Interesting thing about that is that, while it's still common practice, a lot of more left-leaning women did away with taking their husband's name years ago

Holy. Fucking. Shit. That’s bad. That’s oppressively stupid fucking bad.

Hey Americans: Don’t want to be oppressed or live in a fascist state? Immigrate to Canada! We’re hella friendly and open to people’s of all kinds, except MAGAs and Nazis and or maga-nazis

so anyone who changes their name? So like a whole bunch of hollywood. two birds one stone I guess from their view.

Long term, this seems like an effective way to end that custom. What person would go into marriage changing their name when they know this attitude is at play?

Yep, that's in there:

House Republicans passed a bill (which stalled in the Senate) this session to require citizens to have a passport or birth certificate matching their name to vote.

Trans rights are human rights.

In British Columbia, there is no legal requirement to change your last name after marriage, and either spouse can legally use either last name at their leisure without any bureaucratic change. It is a genderless law.

Fuckin A, now I am really appreciating that.

Also to make it harder for people with non western names to vote

My wife and I were talking about this last night. She chose not to change her name when we got married, as she's been down that road before and has no desire to do it again. I'm totally fine with it, she's been able to grow and discover things about herself now that she "wasn't allowed to" in her past marriage, and I love helping her realize that. We also just got our passports the other day - work wants me to get mine and paid for it, so she got hers as well.

i had some ideas about this that i shared recently https://lemmy.world/post/25499276

I had to look that up to see if it was real, and sure enough—but I honestly shouldn’t be surprised. Utterly fucking revolting. On the other hand, the tee website display of a black man wearing it while saluting is pretty hilarious

No, but a lot are.

Wait, where was this? For research purposes for a friend.

They do, but there is an assumption that the relationship between women like that and the wealthy ruling class men they attach themselves to is reciprocal. It, of course, is not.

Take the woman who has a child by Elon Musk. Her and Musk had a romantic getaway and brief liason. She clearly wasn't upset at being pregnant by him. There was an assumption that she'd be cared for. Even if not directly, indirectly. She definitely did not anticipate that she would actually be confined to an apartment 24 hours a day, entirely neglected without any contact from the father of her child. Nor that she'd be left with a child to raise on her own, and no support either financial or emotional or in terms of literal labor.

Call her ignorant and bigoted, both are valid criticisms. But she absolutely was not anticipating this outcome. There is a presumption from conservative/fascist women that they occupy a position of hierarchy over non-fascist/non-conservative women. That by virtue of supporting fascism and patriarchy that fascist men will afford them personhood. They don't believe in any of the assertions of feminism. They instead believe that women who suffer at the hands of men simply deserve it. That all women are judged in some kind of meritocracy, where belief in fascism and support of fascists itself is a determining factor of merit.

They are infuriatingly wrong. But do not be so quick to mischaracterize all conservative/fascist women as knowingly participating in the elimination of their own rights. They are systematically indoctrinated. Inexcusably, I will add. There is no justification for supporting fascists, no justification for supporting violence against women. To combat the ideology they espouse it is crucial to understand not just what they say but what they think.

I read years ago that white republican women will put up with being treated as lesser in their circles in order to treat others as lesser. So they're fine with being spoken down to and shuffled aside so they can feel free to yell at minorities.

They just want to sit at home during the day taking queludes and fucking the mailman.

Making sure that women have very little self-respect is one of the primary functions of American Evangelicalism.

Well surely it was never going to affect them. They are one of the good ones, it's the others that need to be controlled. Why would they ever come for me if I am living a proper God fearing life?

Not a USA citizen, but a Hungarian, but I think some stuff still holds ground in the USA ground: They primarily think these right-wing radicals are just "jolly little conservatives", and not radicals, since they call themselves "conservatives". Contrary to the naive liberal belief, conservatism isn't just a jolly little belief of personally held traditions and healthy patriotism, it's just "fascism lite" which will turn full-out fascism once the checks and balances are removed, or getting extremely frustrated with social change.

And also there's the whole "you will get more conservative as you get older" propaganda, which makes a lot of young people "skip the liberalism and fast-forward to the inevitable", and they either want to remain conservatives because "jolly little belief of personally held traditions and healthy patriotism", or they believe they can't leave. Many also go down the hate road, and they'll get called all kinds of names if they forgive wrongdoers who were part of a minority, and they don't weaponize that wrongdoing into genocidal thoughts. We seriously need to counter this whole "you will get more conservative as you get older" with something. Can someone contact Innuendo Studios? I have an idea for an episode of "The Alt-Right Playbook" if he still haven't made one on this topic.

They unironically think Harris was some kind of monster and that it was all worth it to keep trans out of sports.

There is a real lack of critical thinking, too. I legit know a few Republican women that honestly think that not eating meat will make a man effeminate, and that men that eat meat are more manly.

Obviously due to stupid marketing, but even in their cinematic universe where this is "true" it makes no sense and has no consistency. I've asked them if they think that women that eat meat are going to spontaneously sprout a penis.

Eh not really getting the idea across:

Handmaids Tale, anyone?

Yeah, no. US society is nothing like islamic societies. A faction if the rabid right thinks like this, and the rest of the right may agree to an extent, but they are aware that they can't sell that to the majority. Plus, too many women jusdges.

You're overestimating Republican women...

Ever hear one of those stories about a Military wife who believes Rank is sexual transmitted so she has all the authority of her husband?

That's how they think.

It's not that all women are lower than all men, it's that the wife has the defacto "rank" as the their husband.

Disclaimer:

Obviously I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how they think and why they're ok with this.

You have to think like them, they're "property" so treating a man's wife badly is like going up and pissing on his giant truck, the man will "handle" the offense. And the only way for a woman to gain social ranking is marrying a "powerful" man.

A frightening amount of woman think that's a good system.

I will not enjoy seeing all American women being marginalised. I will, however, enjoy seeing Americans finally exercising their right to protest a fascist government.

If you think the average guy is going to be treated any better I've got a bridge to sell you

But rather than treating their wives better, MAGA men are looking at making it illegal for their wives to leave them. >

Some of them want to be subservient. I've heard some even lament voting before. The Christian brainwashing is pervasive to all parts of life.

Under his eye

Some of them are stupid enough to want it.

They seem to like terrible isms.

Dam I never thought about it

It won't affect republican women because the people running those voting stations won't enforce the rule for "their own".

A passport always contains the current last name. If you took on a new one you have to get a new one issued. That's standard pretty much all over the world.

Edit: Ok, a lot of users wrote that there's no ID card/paper that's common in other parts of the world. In my country a driver license is not enough to prove my identity because it's not an ID card.

Guess you are fucked then.

How ironic, that dehumanizing rhetoric is exactly how we got here.

They're already in peril from cholesterol poisoning. Humans are HORRIBLE for a food source

Religion is, and probably always has been a means of control. That's not to say that it is that at every level, or that it's only that. Religion is designed to bring you comfort and assistance in your times of need, while charging you a fee for the service. The business has to run, the staff and bills have to be paid, the top officers need to be fabulously wealthy. Not all religions are against Women, Children, BIPOC, and LGBTQ, but if you're trying to exert control, they make easy scapegoats. White men make all the money, Let us hold down all these minorities so you can smother them to make yourself feel better, now pay us.

One of my friends attends and assists with a great little church. It's a small, modest community church. The pastor is gay, and drag queens come to read stories occasionally. The place is just kept up with. They're not squeezing 30% out of the community. I'm not one for church, but I approve of what they're doing wholly.

Shorten it to just ARK and it will be even more on the nose with a biblical reference!

Heinlein couldn’t have written it better.

Week? Try day... It's only been a fucking month since he took office.

It’s weird having a branch of my family that has these values and family structure. They’d probably support the idea of the male head of a family having the only vote. And yet, they clearly don’t agree that men should be able to beat their wives, because it happened to one of their daughters and they quickly helped her leave her abusive husband. Good people with very backwards ideas.

I sure would like a wall, but that doesn't seem to be the plan.

If you gloss over the fact that it could be FUCKING VOLUNTARY instead of hate crime. your point is valid for anyone that loves to be forced to do things they don't believe in

Not date them, breed ala handmaids tale

Incels aren't getting shit out of this, this benefits rightwing patriarchs who have abused wives at home.

Incels are alone in a basement or some shit dreaming about being the rightwing patriarch but the rightwing patriarch doesn't likely feel anything but disgust for the incel. They'd purge the incel in a heartbeat if they could.

The government mandated girlfriend will finally come true for Incels.

That's the thing: it isn't. The patriarchy is bad for 95% of men, as well, but a huge chunk of those believe it's good for them because at least they're not a woman.

It's not about what's good for you, it's about what's good for the people in power. And as women increasingly turn away from the Republican party, they're going to want to disenfranchise them.

Conservatives believe hierarchies are natural and unavoidable. If you can push someone else down on the hierarchy then that will put you higher up on the hierarchy then you were before. Shrinking someone else's piece of the pie leaves more pie available for you.

Leftists believe in making a bigger pie.

Do remember that it's only some men that will get that power, not all men. WASP is just the start of the verification process for you. The lie that men like you will get this power is what gets regular joes to buy in without realizing they'll never see those promises materialize.

I've worked enough retail to know that there are plenty of people out there who will gladly jump at the opportunity to be a petty tyrant themselves.

I actually think it's more targeted toward the Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit follower types, and the propaganda does appear to be working on younger men, who are rapidly becoming more "conservative." They're extremely insecure in their masculinity, and think the subservience of women would be affirming.

Of course, it actually just hurts everyone, barring the people that benefit from keeping the working class divided.

They are fine with women being doctors and dentists. They won't have any respect for those professions if they are female dominated, but they are caring roles so they fit into the fundie worldview. Lawyers might make them uncomfortable. They would be fine with women as paralegals, but they would want a man in the courtroom and the boardroom.

None of them should be paid well enough to live truly independently. Can't have women building wealth outside of marriage. It's a process really. Give them a couple generations in power and they might clamp down on employment outside the kitchen or the nursery.

It benefits you, because with almost half the population removed from the paid labor pool, you are more likely to earn more, and get jobs you likely would not have gotten before.

Maybe he'll get fired for being a DEI justice. I honestly don't want whatever would replace him tho.

Once they run out of other others.

You mean so we can watch him vote yes on it?

I don't know who that is, but she needs to make that happen.

No, no, no. She's not one of those women, you see. That's for the other women.

I think it’s adorable that people believe that the capitalists would do away with female labor instead of going back to the good old days of just devaluing it. The myth that women didn’t work outside the home is a fiction. Only the upper classes could afford such a luxury. Poor woman always had to work, often for much less pay.

Realistically, the loss of women's income would lead to a housing crisis as millions of families are unable to pay their mortgage, but it's naive to think housing prices will plummet. Plenty of vulture capital firms and the like will happily scoop those houses up to rent back to us in perpetuity.

A better calibration would be a three day week so one person could work and one person could do household stuff on any particular day and you still have a day to enjoy together.

Sad to see that people thing this is the working class fault and not the rich class fault. Just like everything from recycling plastic global warming, and child marriage

This is creeps like Stephen Miller and the other nazi goons. Trump is an idiot. He'll do anything if you compliment him enough.

Fornicate and figure it out.

Surviving humans, take note:

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Every interior of your world has been crushed and all raw materials-organic and inanimate-are in the process of being mined for the requested elements.

Per the Mined Material Reclamation Act along with subsection 35 of the Indigenous Planetary Species Protection Act, any surviving humans will be given the opportunity to reclaim their lost matter. The Borant Corporation, having been assigned regency over this solar system, is allowed to choose the manner of this reclamation, and they have chosen option 3, also known as the 18-Level World Dungeon. The Borant Corporation retains all rights to broadcast, exploit, and otherwise control all aspects of the World Dungeon and will remain in control as long as they adhere to Syndicate regulations regarding world resource reclamation.

Upon successful completion of level 18 of the World Dungeon, regency of this planet will revert to the successor.

A Syndicate neutral observer AI-myself-has been created and dispatched to this planet to supervise the creation of the World Dungeon and to ensure all the rules and regulations are properly followed.

Please pay careful attention to the following information as it will not be repeated.

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Gross

You could've said you wanted to get blocked directly instead of being a giant cunt.

Well that's the most delusional thing I've heard in a while.

Did you know that women's brains develop faster? Different sources say different years, but it seems to lie between 1 to 5 years on average depending on what age you look at.

Estrogens stimulate development of the frontal lobe. Executive functions, risk-assesment and empathy to name a few tasks it does. Which plays a role in why girls with a developmental disorder, are often able to compensate enough (masking) to keep up with their peers, or even be in the top of the class. Boys on the other hand are less lucky, and their grades are affected more clearly by the same disorders. ASD, AD(H)D, dyslexia/dyscalculi to name a few. Interestingly, hyperlexia is almost only seen in girls. While it is a developmental disorder, it often works in their favor in school settings. Estrogens appear to play a role in language development.

Estrogens also improve memory and learning. It's why women have a better memory than men on average, and why they are outperforming men academically on average. Yes, women will remember everything you said to them. For good and bad purposes.

Estrogens also play a role in social development. Which is why girls often prefer playing with toys that have a face on it, and integrate social feedback more often. Part of the reason girls are held to higher standards, which results in girls working harder in school, and suffering more often from performance/achievement related stress.

If anyone has a child's brain at 30, it's you mate.