Idaho is starting a registry for at-risk men with erections, to prevent impure thoughts. You need to send a picture of your dick, where it will be validated by an evangelical priest.
What I hate most is that that would be an effective tactic for right wing extremist groups. Keeping men sexually frustrated and insecure in their masculinity is a powerful tool for them.
Actually come to think of it, I really wouldn't be surprised if there were a variety of political themed pro dommes these days. It seems like it would be lucrative
The whole porn ban thing is probably my all-time favorite example of conservatives voting against themselves.
Meanwhile, in California, I can watch all the porn I want without registering myself in a database and walk down the street to the weed store. And the women in my life still have rights over their own bodies.
So I guess Democrats are actually the party of freedom.
California is bad for voting to keep prison slavery and refusing to solve the housing crisis with a council housing system much like the UK used to have.
I don't think the above commenter is saying GOP isn't worse, but having lived there for a few years and since moved away, it's taxed quite a bit more than other states. You definitely get a lot more out of it, so it's just that tradeoff. Either you pay little taxes and have to pay separately for private things to do everything yourself (good for rich people, bad for everyone else), or you pay more taxes but have way more public services.
This is pretense to intrude on other things and more importantly remove the ability to browse pornography anonymously, which is dangerous. I would never use an account to browse a porn site because why would I ever want that data linked back to me? Look at the government right now. You watch a gay or trans porn video and in a few years that could be grounds for never being able to have certain types of jobs or worse, being deemed a “miscreant”
If this was truly about protecting children they would encourage open dialogue on sex in homes and increase inclusive sex education. This is evidence based. It would still be necessary even with this nonsense because obviously vpns exist, as well as amateur run sites, sites run from outside of the USA, torrents, etc that don’t give a shit about us laws requiring age verification and will show all kinds of obscenely hardcore videos
ChatGPT will be drawing conclusions from the data like "Subject is likely a tipthumbing twister (86.436% confidence) with content dependent high frequency intervals (94.738% confidence)"
It'll analyze things like minor mouse movements, microphone audio, and use that wifi radar trick.
Can you imagine, training rec algos for porn sites on intensity of movement and facial expressions...
Edit: if this ever happens (and I'm 85% convinced it will in some way), I'll just start crankin' to financial spreadsheets and medication specs, keep'em guessing.
The third party has a very secure agreement to very securely sell data to 572 advertising partners and that is very securely being bought by the FBI.
Not that outlandish, since the FBI and the US police already buys advertising data streams to get access to data they are prohibited to collect directly.
It's so bad there are already middlemen who buy data and compile it into products for law enforcement.
You forgot to mention that of course 253 of the 572 advertising partners consider their use to be a 'legitimate interest' under privacy legislation despite being nothing even close.
I don't want any administration to be able to. They should absolutely be able to buy it so long as they have a warrant for that instance of that individual or if the individual agrees to cooperate in that instance without coercion.
It's impossible to ban all VPNs. And even if they somehow do it, you can get a VPS(virtual private server) from one of the cloud providers (AWS, GCP, Azure etc.) and host your own vpn service (OpenVPN, Algo, Vultr). You don't need to know a lot about it, there are step-by-step guides for it.
Companies have been compiling lists of which IP blocks are consumer Internet and which are cloud services.
That's why some VPNs are now selling home internet IP VPNs.
They'll ultimately just have to cut off the US Internet from the rest of the world, right? As long as we can access other countries with more freedom, we can enjoy that level of freedom on the Internet. Or am I not understanding how the Internet works (entirely possible)?
" And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material." - Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens
He wasn't necessarily wrong, he was just an asshole. The context for the meme was a speech he gave in vehement opposition to a proposed bill amendment which would have codified net neutrality principles into law. The concept he was blundering through explaining was basically just an eli5 version of limited bandwidth. I send this message (or, in his parlance, this internet) from my phone to Lemmy. It travels through a series of tubes to get there. If the tubes are clogged with traffic, my message might have to get in line. And that's not fair to people who have the money to not be treated like a poor.
Fun fact, Senator Stevens was the longest serving senator to lose a bid for reelection, largely due the fact that he was embroiled in a big corruption scandal at the time. The conviction ended up being vacated due to prosecutorial misconduct though, and I didn't care to dive any deeper, but I'm inclined to believe he was a grifter. Rest in piss.
I think he was trying to download something, it was taking time, and he thought the requested files are all in order in "the tubes".
He had to wait for the other files to be delivered before his arrived.
I mean as far as metaphors go, it's really not that bad. It's visual and immediately understandable, and at least connected to the underlying thing it's describing (network traffic really does flow down a series of wries/cables that are functionally "tubes" of electrons or photons). Hell, people have been likening an internet connection to a "pipe" since at least the 90s (it was already a thing when I first got internet access in '95).
Sure the guy who said it was a dickbag, but I can think of a dozen worse analogies offhand.
The people pushing these laws are hoping it will have the "California Effect."
Like when California says "Cars need to meet X emissions standards" so far makers just make cars everywhere meet those standards.
They are hoping that by making age verification a thing in a few states, it will become a thing everywhere.
This fails to realize that one, it's easy to geofence a state online (VPNs being anwork around). And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations. It only makes the cars and world better if they all meet the better emissions standards. Blocking porn like this, is a net negative.
Also, on the subject of kids accessing porn. They are going to do it anyway, anyone thinking otherwise is oblivious to the world, and two, it's not up to the state to nanny this shit, it's up to the parents.
I agree with all of that. What I don't agree with is blaming the entirety of the US for this policy. This is one dumbass state, doing a dumbass thing. The UK passed a similar law and I'd be just as wrong if I shit talked the rest of Europe for it.
While Pornhub is not blocked in Louisiana, it is blocked in these 17 states, a Pornhub representative confirmed to Mashable:
Alabama
Arkansas
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Mississippi
Montana
Nebraska
North Carolina
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
In Louisiana, where users must submit ID to view Pornhub, the site has seen traffic decline by around 80 per cent, Aylo (Pornhub's parent company) told Mashable.
This is not just "Oh Florida is just being quirky again" this is systematic.
The UK vs EU and the states vs the USA is not apples to apples. As I understand it though, we're actually approaching 20 US states requiring such verification. Iowa is trying to pass something similar. This is a trend across the country, which is why I generalized the USA.
And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations.
No, companies generally comply with California laws because California is a massive market. Companies don't, on the whole, operate on what is mostly positive for society according to a specific flavor of progressive.
Companies operate on what is most profitable, and selling to California is usually good for profits, while running a separate production line just for California usually isn't worth it. So if the regulations aren't too expensive to meet, they'll just switch the whole production over to meet California law because that minimizes costs and maximizes sales. The same kind of thing also happens with Texas, for much the same reason - especially with textbooks.
That's what you voted for. You want republican rule taking away your freedoms. Well now you Floridains have what you wanted and voted for. Don't be mad you made your bed and dont like the sheets.
Given how close most elections are and the low turnout, I would say at least 40% of voters and 50% of the population didn't vote for this without even having to look at the election results.
There is so much voter suppression in the US. I didn't realize some of the more subtle ways it was suppressed until I moved to a state that has way less of it.
The US needs to end voter suppression. There are several ways of doing this but the top items: Mandate all election days (even those just at the state level) be paid holidays, automatically register all citizens to vote as soon as they turn 18, and make voting compulsory (not with punitive measures)
In Texas, the following is routine suppression other than the common nationwide suppression:
-People are often purged from voter registration even if they're an active voter and voted in the last election. If you don't check your registration months before the election, you'll think you're fine because you just voted but may show up and be told you're no longer registered.
-Voting registration is cut off 30 days before the election. This is on the high end of the cutoff and further increases chances you get purged, don't realize it in time, and then can't re-register.
-Voting registration is mail in only. You have to physically print off the form and mail it in. This takes substantially more time when the post office is no longer a common trip for most people. It could easily be an online form like it is in many states.
-Rotating polling locations and hours for early voting. If you try to vote early on a day off for instance, you may get to the polling location and realize it's only open on certain days of the week while other locations are open the full week or it has arbitrarily reduced hours on certain days. Other locations may then be much farther from that location.
-Polling locations far way from you. You may have to drive 30 minutes to 1 hour away to vote even in a city or if you don't have a car, public transit may take prohibitively long (2+ hours one way) to get to the polling location.
-Attacking mail in ballots as fraudulent and often throwing them out. Based on 2022 data, 6-20% are thrown out depending on the county.
There are so many more little things which all add up to the purpose of preventing people from voting. No wonder people don't vote or attempt to vote, can't, get discouraged or don't have more time off to vote, and give up.
Glad where I live you just have to show up with an ID at the location assigned based on your permanent residency. Even passport is okay if ID is lost or expires.
If you can't, you can request a voter card that allows you to vote anywhere in the country. If you can't vote physically, you can do mail-in.
While voting is physical, you can request voter card via e-residency login. You can also call your local voting committee and request they come to your house directly if you are disabled, elderly, or unable to come.
Expanding on this, a lot of this is very consistent in the amount by which it suppresses voters, and thus, much like gerrymandering, can be designed around or intentionally enacted. I mean, that's sort of an obvious thing, but I think it's still important to take note of and point out, much like gerrymandering and every other form of voter suppression, because it makes it all the more obvious that we do not live in a democracy, even by a little bit.
I would love to agree here, but I live in an area where they do such a piss-poor job of announcing when people need to vote, that even I have a hard time knowing all of the things and when they happen. I signed up for email/text alerts and they only go out a few days before voting day. For some people, that is not enough time to plan to be off and be at the polling place.
You know damn well not all Floridians voted for this shit. This is the same kind of out-group bullshit red hat shit bags do. You’re just being intentionally divisive.
Edit: I knew commenting was going to ruin my morning. You guys act like compassion is part of your moral code but when the “right” people are getting hurt you cheer it. It’s grossly hypocritical. This is people having their rights trampled on and you look down your nose at them telling them they deserve it.
Yea that’s fair. We are an embarrassment to the world right now but for us to fix it we need to be working together instead of carving ourselves up into more little tribes.
Endlessly being told "you don't understand" by commenters who only use tv-friendly and repeatable povs and barely try to mask their hate towards their fellow citizens gets awful tiring huh? I left R-town to get away from the bloodlust but .world be too damn infested wit reddit 2.0 types fr
I didn’t vote for it, I didn’t want it, and just like the country I’m stuck with it. It’s acceptable to be an American and hate Trump and what he’s doing without being told you deserve it, but it’s not the same thing when it comes to Florida for some reason.
It must be real inconvenient to have to turn on a VPN, it's like a whole button that they have to click, Libs totally owned. Meanwhile the actual weird idiots that voted for this can barely operate a mouse and so they actually do have to suffer the consequences of their own decisions.
Then there’s “normal” websites that use cloudflare and blocks vpn access for no good reason (looking at you Home Depot and Lowe’s), or worse yet, they redirect you to a country-specific website based on the ip location.
That’s why they have the ability to lookup and select a store. I actually opened a help desk ticket with Home Depot and they did eventually fix it so vpn is allowed. Lowe’s I kinda just gave up by that point.
In my teens I lived in Brockville Ontario near Ogdensburg New York and watched a lot of US channels. The Star Spangled Banner came on at the beginning of the broadcast day for some channels.
For many years, I thought the first line was "Jose can you see"
When I was a kid I thought the "for which it stands" in the national anthem was in reference to a country called "witchistan", which was presumably full of witches.
That sounds like a chicken and egg problem. How is the cum getting on the ID before accessing the porn? If you use another means, surely you will no longer be in the mood for accessing a porn site...
Depends on how much other media you consume. If you're forced to get a VPN anyway I bet you're more likely to start looking into pirating everything else, too
If your browser is properly configured, it'll recognize a MITM attack, so you'll know if your traffic is properly encrypted because it checks root certs against a known good set. The only concern is domain name leakage (both from DNS and SNI), but that's a privacy thing, not a security thing. DoH fixes the DNS issue, so consider that for a low hanging fruit privacy win.
If you're accessing things outside a browser... don't do that on public WiFi unless you can confirm it verifies certificates.
I wonder if that'll end up being true. I'd guess these constituents represent voters that watch porn at least as much on average as anyone else. I'm going to go ahead and guess above average. They might get tired of this and push for change. But I'm also admittedly less educated on how our political system works than I should be and might be overestimating how much influence Florida Man has because he's disgruntled at having to jump through hurdles to fap.
The problem is that it's political suicide to be the "pro sex, pro smut" politician. Consistently the counters to anti sexual freedom laws have come from the courts. By saying "age verification on porn has gone too far," a politician more or less accepts that their entire campaign is going to be about this. And when that happens the right has the advantage because they have the ability to be short and quippy as they misrepresent you and play to emotions.
This is the same reason japan still blurs genitals. Someone decades ago got that law passed and now no one is gonna campaign on changing it. Theoretically it should be easier to do in a parliamentary system (a few years back there was a single member of congress elected from the "no more tv taxes" party), but even still it'd be tough. In the states it has zero chance.
Yeah, and its why we never repealed the Comstock laws. Its also why unconstitutional laws should be automatically stricken from the books, not merely deemed unenforcable
Conservatives jerk off to porn all the time. This isn't even strictly conservative per-say, its just generic American prudishness. 30 years ago, you'd have Tipper Gore and Newt Gingrich coming together to restrict the sale of rap music CDs and wrestling themed video games to anyone under the age of 13, on similar grounds.
Demanding everyone have an ID present any time they want to do anything is a throw-back to the 90s liberal fixation on "accountability" that was a proxy for mass surveillance.
Fortunately, this is easy to work around, just get a VPN hosted in a didn't different state or country.
We have something similar here in Utah, so I have a WiFi network that is always connected to a VPN in a neighboring state. If something isn't accessible, I just swap WiFi networks and I'm good.
The porn is just the first place they start, their plan is to label anything lgbt as pornographic and require a similar process to view basic educational content. This is how they get around the 1st amendment.
Oh yeah I do see the slippery slope of this whole deal, the only thing that irked me was the wording of this comment as if xhamster is a basic human freedom, but I find that a little odd since xhamster and pornhub steal from sex workers to provide it "for free" y'know.
But with the banning of books and trans people unable to get in or out of the country.... It is fucked up and scary.
You're obviously baiting arguments, but I'll take the bait because you deserve to get put in your place.
In case you missed the last month of US politics, not all women have uteruses, and not all men have testicles. Intersex people exist and they deserve human rights.
There's a correlation between people who swallow stupid right wing talking points and people who were unsuccessful educationally. It may be unproductive to take your rhetorical question literally and attempt to provide factual information in response.
Not sure, but it's very ironic coming from "the land of the free". Every day there is an american coming out in the Internet with the classic "you don't have freedom of speech", and then they have to provide a driving licence for a quickie
Honestly, these laws are just gonna hurt old men in Republican states. Like, I grew up with piracy, torrents, and old school forums. These educated me on computers enough that I made a career out of it. And most of that computer knowledge was gained because I wanted to see big tittied women sit on each other's faces. These laws don't stop horny teens from accessing porn. It just makes them better at it.
And this is definitely not one of the cases of "oh it'll reduce numbers overall though". No the fuck it won't. It's porn. They're gonna access it. Literally every YouTuber they watch is sponsored by a VPN.
The only healthy thing to do is actually talking to your kids about porn. Educating them on its potential harms. But Republicans don't ever want to talk to their kids. Ironically, these "drain the swamp" people just want daddy government to "prevent" their kids from accessing it. Which these laws don't do.
Yep. If these red states actually cared about kids they'd care about proper sex education. But I think this stuff just proves that Republicans are afraid of sex. They had an awkward conversation about it with their dad once and have been leaving their wives unsatisfied for 30 years since. They have no idea what to do if their kid actually came home from school and asked them what the difference between a clitoris and a vagina was. They are absolutely afraid of the female body and it's why they try to control it so much.
Sorry. A bit of a rant. If this was a different conversation I'd have plenty to criticize about the sex industry too. But these conservatives don't have enough brain cells to actually talk about the problems with it. So we have old men making laws that do nothing but make them feel better. Or it's projection for their own porn addiction.
Honestly, these laws are just gonna hurt old men in Republican states.
You know I think a lot more of their politics and general life outlook makes more sense when you understand that probably a lot of these super old guys are not computer literate enough to look up their niche fetishistic porn interests, and are probably still consuming porn the old fashioned way, which is becoming increasingly nonexistent even though it's still something that actually exists. Plus the propagation of morally puritanical values means that if they kept any of that material around at all, they'd be hypocrites, so they can't have that. Probably a lot of these dudes are walking around super pent up and sexually frustrated, I'd bet.
We need to introduce local community college and library courses to teach these elderly boomers how to goon
I think your theory is partially correct. But I think it's just as likely they are gooners themselves. I feel like porn addiction (gooning) is more prolific which people that have reactionary beliefs. My theory is that their political leanings are a counter to their actual actions. I don't think the gooner needs "material" to goon to. I think in it's absence it will happen through a Macy's magazine etc.
It's similar almost to priest being the most common pedos. I think these types of conservative/reactionary ideologies just create sexual suppression that manifest in addictive behavior. This is not to say that all conservatives are pedos. But to say that those beliefs combined with sexual suppression often creat these extremes. Whether it be addiction to gooning (outside of their access to goon material) or otherwise.
Idk. I just think that it's an unhealthy relationship with sexuality that any generation can fall pray to. But it's happens more often based on the circumstances of each individual/generation. And it's why it seems to be so extreme in both boomers and recent generations. They both are experiencing extreme economic material conditions/contradictions.
It’s similar almost to priest being the most common pedos.
Pedos tend to aggregate around any job that will give them trusted or unrestricted access to children. The suppression you're talking about in this case isn't just from religion, but permeates all of society. Like, they can't even hypothetically leave the church and move somewhere more liberal where their desire for kid fucking isn't being suppressed. At least not until the weird libertarian crypto-bros who oppose age of consent manage to create such a place.
No because there are a million different websites that just don't follow these rules. All this does is dissuade people who are both clueless about where to find porn and not particularly determined.
It also won't make a difference when basically every major social media website is a softcore porn website. I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.
I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.
They did. Under the hashtag ThotAudit, after one thotfluencer said something that could be interpreted as her not paying taxes on the money she was making showing her bits online.
I remember that, but I'm like 95 percent sure that was a different faction of conservatives. The current porn bans are being spearheaded by evangelical Christians, while ThotAudit was originally a 4Chan thing.
Nowadays, there's not much to learn. For user-friendly OSes, just install the VPN app, sign in like any other service, and, at a minimum, hit "go". Most people will want to scroll through a list of locations of where they want to appear to be, choose a location, then hit "go".
Yup, my red state pulled this nonsense, so I made a WiFi network that connects to a VPN for you in a less stupid state. If I get blocked somewhere, I just change WiFi networks.
Whenever someone says, "who cares, proton VPN is free," I get a bit sadder. If Proton ever drops the free tier, honestly? I'll understand. Because God knows, seeing people who can't be fucked to give a damn about open access to information using costly infrastructure to watch their shitty porn, I might've just cut it already.
Fucking Jesus. They did say they wanted to ban porn and this is only the first step. This will systematically destroy porn and livelihoods. Who in their right minds would upload a picture of their horny selves next to their licence to some likely unreliable site? Lower the traffic and you kill the shit out of sex work. Evil motherfuckers, man.
I think it's uncontroversial to say that porn is bad for children, and I would say that social media is bad for children as well. I think as one matures and becomes an adult both become less bad, less fraught, but the difference between the two of Is that one with one of them you sometimes want to be anonymous, and the other one you almost always want to be anonymous.
I mean I'm against requiring affirmative identity verification online anyway, even as a solution to keeping children away from things that are unhealthy for them. You can't sacrifice the freedom of adults on the altar of protecting children.
The privacy and security issues of this are pretty obvious.
However I do think that the easy accessibility and ubiquity of porn and highly sexualized content for children and tweens is a serious problem that people who make fun of porn restriction efforts fail to address or even acknowledge.
Certainly a lot of the responsibility falls on guardians, but it's hard to moderate when you're up against the giant machines of social media. They need help to limit exposure. And this isn't some prudish "oh no protect the children from the titty and the peen" attitude. I don't think most people feel comfortable with the idea of 10-year olds sharing videos of aggressive gang banging or throat fucking like it's a normal thing. And obviously this isn't exclusive to porn. Plenty of explicit and gruesomely violent content out there to be worried about. But the internet footprint of porn dwarfs everything else put together.
Why is it everyone's problem that parents can't figure out that their kids shouldn't have unlimited unrestricted access to the internet? They know not to let their children loose on the Las Vegas strip, why can't they apply the same logic to the internet? I don't agree with 10 year olds looking at porn even slightly but also it's not my problem. I'm tired of the world making everything child friendly. I don't have kids for a reason and if I want to watch Human Centipede 1-4 while blasting hardcore dwarf deepthroat gangbang porn then that's my prerogative.
Because we live in a society and things that impact society impact you, as a member of society. It's the same reason why we have age restrictions for alcohol, porn stores, and cigarettes. It's also why we have laws about seatbelts, labour, and certain non-toxic but excessively unhealthy ingredients. Even if you take giving a shit about others out of the equation, the self-interested view knows that what happens to others' kids now can and do become your individual problem down the road.
Enforcing age restriction is not a ban. I think as an adult it's entirely your perogative to watch your dwarf porn. However your framing of "making everything kid friendly" is a bit misleading and disingenuous. It's quite the same as complaining everyone is always trying to make things kid friendly because they check your ID at the liquor store. Would it be more convenient if you could just grab and go? Sure. But the social harm without it clearly outweighs the inconvenience.
The fickle problem with the internet porn is still privacy and data security, but that's a separate issue.
Certainly a lot of the responsibility falls on guardians, but it’s hard to moderate when you’re up against the giant machines of social media.
It's really not. Establish an open and trusting relationship with your kids.
Porn will be accessible without ID regardless, because plenty of sites operate outside the neutron jurisdiction of the US. All this does is punish responsible sites and push kids onto sketchier websites.
The only real solution here is responsible parenting. If you're not going to be a responsible parent, don't have kids.
Not every kid has the privilege of being born to parents who give a shit or are even in their lives for one reason or another.
Still my original point was not about what the actual good pragmatic solutions are to reducing accessibility (a spectrum from can't avoid it to mildly inconvenient to highly inaccessible to banned). It was about recognizing the problem at all.
Because, apparently gay porn (with men) or just men in porn at all doesn't exist. I understand that some porn producers can be exploitative, especially to women, but that doesn't mean the whole industry is bad and needs to be blocked.
Americans now need a wanking license.
yew got a lie-sense for that boner?
What accent was that supposed to be?
Bri'ish?
Oxford Creole
Wagwan old boy
Raaaahssclaart
Slack Jaw Southern, surely
Idaho is starting a registry for at-risk men with erections, to prevent impure thoughts. You need to send a picture of your dick, where it will be validated by an evangelical priest.
Life begins at erection.
Good boy, you don't come until Trump tells you to.
Trump branded chastity cages.
What I hate most is that that would be an effective tactic for right wing extremist groups. Keeping men sexually frustrated and insecure in their masculinity is a powerful tool for them.
Actually come to think of it, I really wouldn't be surprised if there were a variety of political themed pro dommes these days. It seems like it would be lucrative
My mind read that as "it seems like it would be lubricative" and it still made sense.
Idk I'd be bone dry working that job
That is revolting
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Oh shitting hell lads, it's Boris The Bouncer Bot!
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Bu....bu....but I thought the Republicans were the party of freedom..........
Aaaand they all immediately have one. Like they always did.
The whole porn ban thing is probably my all-time favorite example of conservatives voting against themselves.
Meanwhile, in California, I can watch all the porn I want without registering myself in a database and walk down the street to the weed store. And the women in my life still have rights over their own bodies.
So I guess Democrats are actually the party of freedom.
B- b- but, California b-b-bad! 🥺 Don't you see how oppressed you are? You're really oppressed out there. 🥺
California is bad for voting to keep prison slavery and refusing to solve the housing crisis with a council housing system much like the UK used to have.
Perfection is the ultimate enemy of good. I'd rather be in a place like California than some red state where I have to upload my ID to look at boobs.
Council housing? You mean social security houses that get supplied to you if you earn almoat nothing?
The Netherlands has that to this day, but that doesn’t solve the issue
who would've guessed
Yeah but could you imagine voting for them?
What a DUMB SOCIALIST Comment! Freedom is the Government FORCING you Into a Porn Database while OUTLAWING Plants!
One of my fave porn vids got affected though.
— a Nord
It’s all relative. Lots of personal freedom, taxed like a mother fucker.
As it should be honestly but there are many people that don’t see it that way and view taxation as a form of oppression.
I don't think the above commenter is saying GOP isn't worse, but having lived there for a few years and since moved away, it's taxed quite a bit more than other states. You definitely get a lot more out of it, so it's just that tradeoff. Either you pay little taxes and have to pay separately for private things to do everything yourself (good for rich people, bad for everyone else), or you pay more taxes but have way more public services.
Notice how the things you're talking about are exaggerations and the comment above is not.
This comment was dumb but should NOT HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
Lol, comment about freedom get removed by mod
Freedom ain't free.
This is pretense to intrude on other things and more importantly remove the ability to browse pornography anonymously, which is dangerous. I would never use an account to browse a porn site because why would I ever want that data linked back to me? Look at the government right now. You watch a gay or trans porn video and in a few years that could be grounds for never being able to have certain types of jobs or worse, being deemed a “miscreant”
If this was truly about protecting children they would encourage open dialogue on sex in homes and increase inclusive sex education. This is evidence based. It would still be necessary even with this nonsense because obviously vpns exist, as well as amateur run sites, sites run from outside of the USA, torrents, etc that don’t give a shit about us laws requiring age verification and will show all kinds of obscenely hardcore videos
KOSA would require age verification for these sites and social networking. Nationally.
Luckily the bill appears to be dead
Soon they’ll start recording you jerking it to cross reference with previous sessions as identity confirmation.
Well, they know what parts of what videos you watch, your favorite keywords, time/days patterns, location, I'd say they can train AI on that data
ChatGPT will be drawing conclusions from the data like "Subject is likely a tipthumbing twister (86.436% confidence) with content dependent high frequency intervals (94.738% confidence)"
It'll analyze things like minor mouse movements, microphone audio, and use that wifi radar trick.
Can you imagine, training rec algos for porn sites on intensity of movement and facial expressions...
Edit: if this ever happens (and I'm 85% convinced it will in some way), I'll just start crankin' to financial spreadsheets and medication specs, keep'em guessing.
I would skip to when they start telling you about the side effects. So hot.
"Do not operate heavy machinery 4-6 hours after administering a dose" - starts grunting
Biometric Orgasm face photo lol
"Your stroke signature does not match our records"
"Verification is carried out by 3rd party". Totally no potential to misuse of collected data.
Why no, they specifically mentioned it being highly secure
"Trust us, bro."
See the lock icon near the URL? It says you're secure so don't worry bro.
Well at least it's not going to the federal government so it should be somewhat safe
The third party has a very secure agreement to very securely sell data to 572 advertising partners and that is very securely being bought by the FBI.
Not that outlandish, since the FBI and the US police already buys advertising data streams to get access to data they are prohibited to collect directly.
It's so bad there are already middlemen who buy data and compile it into products for law enforcement.
You forgot to mention that of course 253 of the 572 advertising partners consider their use to be a 'legitimate interest' under privacy legislation despite being nothing even close.
Privacy legislation? That sounds unconstitutional
INB4 SCOTUS rules Canada's existence unconstitutional since it's not mentioned in the original text anywhere
Isn't 'Legitimate interest' a EU thing?
If it was last administration I'd say it's just slightly annoying that our day was going to the federal government. But it's admin....maybe not
I don't want any administration to be able to. They should absolutely be able to buy it so long as they have a warrant for that instance of that individual or if the individual agrees to cooperate in that instance without coercion.
Related:
Florida experiences a huge 1,150% surge in VPN use as Pornhub blocks access in response to age-verification law
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/vpn/florida-experiences-a-huge-1-150-percent-surge-in-vpn-use-as-pornhub-blocks-access-in-response-to-age-verification-law
I am really curious how long it will take them to ban VPNs.
It's impossible to ban all VPNs. And even if they somehow do it, you can get a VPS(virtual private server) from one of the cloud providers (AWS, GCP, Azure etc.) and host your own vpn service (OpenVPN, Algo, Vultr). You don't need to know a lot about it, there are step-by-step guides for it.
Just block every AS that belongs to a hoster.
Yup, I have my own VPS hosted in Oregon, so if worst comes to worst, I can route my traffic through there.
Companies have been compiling lists of which IP blocks are consumer Internet and which are cloud services. That's why some VPNs are now selling home internet IP VPNs.
They'll ultimately just have to cut off the US Internet from the rest of the world, right? As long as we can access other countries with more freedom, we can enjoy that level of freedom on the Internet. Or am I not understanding how the Internet works (entirely possible)?
If it makes you feel any better, you can rest assured that Capitol Hill doesn't know how the Internet works either.
" And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material." - Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens
To be fair, at this late date, the tubes analogy isn't that bad. I forget what point he was trying to make though.
He wasn't necessarily wrong, he was just an asshole. The context for the meme was a speech he gave in vehement opposition to a proposed bill amendment which would have codified net neutrality principles into law. The concept he was blundering through explaining was basically just an eli5 version of limited bandwidth. I send this message (or, in his parlance, this internet) from my phone to Lemmy. It travels through a series of tubes to get there. If the tubes are clogged with traffic, my message might have to get in line. And that's not fair to people who have the money to not be treated like a poor.
Fun fact, Senator Stevens was the longest serving senator to lose a bid for reelection, largely due the fact that he was embroiled in a big corruption scandal at the time. The conviction ended up being vacated due to prosecutorial misconduct though, and I didn't care to dive any deeper, but I'm inclined to believe he was a grifter. Rest in piss.
All valid points. Except for the one about not having to be treated like you're poor, but I think that one was made in jest.
I think he was trying to download something, it was taking time, and he thought the requested files are all in order in "the tubes". He had to wait for the other files to be delivered before his arrived.
...or something.
I mean as far as metaphors go, it's really not that bad. It's visual and immediately understandable, and at least connected to the underlying thing it's describing (network traffic really does flow down a series of wries/cables that are functionally "tubes" of electrons or photons). Hell, people have been likening an internet connection to a "pipe" since at least the 90s (it was already a thing when I first got internet access in '95).
Sure the guy who said it was a dickbag, but I can think of a dozen worse analogies offhand.
They'll most likely try to pull off a setup similar to China.
What you're not understanding is that Florida is just a single state out of 50
The people pushing these laws are hoping it will have the "California Effect."
Like when California says "Cars need to meet X emissions standards" so far makers just make cars everywhere meet those standards.
They are hoping that by making age verification a thing in a few states, it will become a thing everywhere.
This fails to realize that one, it's easy to geofence a state online (VPNs being anwork around). And Two, companies generally comply with California laws because, on the whole, California passes mostly positive limitations. It only makes the cars and world better if they all meet the better emissions standards. Blocking porn like this, is a net negative.
Also, on the subject of kids accessing porn. They are going to do it anyway, anyone thinking otherwise is oblivious to the world, and two, it's not up to the state to nanny this shit, it's up to the parents.
I agree with all of that. What I don't agree with is blaming the entirety of the US for this policy. This is one dumbass state, doing a dumbass thing. The UK passed a similar law and I'd be just as wrong if I shit talked the rest of Europe for it.
As of January 2025:
This is not just "Oh Florida is just being quirky again" this is systematic.
The UK vs EU and the states vs the USA is not apples to apples. As I understand it though, we're actually approaching 20 US states requiring such verification. Iowa is trying to pass something similar. This is a trend across the country, which is why I generalized the USA.
https://www.ipvanish.com/blog/us-age-verification-laws/
When it comes to emissions laws, car co usually build a range just for California. It's not hard to slate a few days just for a different exhaust.
No, companies generally comply with California laws because California is a massive market. Companies don't, on the whole, operate on what is mostly positive for society according to a specific flavor of progressive.
Companies operate on what is most profitable, and selling to California is usually good for profits, while running a separate production line just for California usually isn't worth it. So if the regulations aren't too expensive to meet, they'll just switch the whole production over to meet California law because that minimizes costs and maximizes sales. The same kind of thing also happens with Texas, for much the same reason - especially with textbooks.
Some US states already have more restrictive abortion laws than Saudi Arabia, so why not Internet laws too.
Every YouTuber sponsored by nordvpn: 🤑🤑🤑
Me: This is America.
Pornhub: This content is not available in your state due to ID verification legislation.
My VPN: This is Germany.
What ?
you need to login to watch youtube in US ?
Didn't knew that
Eh, no need for crazy latency, just get one in Colorado or something nearby.
This is how we lose access to personal encryption
What do you mean?
They were unintentionally demonstrating their lack of intelligence.
What do YOU mean?
That's what you voted for. You want republican rule taking away your freedoms. Well now you Floridains have what you wanted and voted for. Don't be mad you made your bed and dont like the sheets.
Given how close most elections are and the low turnout, I would say at least 40% of voters and 50% of the population didn't vote for this without even having to look at the election results.
In fact, 77% of the USA population did not vote for this.
How many voted for something else?
Not enough.
Then we should pass electoral reform in each of our states so these people have representation in the voting booth.
By US standards it was a pretty high turnout.
However, more people didn't vote than voted for Trump.
...and as many people voted for Trump in 2024 as voted for Trump in 2020, while Harris didn't have the turnout Biden did.
Not voting is the same as voting for whichever party wins.
There is so much voter suppression in the US. I didn't realize some of the more subtle ways it was suppressed until I moved to a state that has way less of it.
The US needs to end voter suppression. There are several ways of doing this but the top items: Mandate all election days (even those just at the state level) be paid holidays, automatically register all citizens to vote as soon as they turn 18, and make voting compulsory (not with punitive measures)
In Texas, the following is routine suppression other than the common nationwide suppression:
-People are often purged from voter registration even if they're an active voter and voted in the last election. If you don't check your registration months before the election, you'll think you're fine because you just voted but may show up and be told you're no longer registered.
-Voting registration is cut off 30 days before the election. This is on the high end of the cutoff and further increases chances you get purged, don't realize it in time, and then can't re-register.
-Voting registration is mail in only. You have to physically print off the form and mail it in. This takes substantially more time when the post office is no longer a common trip for most people. It could easily be an online form like it is in many states.
-Rotating polling locations and hours for early voting. If you try to vote early on a day off for instance, you may get to the polling location and realize it's only open on certain days of the week while other locations are open the full week or it has arbitrarily reduced hours on certain days. Other locations may then be much farther from that location.
-Polling locations far way from you. You may have to drive 30 minutes to 1 hour away to vote even in a city or if you don't have a car, public transit may take prohibitively long (2+ hours one way) to get to the polling location.
-Attacking mail in ballots as fraudulent and often throwing them out. Based on 2022 data, 6-20% are thrown out depending on the county.
There are so many more little things which all add up to the purpose of preventing people from voting. No wonder people don't vote or attempt to vote, can't, get discouraged or don't have more time off to vote, and give up.
Edit: Formatting
Holy shit, that's brutal.
Glad where I live you just have to show up with an ID at the location assigned based on your permanent residency. Even passport is okay if ID is lost or expires.
If you can't, you can request a voter card that allows you to vote anywhere in the country. If you can't vote physically, you can do mail-in.
While voting is physical, you can request voter card via e-residency login. You can also call your local voting committee and request they come to your house directly if you are disabled, elderly, or unable to come.
Expanding on this, a lot of this is very consistent in the amount by which it suppresses voters, and thus, much like gerrymandering, can be designed around or intentionally enacted. I mean, that's sort of an obvious thing, but I think it's still important to take note of and point out, much like gerrymandering and every other form of voter suppression, because it makes it all the more obvious that we do not live in a democracy, even by a little bit.
I would love to agree here, but I live in an area where they do such a piss-poor job of announcing when people need to vote, that even I have a hard time knowing all of the things and when they happen. I signed up for email/text alerts and they only go out a few days before voting day. For some people, that is not enough time to plan to be off and be at the polling place.
The system is broken.
The system is not broken, it is working exactly as intended
You know damn well not all Floridians voted for this shit. This is the same kind of out-group bullshit red hat shit bags do. You’re just being intentionally divisive.
I'm sorry but here is a prime example of the Republican party doing dishonest election tactics in Florida and the public masses falling for it. If you don't have enough common sense and fall for such tactics, who is to blame then? https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2020/12/02/the-name-is-the-same-but-theyre-different-florida-candidates-column/
Most people assume politicians don’t lie. I know it’s absurd to think about but even people of middling intelligence still deserve rights.
They do, but how many times do you need to stop someone from touching a hot stove before you let them learn their lesson the hard way?
We shouldn’t be willing to let the house burn down to teach someone a lesson.
Nothing can be done for years. Till the next election. We are just a long for the ride able to carry out the first amendment right at the very least.
Never trust a salesman, and a politician is just a salesman selling that he should be in charge of you.
I thought everyone heard the saying as a child to not trust lawyers, politicians, and weathermen because they all lie.
Majority of voters did, and keep on doing it.
So all Americans deserve the bullshit?
Edit: I knew commenting was going to ruin my morning. You guys act like compassion is part of your moral code but when the “right” people are getting hurt you cheer it. It’s grossly hypocritical. This is people having their rights trampled on and you look down your nose at them telling them they deserve it.
You have my sympathy, but not my compassion.
My compassion ran out when America continued to embrace - even celebrate - right wing rule
Yea that’s fair. We are an embarrassment to the world right now but for us to fix it we need to be working together instead of carving ourselves up into more little tribes.
Endlessly being told "you don't understand" by commenters who only use tv-friendly and repeatable povs and barely try to mask their hate towards their fellow citizens gets awful tiring huh? I left R-town to get away from the bloodlust but .world be too damn infested wit reddit 2.0 types fr
Pretty sure if it were up to these people, the law would have never passed. And it would be repealed now.
But it's not. This is what the people of Florida voted for.
I didn’t vote for it, I didn’t want it, and just like the country I’m stuck with it. It’s acceptable to be an American and hate Trump and what he’s doing without being told you deserve it, but it’s not the same thing when it comes to Florida for some reason.
At least they owned the liberals, right?
It must be real inconvenient to have to turn on a VPN, it's like a whole button that they have to click, Libs totally owned. Meanwhile the actual weird idiots that voted for this can barely operate a mouse and so they actually do have to suffer the consequences of their own decisions.
well yes it's inconvenient to have to pay to pretend to be in another country to access a website
Then there’s “normal” websites that use cloudflare and blocks vpn access for no good reason (looking at you Home Depot and Lowe’s), or worse yet, they redirect you to a country-specific website based on the ip location.
You mean like Reddit? Reddit folded to OpenAI btw. Open AI was co-founded by Elon Musk. You can just tell they are not on the good side of history.
Like a lot of websites. I also forgot to mention how Google has to verify you’re human because you’re on VPN.
Big box stores vary prices by regions. So no vpn makes sense.
That’s why they have the ability to lookup and select a store. I actually opened a help desk ticket with Home Depot and they did eventually fix it so vpn is allowed. Lowe’s I kinda just gave up by that point.
Why another country? Just pick a neighboring state so you don't get terrible latency.
And Proton VPN is free and is probably fast enough to get the job done. Or there's Tor. You don't necessarily have to pay.
Trump needs to add jailtime for using VPN's.
"Hey frogs, stay in the hot water, it's not boiling yet!"
Guilty Canadian Admission:
In my teens I lived in Brockville Ontario near Ogdensburg New York and watched a lot of US channels. The Star Spangled Banner came on at the beginning of the broadcast day for some channels.
For many years, I thought the first line was "Jose can you see"
When I was a kid I thought the "for which it stands" in the national anthem was in reference to a country called "witchistan", which was presumably full of witches.
I think Jose is from Witchistan
I actually snickered. Thanks for that.
Nah, Witchistan's national anthem is much more of a banger.
Bonus points if your name is Jose.
I accidentally came up with a Minnesotan version: "Oh hey, can you see"
Does the UK have anti porn laws? Can't say that being very effective, since I appear to be circumventing them without intending to.
It's not in effect yet: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwye3qw7gv7o
People with humiliation fetishes are gonna love this shit.
Make sure you cum on your ID first as tribute.
That sounds like a chicken and egg problem. How is the cum getting on the ID before accessing the porn? If you use another means, surely you will no longer be in the mood for accessing a porn site...
About time to invest in a VPN
Yet another republican tax increase.
Depends on how much other media you consume. If you're forced to get a VPN anyway I bet you're more likely to start looking into pirating everything else, too
With Meta officially saying that leeching is totally okay as long as you're not seeding, go for it.
But you should totally seed and be a good citizen though.
Eh, I see it as a necessity in the modern age, it's politically agnostic for me. I run a full time VPN as a matter of privacy and security.
VPN doesn't really do anything for security, and it only really gives you privacy from your ISP. They're very much over-marketed by VPN companies.
It absolutely does provide security on a public WiFi network.
Not really.
If your browser is properly configured, it'll recognize a MITM attack, so you'll know if your traffic is properly encrypted because it checks root certs against a known good set. The only concern is domain name leakage (both from DNS and SNI), but that's a privacy thing, not a security thing. DoH fixes the DNS issue, so consider that for a low hanging fruit privacy win.
If you're accessing things outside a browser... don't do that on public WiFi unless you can confirm it verifies certificates.
I spun up OpenVPN on a Digital Ocean droplet 7-years ago. LOL, no longer have any idea how it works, but it's $6/mo. and never dies. 🏴☠️
There have been a number of (I'll admit, not high-risk) security updates since then.
Yeah, keep up on those.
I use a Hetzner VPS ($5, ha!) as a VPN and run updates every month or two. It only takes a minute and you could automate it if you want.
God bless that mole
Yeah and just torrent porn or use those debrid services. Stop giving these sites that bend the knee traffic.
Don't bend the knee when you want to choke the chicken
What if I just want to choke my monkey?
Freedom
This will never be removed. There will only ever going to be more types of websites that have to use this
It's a lubed slope
I wonder if that'll end up being true. I'd guess these constituents represent voters that watch porn at least as much on average as anyone else. I'm going to go ahead and guess above average. They might get tired of this and push for change. But I'm also admittedly less educated on how our political system works than I should be and might be overestimating how much influence Florida Man has because he's disgruntled at having to jump through hurdles to fap.
The problem is that it's political suicide to be the "pro sex, pro smut" politician. Consistently the counters to anti sexual freedom laws have come from the courts. By saying "age verification on porn has gone too far," a politician more or less accepts that their entire campaign is going to be about this. And when that happens the right has the advantage because they have the ability to be short and quippy as they misrepresent you and play to emotions.
This is the same reason japan still blurs genitals. Someone decades ago got that law passed and now no one is gonna campaign on changing it. Theoretically it should be easier to do in a parliamentary system (a few years back there was a single member of congress elected from the "no more tv taxes" party), but even still it'd be tough. In the states it has zero chance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHK_Party
Great explanation! That makes a lot of sense. No real value for them to rock the boat.
Yeah, and its why we never repealed the Comstock laws. Its also why unconstitutional laws should be automatically stricken from the books, not merely deemed unenforcable
Soon You'll have to go back to borrowing porn magz from Your friends.
Return of the hollow porn stash log in the forest.
You are free to be as conservative as you want. What more can you ask for?
Conservatives jerk off to porn all the time. This isn't even strictly conservative per-say, its just generic American prudishness. 30 years ago, you'd have Tipper Gore and Newt Gingrich coming together to restrict the sale of rap music CDs and wrestling themed video games to anyone under the age of 13, on similar grounds.
Demanding everyone have an ID present any time they want to do anything is a throw-back to the 90s liberal fixation on "accountability" that was a proxy for mass surveillance.
To be able to vote outside the two party system with the ability to transfer your vote if your preference doesn't win to prevent a spoiler effect
Ideally with a Condorcet system, like Approval or STAR, but I'd back anything that gets traction against FPTP.
“Show penis for verification”
"Please suck verification dick to continue."
But what if woman?
Time for fediverse pron
We have lemmynsfw
Fortunately, this is easy to work around, just get a VPN hosted in a didn't different state or country.
We have something similar here in Utah, so I have a WiFi network that is always connected to a VPN in a neighboring state. If something isn't accessible, I just swap WiFi networks and I'm good.
So what who cares. VPNs cost money and this is a question of basic freedom.
There are free VPNs as well, such as Proton's free tier, or Tor. So you've got options.
But yes, I absolutely agree that this shouldn't be necessary. My point is that it's largely unenforceable if you put in a tiny amount of effort.
Free porn is basic freedom?
The porn is just the first place they start, their plan is to label anything lgbt as pornographic and require a similar process to view basic educational content. This is how they get around the 1st amendment.
Oh yeah I do see the slippery slope of this whole deal, the only thing that irked me was the wording of this comment as if xhamster is a basic human freedom, but I find that a little odd since xhamster and pornhub steal from sex workers to provide it "for free" y'know.
But with the banning of books and trans people unable to get in or out of the country.... It is fucked up and scary.
Which LGBTQ content is educational ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray%27s_Anatomy
You're obviously baiting arguments, but I'll take the bait because you deserve to get put in your place.
In case you missed the last month of US politics, not all women have uteruses, and not all men have testicles. Intersex people exist and they deserve human rights.
Clearly just woke propaganda /s
There's a correlation between people who swallow stupid right wing talking points and people who were unsuccessful educationally. It may be unproductive to take your rhetorical question literally and attempt to provide factual information in response.
Not sure, but it's very ironic coming from "the land of the free". Every day there is an american coming out in the Internet with the classic "you don't have freedom of speech", and then they have to provide a driving licence for a quickie
Seems like it became so, yea
But it's more a question of anonymity / privacy while doing those things
Accessing it without violating your privacy is the issue, not the cost.
I mean yes? It's just videos of naked people...
Not all nudity is porn.
Honestly, these laws are just gonna hurt old men in Republican states. Like, I grew up with piracy, torrents, and old school forums. These educated me on computers enough that I made a career out of it. And most of that computer knowledge was gained because I wanted to see big tittied women sit on each other's faces. These laws don't stop horny teens from accessing porn. It just makes them better at it.
And this is definitely not one of the cases of "oh it'll reduce numbers overall though". No the fuck it won't. It's porn. They're gonna access it. Literally every YouTuber they watch is sponsored by a VPN.
The only healthy thing to do is actually talking to your kids about porn. Educating them on its potential harms. But Republicans don't ever want to talk to their kids. Ironically, these "drain the swamp" people just want daddy government to "prevent" their kids from accessing it. Which these laws don't do.
Exactly. And it punishes the responsible sites that follow the law and drives people to the sketchier sites that don't.
If you want more viruses and identity theft, I guess this is a good law for you.
Yep. If these red states actually cared about kids they'd care about proper sex education. But I think this stuff just proves that Republicans are afraid of sex. They had an awkward conversation about it with their dad once and have been leaving their wives unsatisfied for 30 years since. They have no idea what to do if their kid actually came home from school and asked them what the difference between a clitoris and a vagina was. They are absolutely afraid of the female body and it's why they try to control it so much.
Sorry. A bit of a rant. If this was a different conversation I'd have plenty to criticize about the sex industry too. But these conservatives don't have enough brain cells to actually talk about the problems with it. So we have old men making laws that do nothing but make them feel better. Or it's projection for their own porn addiction.
My money is on projection.
Column A and Column B for sure
You know I think a lot more of their politics and general life outlook makes more sense when you understand that probably a lot of these super old guys are not computer literate enough to look up their niche fetishistic porn interests, and are probably still consuming porn the old fashioned way, which is becoming increasingly nonexistent even though it's still something that actually exists. Plus the propagation of morally puritanical values means that if they kept any of that material around at all, they'd be hypocrites, so they can't have that. Probably a lot of these dudes are walking around super pent up and sexually frustrated, I'd bet.
We need to introduce local community college and library courses to teach these elderly boomers how to goon
I think your theory is partially correct. But I think it's just as likely they are gooners themselves. I feel like porn addiction (gooning) is more prolific which people that have reactionary beliefs. My theory is that their political leanings are a counter to their actual actions. I don't think the gooner needs "material" to goon to. I think in it's absence it will happen through a Macy's magazine etc.
It's similar almost to priest being the most common pedos. I think these types of conservative/reactionary ideologies just create sexual suppression that manifest in addictive behavior. This is not to say that all conservatives are pedos. But to say that those beliefs combined with sexual suppression often creat these extremes. Whether it be addiction to gooning (outside of their access to goon material) or otherwise.
Idk. I just think that it's an unhealthy relationship with sexuality that any generation can fall pray to. But it's happens more often based on the circumstances of each individual/generation. And it's why it seems to be so extreme in both boomers and recent generations. They both are experiencing extreme economic material conditions/contradictions.
Pedos tend to aggregate around any job that will give them trusted or unrestricted access to children. The suppression you're talking about in this case isn't just from religion, but permeates all of society. Like, they can't even hypothetically leave the church and move somewhere more liberal where their desire for kid fucking isn't being suppressed. At least not until the weird libertarian crypto-bros who oppose age of consent manage to create such a place.
That’s insane
Will porn be the straw that broke the mountain's back?
Prohibition but worse
MAGA Republicans: will riot if you give them a Facebook event invite
Democrats: let's see, maybe they will riot if you take their houses or something. At least they might write a strongly worded comment
It's because the Republicans usually have the police either directly on their side, or at least sympathetic to them.
Look at the police response across the country to BLM protests a few years ago.
And it's not like left wingers in the country don't do extreme action. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protest
I did say democrats, not far left. And I did compare them to a far right group, not the reasonable non GOP Republicans
No because there are a million different websites that just don't follow these rules. All this does is dissuade people who are both clueless about where to find porn and not particularly determined.
It also won't make a difference when basically every major social media website is a softcore porn website. I feel like conservatives opened their crusade by targeting thotfluencers they would have had a lot of momentum.
They did. Under the hashtag ThotAudit, after one thotfluencer said something that could be interpreted as her not paying taxes on the money she was making showing her bits online.
I remember that, but I'm like 95 percent sure that was a different faction of conservatives. The current porn bans are being spearheaded by evangelical Christians, while ThotAudit was originally a 4Chan thing.
May he enjoy the sweet freedom of USA!
Fiefdom*
I wonder, how many of the verification photos are shirtless?
I wonder how many are from a middlefinger next to a dick
Oh they wouldn't dare to do that, that's the longest finger!
There has to be a lot of old porn boxes in the woods. Since kid stopped looking for them in favor of Internet.
I VPN’s to Florida and e621 needs no age verification. Time for every Florida person to become a furry!
Or use sketchy Russian porn sites and get syphilis for your device
Reddit also works fine, probably. At least in my area with a similar law, they just have a "you sure you 18 bro?) popup, at least on old.reddit.com.
Make all their traffic porn, it's the best way to fight /u/spez...
Free range porn, like our ancestors used to watch
This is a great opportunity to learn how to use a VPN! I'm in a blue state so haven't needed one yet, but the time is definitely coming.
Nowadays, there's not much to learn. For user-friendly OSes, just install the VPN app, sign in like any other service, and, at a minimum, hit "go". Most people will want to scroll through a list of locations of where they want to appear to be, choose a location, then hit "go".
Yup, my red state pulled this nonsense, so I made a WiFi network that connects to a VPN for you in a less stupid state. If I get blocked somewhere, I just change WiFi networks.
And ANON doesn’t understand how to use a VPN?
If they knew that, they wouldn't have made the post
Whenever someone says, "who cares, proton VPN is free," I get a bit sadder. If Proton ever drops the free tier, honestly? I'll understand. Because God knows, seeing people who can't be fucked to give a damn about open access to information using costly infrastructure to watch their shitty porn, I might've just cut it already.
"This process is highly secure, Anon". Said the actor in the movie.
I'd rather go back to (poorly) drawing boobs and stuff...
Fucking Jesus. They did say they wanted to ban porn and this is only the first step. This will systematically destroy porn and livelihoods. Who in their right minds would upload a picture of their horny selves next to their licence to some likely unreliable site? Lower the traffic and you kill the shit out of sex work. Evil motherfuckers, man.
I think it's uncontroversial to say that porn is bad for children, and I would say that social media is bad for children as well. I think as one matures and becomes an adult both become less bad, less fraught, but the difference between the two of Is that one with one of them you sometimes want to be anonymous, and the other one you almost always want to be anonymous.
I mean I'm against requiring affirmative identity verification online anyway, even as a solution to keeping children away from things that are unhealthy for them. You can't sacrifice the freedom of adults on the altar of protecting children.
I disagree, I just think what makes them bad for adults is different from what makes them bad for kids.
But yeah, I agree with your conclusion. Regardless of your views here, surely requiring companies verify ID online is a bad idea.
IMO, parents should be the ones to choose how to regulate what their kids access, and they should be responsible for any harm their choices cause.
It's going to suck when they outlaw VPNs
VPN bans are my red line where I start putting all my time and money into getting citizenship elsewhere.
Protect my minors?
Easy solution! Just make a profile before the photo verification was implemented
Why would you want a profile on a porn site? That's just one data breach away from revealing all your naughty secrets.
Bet they voted trump like an idiot
the day e621 gets hit with the cuck license is the day the US empire falls.
You are a fool to consent to this.
The privacy and security issues of this are pretty obvious. However I do think that the easy accessibility and ubiquity of porn and highly sexualized content for children and tweens is a serious problem that people who make fun of porn restriction efforts fail to address or even acknowledge.
Certainly a lot of the responsibility falls on guardians, but it's hard to moderate when you're up against the giant machines of social media. They need help to limit exposure. And this isn't some prudish "oh no protect the children from the titty and the peen" attitude. I don't think most people feel comfortable with the idea of 10-year olds sharing videos of aggressive gang banging or throat fucking like it's a normal thing. And obviously this isn't exclusive to porn. Plenty of explicit and gruesomely violent content out there to be worried about. But the internet footprint of porn dwarfs everything else put together.
Why is it everyone's problem that parents can't figure out that their kids shouldn't have unlimited unrestricted access to the internet? They know not to let their children loose on the Las Vegas strip, why can't they apply the same logic to the internet? I don't agree with 10 year olds looking at porn even slightly but also it's not my problem. I'm tired of the world making everything child friendly. I don't have kids for a reason and if I want to watch Human Centipede 1-4 while blasting hardcore dwarf deepthroat gangbang porn then that's my prerogative.
Because we live in a society and things that impact society impact you, as a member of society. It's the same reason why we have age restrictions for alcohol, porn stores, and cigarettes. It's also why we have laws about seatbelts, labour, and certain non-toxic but excessively unhealthy ingredients. Even if you take giving a shit about others out of the equation, the self-interested view knows that what happens to others' kids now can and do become your individual problem down the road.
Enforcing age restriction is not a ban. I think as an adult it's entirely your perogative to watch your dwarf porn. However your framing of "making everything kid friendly" is a bit misleading and disingenuous. It's quite the same as complaining everyone is always trying to make things kid friendly because they check your ID at the liquor store. Would it be more convenient if you could just grab and go? Sure. But the social harm without it clearly outweighs the inconvenience.
The fickle problem with the internet porn is still privacy and data security, but that's a separate issue.
It's really not. Establish an open and trusting relationship with your kids.
Porn will be accessible without ID regardless, because plenty of sites operate outside the neutron jurisdiction of the US. All this does is punish responsible sites and push kids onto sketchier websites.
The only real solution here is responsible parenting. If you're not going to be a responsible parent, don't have kids.
Not every kid has the privilege of being born to parents who give a shit or are even in their lives for one reason or another.
Still my original point was not about what the actual good pragmatic solutions are to reducing accessibility (a spectrum from can't avoid it to mildly inconvenient to highly inaccessible to banned). It was about recognizing the problem at all.
Yeah, some parents suck. And they should probably face legal repercussions. But as you imply, that's another ball of wax entirely.
Honestly good, less taking advantage of women and thinking of them as a piece of meat
First they came for the wankers... And I didn't speak up.
Conservatives practically invented taking advantage of women and considering them nothing but their property.
Yep, thats also bad.
Because, apparently gay porn (with men) or just men in porn at all doesn't exist. I understand that some porn producers can be exploitative, especially to women, but that doesn't mean the whole industry is bad and needs to be blocked.
And women like porn too.