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Musk accuses Ukraine leader of ‘feeding off dead bodies of soldiers’ in vicious rant

Summary

Elon Musk accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of “feeding off the dead bodies of soldiers” and falsely claimed he is “despised” by Ukrainians, echoing Donald Trump’s rhetoric.

Musk also threatened changes to X’s Community Notes after fact-checkers refuted his claims. Trump and Musk’s remarks align with Russian propaganda, prompting European leaders to reaffirm support for Ukraine.

Observers rejected claims that Ukraine is a dictatorship, emphasizing that its wartime election suspension is both legal and justified, similar to the UK's approach during World War II.

Critics argue Musk’s stance undermines free speech and factual discourse while aiding Kremlin narratives against Ukraine.

Musk accuses Ukraine leader of ‘feeding off dead bodies of soldiers’ in vicious ranthttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-x-ukraine-trump-zelensky-b2702216.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.world

Man I just love that our dumb fuck leaders are regurgitating Kremlin lies for our dumb fuck citizens to lap up like dogs.

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Aurenkinreply
sh.itjust.works

I heard his approval rating is insanely low for a president this early in their term. Unfortunately it doesn't mean so much now but at least there are folks in the USA not lapping it up, no idea where they were on election day though.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

It doesn't matter how low it is, he has that 30% locked in.

It will literally take him destroying their lives for any of them to change, and a bulk of them will still never change, much like the COVID deniers who denied it's existence up to their last breath when COVID killed them.


One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.

-Carl Sagan

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lemm.ee

God damn, Carl Sagan 360 no scoping the 2020s from the 80s and 90s.

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I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance.

Yeah Sagan did that kind of a lot.

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It also doesn't matter 'cause they got elected, so they don't care anymore. They'll spend the next two years transferring as much power to the Whitehouse as possible, so that it doesn't even matter in the midterms. The very clearly will try to get a third term movement going. It's straight out of the Hungarian and Belarussian playbook - it's not fantasy.

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thejmlreply
lemm.ee

The great thing is that it doesn’t matter how high that disprove number goes, he’s already in power as is Musk who we didn’t even vote for.

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Optionalreply
lemmy.world

No need to insult the dogs, bro. "lap up like MAGAts" will do fine.

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MyOpinionreply
lemm.ee

Any country that is running an election needs to block X right away.

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lemmy.world

So much money that my brain is incapable of truly understanding what it would look like in cash.

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lemmy.world

His net worth is about 17% of all the cash in circulation in the US. One asshole.

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Which is a fun trivia but a bit irrelevant. His net worth is in overvalued tesla shares, it's not like his owns 17% of all dollar bills, stored in a huge swimming pool.

For a brief while, Max Fosh had a higher net worth than him.

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Just to give you some perspective. One hundred million dollars in 100 dollar bills would be a pallet stacked about 4 feet high. A semi trailer could hold about 56 of those pallets, or $5.6B. As of today, Forbes says Elon is worth $384B, which would be about 68.5 semi trailers full of $100 bills.

But I'm sure more would materially improve his life.

Sources:

Visualizing f a billion dollars

Forbes real-time billionaire list

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Because no one has the sack to put a stop to it.
Trump is out for blood this term, and even the slightest hint of dissention will get you fired and dragged through the razors.

Other than pandering, notice how quiet the GOP has been lately.

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Seriously, what's the point in keeping it around? There's really very little if any upside.

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I also block any news source that uses X as the main delivery of whatever their article was about. It's been a bloodbath.

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feddit.nl

If by now you’re still on X, you’re actively part of the problem. No more excuses.

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

I will delete my account as soon as I get the chance. I mean I don't use it at all, but I think it's important now to actively remove it.

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lemmy.world

I can't remember my user name. To reset my password I need to enter my user name...

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

Can't you enter the email you used to sign up?

Either way, you probably could use a password manager in your life ✨😁✨ Life changer.

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Right. You want to login so you can delete it. Try the email you used to sign up, instead of the username. 🙂

Edit: I'm dumb. Right, you're stuck. 🫠 That's a shame.

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alkbchreply
lemmy.ml

Have you found an alternative where I can follow most public personalities that I currently follow on X?

Edit 4 days later: I came across https://openportability.org/ and used it to gather my following list on X and follow them on Bluesky and Mastodon. 3 people found on Bluesky and 0 on Mastodon...

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Exactly. Bluesky is not ideal by any means, and could turn into a another "X" down the line, but it's the best alternative to avoid it right now. It's also pretty popular, with some posts from famous people raking in as much engagement as Edgelord Musk on X.

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Any public personality that stays on x is not worth following.

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lemmy.ca

There's perfect, and then there's "Sure I'm supporting a genocidal, Nazi lunatic destroying global democracy, but like... how else will I hear about what public personalities had for lunch?".

Not sure the bar could be any lower.

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I do not support Nazis.

When your life is perfect, you can criticize me.

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Thank you. I asked in good faith, I am exploring Mastodon and looking for the accounts I follow on X but a lot are missing unfortunately.

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Mojavereply
lemmy.world

Yeah, your local gas station gossip magazine you pop culture addict

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Mojavereply
lemmy.world

What public figure are you following on exclusively Twitter that is important enough to stay there?

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About 80 journalists, politicians and political analysts.

As suggested by a couple helpful people here I will check if they have blue sky accounts and will encourage them to setup a Mastodon account.

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alkbchreply
lemmy.ml

I like to stay informed about politics and prefer to read content straight from politicians and political analysts.

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Mongosteinreply
lemmy.ca

They probably have websites where they post news

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Or like a content aggregator where people post links to news and discuss it. I wonder where I can find one of them,

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Tjareply
programming.dev

You should keep reading, you'll like the plot twist...

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He came back to life, then popped out for milk and a packet of cigs and will have been back any minute now for the last twenty centuries, pinky swear promise

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Someonereply
lemmy.ca

You might have to miss out for a bit, but once they start noticing a significant drop they'll move somewhere else. People with "public personalities" want to be seen and heard, they'll go where people can see and hear them.

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I’m willing to miss out on a few of them if I can find most of them somewhere else.

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alkbchreply
lemmy.ml

Because that is where most politicians and political commentators are.

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Uristreply
lemmy.ml

Out of curiosity, if Kanye West opens a book club for reading Mein Kampf, would you join it to keep up to date with unfiltered political analysis by a piece of shit? If the answer is no, maybe you should reconsider your stance on X.

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I am not interested in Kanye West’s opinions.

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lemmy.world

One is defending his homeland from an oppressive and authoritarian regime.

The other sells cars that drive people into walls and fire trucks, then cancels the people investigating and regulating his company.

Who feeds off dead bodies?

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Holy shit Zelenskyy appears to have seriously triggered them.

I wonder if he said something to the effect of “no i will not participate in your stupid fake peace process, if you want to stop supporting us, say it with your full chest to your own country where I have a higher approval rating than you.”

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lemmy.world

Putin is putting a lot of pressure on them to make this deal. Elon's kids could be kidnapped, or his parents. Putin isn't messing around. They are in deep shit. What Elon keeps thinking is National Treasure meets The Hangover meets Austin Powers with him as this "funny but lovable" space villain who is just being a little rascal, is a delusion. And when Putin reminds him that this is actually real life with real consequences, it triggers his substance use issues and other narcissistic abuse issues. He is seriously in deep shit, they are messing with BRICS mafias and mobs that are part of official state governments that have nukes. It's not good for them

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lemmy.world

Kidnapped? He probably lost track of the other 12 that he isn’t using as photo op props in the Oval Office.

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I don't think he cares about his children, he uses the current one as a human shield,

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lemm.ee

How wild is it that any women would let Elon sploodge inside her?

It’s fucking disgusting.

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If this were the 1930s, Musk would be blaming Poland for not submitting to the Nazis in the same way.

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lemmy.world

It still baffles me that the party that wraps itself in the American flag and calls themselves "Patriots" seem to have no problem what so ever in letting a non-elected immigrant run the country.

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It baffles me that a "news" site with a storm trooper helmet is treated as a source in that tweet.

T the irony of storm troopers being empire drones representing "freedom" of any sort.

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lemmy.ca

It's so bizarre that this lunatic has managed to have any success in life. Any at all.

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friedmagreply
lemmy.ml

Not really. He was born wealthy, remember?

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lemmy.world

He knows we can talk to the people of Ukraine, doesn't he? Like, it's not like the olden days where very few people ever directly communicated with people from other countries. You can't just pretend we don't know how they feel about stuff.

Elections are suspended because no one has time to "run an election". Basically, that is not at all what is important right now. A much larger and more powerful country is literally trying to erase them. It's so far failing to do so in a staggering way that is probably super embarrassing. Ukraine is not doing OK in the grander sense, of course, but they are doing way better than anyone would have expected, especially the Ukrainian people. Zelensky has managed to maintain both support and respect, but more importantly, morale.

Zelensky is a big problem to Russia, you know how you can tell? Listen to Elon and Trump talk about him...

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IsoKieroreply
sopuli.xyz

Elections are suspended because no one has time to “run an election”.

And also (if I've understood correctly) it's straight up impossible by Ukrainian laws to run elections when martial law is active. They'll hold democratic elections eventually and choose the next president but until then Zelenskyi is sitting president. Things run just like their laws mandate.

In some other country there's memecoin agency operating without any legal oversight with considerable power, maybe look on to that first...

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lemmy.world

It´s why they want a cease fire and a peace agreement, so martial law stops and elections can start again. That doesn´t do away with the whole discussion about what regions of Ukraine are then valid to do an election, such as Crimea, or what to do with all the refugees in other countries.

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Also, Marc Bankston should be gleefully taking $400+B from him in slander and defamation lawsuits

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lemmy.world

I don't want to call for anything illegal here but Elon Musk has to go somehow or some way. He's a danger to the western world. He is compromisable and a facist.

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lemmy.world

I've injected a fair bit (accidentally) on one occasion. Took me a while to work out who I was and what had happened, but I was fine after a bit. But TBF you can overdose on pretty much anything if you take enough.

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Yeah I've heard of people dying that way. I believe you can actually get something like drunkenness from water - although you'd have to drink a lot, and you'd probably die not long after experiencing the sensation.

Too much of anything is going to fuck someone up proper.

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I heard you become anesthesized long before that. Maybe alcohol or cocaine can do it

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feddit.nl

This is literally a Russian talking point! "If you care about these soldiers, you'd end the war quickly!"

In other words, give Russia the land they stole and reward them for all the men, woman and children they have murdered, tortured, raped, and stolen as well as all the destruction they caused! If you do that, Russia will do this again, and it might be your country! Please support Ukraine because I think the US will actively help Putin now...

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It's either this, or the buzzwords using"Western countries did this or that", it's the same thing tulsi said a while back on a poc right wingers channel

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vga
sopuli.xyz

I starting to genuinely wonder if we'll see Musk getting executed in my lifetime. Either by lynching/angry mob Mussolini style or an actual judicial process leading to death penalty.

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We don't need to ask Luigi.

He already showed us what to do. We can be even more effective than Luigi by just having more people rising up Caesar-style.

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Depends on whether he manages to create the 4th Reich with Putin or whether Europe wins the upcoming war.

Perhaps he manages to piss off the rednecks and they lynch him, but so far they seem to love it. Then again the consequences may not really be felt by them yet.

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Is it allowed to say that I honestly can't wait to see Elon gone from this planet? What a piece of shit human being ugh

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Every person, every business on this fascist propaganda sewer is now on The List. Time's up.

Oh you need it for - Don't care. It's a good tool to - Don't care. OFF. NOW.

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lemm.ee

In a country known for guns, poor mental health care and prideful morons you'd figure this fuck face would be dead already. No one willing to take one for the team, eh? Me either.

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lemmy.world

Why is anybody listening to that little Muskrat? Guy needs to be put in a rocket and shipped to Mars so we dont have to listen to his manic rantings. I feel sorry for his 12 kids .

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Guy needs to be put in a rocket and shipped to Mars so we dont have to listen to his manic rantings.

Instead of Mars how about straight into the void of space?

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Because money is speech and he has more of it to shove down the worlds throat than literally anyone else.

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Insane how they're not even trying to "both sides" it, saying the Russians have some culpability for the war. Nope, just shamelessly supporting a Russian dictator.

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retrolemmy.com

Musk is a grifter that has never created anything in his life m. He has leeched off other’s creations thanks to the emerald spoon he was born with

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lemm.ee

The word "treason" used to mean something in this country . It can again.

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meliaescreply
lemmy.world

We can just send him back to Africa, in whatever condition.

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“feeding off the dead bodies of soldiers”

Then tell Russia to stop sending soldiers. It takes two to tango.

Though, given the many sexual harassment/assault allegations against him, maybe he doesn't.

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While this scumbag is acting president his companies should not be allowed to operate in the EU. Ban all of them and confiscate any EU based assets.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I have to say I find this somewhat curious. Why is Musk aligning with Putin? I don't think it's just to echo Trump, but I also don't see how it's in his interest to do so. Being pro-russian is not exactly popular among Americans, across the whole political spectrum, and neither it is among allied nations. Does Putin have some kind of insane leverage, or what's in it for Musk?

Is he just so deep in his delusion that the world is his own shitposting messageboard that he's too busy being edgy to realize he's committing suicide?

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friedmagreply
lemmy.ml

He sees a model of oligarchy he likes. What else is needed? He has more money than anyone could ever spend in a thousand lifetimes. But now he has power, and it was so, so easy for him.

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

I think this is it, Musk is playing a different game than most of the others.

He knows that there are very few dollars left to squeeze out of the free market... So he is getting in on the ground floor of a new type of oligarch fascism he likes. Now he can not only control his competition, but the very basis of USD value itself... If you the think his stock market and crypto scams were bad, you haven't seen nothing yet.

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There is lots of money left, but after you used the cheat code and have unlimited money what is the point for a megalomaniac. The only way he can move forward is to make everyone poorer. This is the new plan.

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Allegedly, he was given liquid capital by Russian oligarchs to buy Twitter when the courts ruled that he was obligated to buy it. He might be rich, but that kind of money wasn't just sitting in his checking account. It was his company valuations.

Once he got tangled into Twitter, that's when he seemed to really go off the deep end.

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I don't think Musk is aligning with Putin. The crux of the issue is European countries do not have a plan. They provide very limited support to Ukraine which results in many Ukrainian casualties and loss of territory day after day.

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feddit.org

Remember how everyone applauded him for giving starlink to Ukraine? Yeah...

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IsoKieroreply
sopuli.xyz

"Giving" as in "US military paid them and Elon took credit for it".

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Right? Overpaid for by a lot, too. Just so he could turn it off whenever his buddy Putin asked.

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lemmy.world

What drugs is that jackass on? Gotta be some wild shit with all the insane crap he spouts anymore

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Musk also threatened changes to X’s Community Notes after fact-checkers refuted his claims.

The only part of this that surprises me is that it didn't happen sooner. Musk is so thin-skinned that he's indistinguishable from an anatomical model of a human.

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lemmy.world

I do not understand why Ukraine, with Poland, continue to use Starlink. WTF, Leon is in bed with the fucking neo-Nazis and Russians.

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No alternatives. And I'm not only talking about the military - some schools, kindergartners and other institutions use them in the places, where it would be very hard/impossible to use regular wired network.

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Best case scenario this will not end well for Elon. Worst case scenario this will not end well for the world and we'll all die in nuclear war or something.

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Musk can suck my farts

Guys a loser who would be a hobo if he wasn't born into money.

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I'm sure Ukraine does hate Musk because he's a piece of shit who parrots Russian propaganda and sells Starlink terminals to the Russian military

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They are protecting their Homeland from invasion-Elon has other motives!!!

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It's literally the geopolitical version of "Why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?"

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lemmy.world

and falsely claimed he is “despised” by Ukrainians

Doesn't really seem false by now. Zaluzhny was more popular and seemed to have some plan. Zelensky used the fact that said plan seemed a compromise worse than Ukraine can get at the time, to press Zaluzhny out. Ukraine really has spent some time postponing elections.

Also let's remember that under Poroshenko Ukraine was having steady military preparation and buildup, Zelensky didn't add much and Zelensky's approach to conflict, if anyone remembers, was almost pro-Russian (as in "we just have to stop shooting and talk", and yes, it doesn't seem there was a better plan). Also for two weeks or more before the invasion it was in all the news that US and other governments think Russia is going to invade Ukraine.

Ukraine could have, you know, mobilized, taken this seriously.

I'm of an opinion that Zelensky initially was a Russian trojan horse for Ukraine, similarly to Pashinyan for Armenia. Except Pashinyan did his job well and Armenia is on its knees, while Zelensky kinda failed to do that because of existence of well-prepared (at that point in time) military and western support.

This may seem satanic, but since Russia is grinding to shit its own troops in Ukraine, suggesting that a government or a faction interested in their country becoming again a Russian puppet is grinding its troops intentionally too - doesn't seem so stupid, I'll explain why - the military is basically where most of patriotic and volunteer work went in Ukraine since 2014. It's in some sense an institution such a government would try to damage as badly as possible.

Also notice how rumors about corruption in Ukraine's military (not taking about the rest of the government, that part is not interesting, it's an ex-Soviet state) have been building up slowly in correlation with that military becoming less professional and weary, because of slowly losing competent people as direct casualties, by disability or even burnout.

OK, that's my impression.

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Over 50% approval rating.

Higher than the leader of many other countries, like, er, USA.

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