Spyke
lemmy.wtf

Yes, yes, and yes. This is exactly what I'm seeing happen.

Those right leaning folks who were most vocal about how Biden was at fault for the last time egg prices went up are now suddenly fully willing to blame it on bird flu and not worried about it because prices will come back down soon. And already the increasing rate of inflation isn't the president's fault, inflation is high all around the world, there's little the president can actually do to control it, and it's actually Biden's fault. Funny how that works.

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It takes a minimum level of introspection and critical thinking for someone to recognize that they're a low-information hypocrite who parroted back what the media told them until they believed it. Combine that with the type of personality who thinks everyone else is a propaganda-brainwashed simpleton except them, and it brings us to today—where people still justify, argue for, excuse, and defend people acting against their interests.

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It's because stupid gets amplified. The other side doesn't play these games typically with the same energy as the right. Mainly because they're mocking how stupid it is than actually believing it. Then you still have some people in the middle, somehow, or maybe some younger folks that are like: that's a good point!

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JasonDJreply
lemmy.zip

I'm all for knocking down Vance for saying obviously non-factual shit, but this is a terrible example. He's not looking at any pricetags there except the ones behind him on the right (his left), very briefly, which are all, actually, around $4. He's shooting from the hip and uses the realistic price that came to mind and may even be the average price where he lives.

There's lots better examples. This isn't one.

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lemmy.world

Yeah man, the high profile person in a situation that was easy to rehearse and hard to fuck up definitely just misspoke in a way that affirmed his beliefs and spread misinformation to millions of Americans, strengthening his team's claim to the throne.

It was totally benign and nothing negative happened recently that was directly tied to misinformation like this.

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JasonDJreply
lemmy.zip

The dude legit said he will manufacture outrage as much as necessary. I'm not denying that.

He looks over his left immediately before he says that, where there are pricetags for $4/dozen. Even one for $5.

He's not wrong, he's not even hyperbolic.

If you're looking for an example of misinformation...I guess you could call this that, but there are far more egregious examples.

I wouldn't consider this an example of deliberate misinformation, though. I think it's petty to say so, and I think that it hurts your cause if you're saying "hurr durr he's lying about eggs being $4/dozen" when there are literally $4 eggs behind him.

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But he didn't say "these eggs are $4 a dozen" did he? He said "the average price of eggs is $4 a dozen."

A high profile person made an unsubstantiated claim in front of millions Americans and they ate it up. They believed what he said, not what he meant, even if it was a mistake

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lemm.ee

This is blatantly false. Clearly MAGAts would never touch an econ 101 book because they're too dumb to be able to read.

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They can't remember that far back. It's why they worship Reagan but have no idea what he actually did.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Econ 101 is liberal propaganda. They'd rather use much more trustworthy sources, like uneducated neckbeards ranting on YouTube.

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Oh but they'll readily pretend to recite from it now while holding it upside down none the wiser. Don't forget this is post truth 'Murica, bitches! 🤘

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deegeesereply
sopuli.xyz

Nobody but old farts knows Mr. Magoo. MAGAt sounds like maggot.

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Dagwood222reply
lemm.ee

Which means the MAGoos know exactly what you are calling them.

Learn to think strategically

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No that’s stereotyping that makes you seem out of touch. Most Trump supporters are younger than that.

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lemmy.world

I'm in my 30s and definitely know who Mr Magoo is. I think they used to rerun it on Cartoon Network when I was a kid.

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Ugh, and they tried to cash in on nostalgia with that Leslie Nelson movie...

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gruereply
lemmy.world

I feel like using that quote as a "MAGAntra" is an insult to Adam Savage.

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I forget which one, but there's a b-movie that uses this quote.

I like to think Adam is using it ironically, whereas the MAGAts is it as a battle cry.

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lemm.ee

It's not even exaggerated, here's some on sale eggs.... Basic store brand too.

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lemmy.world

It’s frustrating cause even when republicans are complaining, they are already being hypocrites from the shit their politicians did last time.

It’s a vicious cycle fucking cycle of hypocrisy.

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It's been like this for decades. Republicans wreck the economy, but it takes a minute so the effect isn't seen until a Democrat is in power. The democrats fix it, then the Republicans get back in and fuck it up again.

Only this time the democrats aren't going to regain power.

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lemmy.world

The price of eggs has nothing to do with the president. Bird flu is literally the explanation.

Over 41 million domestic birds have been culled in the past two months.

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Yeah buddy we all know this. We knew it then. We knew he was lying. He promised he would lower the prices of eggs day one. He's a liar. But he made the promise, so as stupid as is I'm going to keep holding him to it. I'mma keep bitching.

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JasonDJreply
lemmy.zip

I mean. He is also taunting the NIH, CDC, and WHO. That's gotta account for something, right?

He does have some control there. I'm sure bird flu containment would be a bit better handled without kneecapping the CDC.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

I agree that's definitely true going forward, but has fucking with the CDC etc. for -- jeezus, it's only been three weeks -- had time to have a material effect on the bird flu epidemiological trajectory yet?

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lemmy.world

Has the public humiliation of the standard-setters had an effect in 3 weeks?

As someone who has been around OSHA, it usually only takes 20 minute after they disappear before things start changing for the worse

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gruereply
lemmy.world

Yeah, but this is more about implementation of policy changes affecting the Rt of the virus, lag between the rate changing and the detection of that change in terms of actual measurements of the number of infections, etc. Even if Trump deliberately appointed somebody to send out an edict that poultry farms create the ideal conditions for the virus to spread as quickly as possible, there's still some lag for that appointment to happen, for the edict to be communicated to the farmers, for them to implement it, and then even under those ideal conditions the virus still can reproduce only so fast.

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You're absolutely right, it would take way longer if they told them to create the ideal conditions to spread the disease. They did slightly something slightly different though, they said "we no longer care about this regulation" which gets people to start fucking things up quite a bit faster than "change the way you do this for this new regulation"

You're not wrong that they're probably isn't a measurable a difference yet, but I guarantee that it's coming and it's going to come hard

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“This idea that science cannot continue until there’s a political lens over it is unprecedented,” said Anne Schuchat, a former principal deputy director at the CDC. “I hope it’s going to be very short-lived, but if it’s not short-lived, it’s censorship.”

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Can you make one with Trump and Musk that says “All Devils, No Eggs”?

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