I recall an anecdote about (I think) a Japanese admiral during WWII, who upon realising the US Navy had a ship dedicated to making ice cream, knew that they had lost the war.
Tbf, these had two good reasons. 1, coolant for Project Manhattan if something went horribly wrong with a nuke while getting it to the Pacific theatre. 2, the South Pacific is f-ing brutal without AC when you depend on your armor for safety.
That said, this is clearly an OpSec-related disguise. I'm not military but I've heard enough to pretend I saw nothing unless I hear someone inside begging for help. Usually it's just ammunition transport, so that nobody gets a bright idea to steal military-grade weapons.
If you think that's just "halfway between Hollywood and reality" BS, look up Project Mogul on wikipedia and keep in mind the CIA can pose as "a former FBI agent" if need be to spread disinformation about military assets. They were terrified the Soviets might get/drop nukes, the more paranoid you are, the more you should be able to relate to spies, generals and anti-terrorist personnel, even if it's not that likely to go bad in practice.
Remember, the last time military intelligence wasn't on the ball, 9/11 set the ball rolling for the current mess we're in. Not that the US under Trump again is in any way fully trustworthy.
And the tactical BK had the Royale, instead of the standard crispy chicken. At least the ones I visited did. It was a nice break from the US version with proper chicken breast.
It’s a continuous test cycle of logistics. If you can get familiar fast food, XBoxes and other creature comforts to troops stationed half a world away from home, you can get much spicier fare over when circumstances demand.
The prop for the W.O.P.R. sold a few years ago. IIRC, someone paid $25,000 for what my father said was a refrigerator box, with Christmas lights inside, painted black, and with plastic caps. He did all the computer graphics on Wargames. Apparently I threw up on Matthew Broderick the time my dad brought me to the set. I would have been 1 or 2 at the time.
People don't realize what constraints props departments are under, or for that matter, how little it takes to impress a camera.
IMO, everyone should binge-watch Adam Savage's YT channel before putting down serious money on a movie prop. A shocking amount of this stuff is basically made to survive the production time-frame, and little else.
Also: congrats with that brief brush with stardom. That's hilarious. Next time, you should seriously lead with "I threw up on Matthew Broderick once."
The one I had while waiting for the rotator flight to get me the fuck out of Afghanistan after a year of rations and dining facility fare. It may have been marginally better than BK at your local franchise, but, as the other poster is saying, the overall quality of the meal is not important in this particular context. It being a shitty fast food hamburger is its appeal.
I fully understand, but I’ve never been able to stomach fast food burgers. They taste like candied beef. The demographics of the army are such that most were likely raised on low-cost fast food, (which is funny considering how expensive fast food is nowadays) so they developed a taste for sugar sauce where I could not.
It’s my own personal complaint about style over substance and general tastes in the US. No one is wrong for their palate, but I am relentlessly judgmental about the pre-diabetic catastrophe of american food preferences.
Eh, Burger King is one of the less bad fast food burgers out there IMO. The Whopper and double cheeseburger are usually what I go for, and they don't have the same fake taste as McDonald's.
They're definitely okay. I'd much rather go to a local burger shop or Five Guys, but Burger King is acceptable in a pinch. Carl's Junior is better though.
Honestly, I just can’t tolerate any of the usual fast food places. I bake my own buns, grow my own veggies, and prepare my own mushroom/Anasazi patties when I get a hankering for a burger. There’s just too much sugar in everything
I'm gonna hazard a guess that, while local sandwich shops have quality, speed, and razor-thin margins down to an artform, a major fast food franchise is better suited to the task. The major reason being: logistics. A country-wide chain is probably at or close to the scale needed to qualify as a military contractor in this capacity. Nevermind the quality of the food, we're talking about the ability to move a stupendous amount of calories around. Assuming the photo is of a mobile kitchen, well, that would be the easiest part of all this.
Meanwhile, something familiar from home is bound to be a boost to morale.
I understand, but pitching Burger King as a positive to me is like offering coppa to a vegan. I understand the qualities that make it popular but that hardly changes my revulsion.
Frosties are pretty good, but there are better options than baconator, such as Ultimate Bacon Cheeseburger from Jack in the Box or pretty much anything w/ bacon at Carl's Jr. If you want ice cream w/ it, Culver's is way better than frosties IMO, and their burgers are pretty good as well.
I only go to Wendy's if I really want a frosty, and I usually don't get anything else w/ it (maybe some fries to dip in the frosty).
We have sotilaskoti and for field stuff they sometimes brought out a sotku car. Women selling coffee, berliners, cigarettes, everything a growing young lad needs. It was bliss eating a berliner after a week in a damp and cold forest.
I recall an anecdote about (I think) a Japanese admiral during WWII, who upon realising the US Navy had a ship dedicated to making ice cream, knew that they had lost the war.
I had to look this up. If numbers are down this would make great recruiting material.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_cream_barge
The Americans truly fight like kings. Having an ice cream ship is definitely something yoh should all feel patriotic about!
3 flavors, all you can eat.
Tbf, these had two good reasons. 1, coolant for Project Manhattan if something went horribly wrong with a nuke while getting it to the Pacific theatre. 2, the South Pacific is f-ing brutal without AC when you depend on your armor for safety.
That said, this is clearly an OpSec-related disguise. I'm not military but I've heard enough to pretend I saw nothing unless I hear someone inside begging for help. Usually it's just ammunition transport, so that nobody gets a bright idea to steal military-grade weapons.
If you think that's just "halfway between Hollywood and reality" BS, look up Project Mogul on wikipedia and keep in mind the CIA can pose as "a former FBI agent" if need be to spread disinformation about military assets. They were terrified the Soviets might get/drop nukes, the more paranoid you are, the more you should be able to relate to spies, generals and anti-terrorist personnel, even if it's not that likely to go bad in practice.
Remember, the last time military intelligence wasn't on the ball, 9/11 set the ball rolling for the current mess we're in. Not that the US under Trump again is in any way fully trustworthy.
The power of not employing minimum-wage 16 year olds who don’t give a shit.
I miss the honkey-tonks, Dairy Queens and Seven-Elevens...
And the tactical BK had the Royale, instead of the standard crispy chicken. At least the ones I visited did. It was a nice break from the US version with proper chicken breast.
"Yeah I did two Tours to Afghanistan."
"No I'm not in the military, I work at Burger king"
"I still see the Friday Night as the fryer broke in my nightmares...."
Sometimes, it's preferable to shoot someone than be on the line.
Not just BK either. Taco Bell, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, and Wendy's all have contracts with the military, probably more.
Re: your username. Navy nuke?
Do they do air drops? That would be kinda cool.
No clue. I was a Navy nuke. Not my department
It’s a continuous test cycle of logistics. If you can get familiar fast food, XBoxes and other creature comforts to troops stationed half a world away from home, you can get much spicier fare over when circumstances demand.
That makes sense, actually, yeah. Logistics is a difficult task, take it from an OpenTTD player.
Oddly thematic.
The prop for the W.O.P.R. sold a few years ago. IIRC, someone paid $25,000 for what my father said was a refrigerator box, with Christmas lights inside, painted black, and with plastic caps. He did all the computer graphics on Wargames. Apparently I threw up on Matthew Broderick the time my dad brought me to the set. I would have been 1 or 2 at the time.
I could listen to stories like this all day long.
I love that all, thanks for sharing the story!
People don't realize what constraints props departments are under, or for that matter, how little it takes to impress a camera.
IMO, everyone should binge-watch Adam Savage's YT channel before putting down serious money on a movie prop. A shocking amount of this stuff is basically made to survive the production time-frame, and little else.
Also: congrats with that brief brush with stardom. That's hilarious. Next time, you should seriously lead with "I threw up on Matthew Broderick once."
I'm here all day, go on
It's busy computing the tastiest recipe!
Above all else the US defence has the best logi
The camo on the cab is doing a whole lot of heavy lifting for the rest of the truck.
The cab portion is military owned. The trailer portion is corporate owned.
What trailer? I can't see a thing.
I just see a truck pulling America out of a plane.
I'm sure small arms fire and mortars would kindly divert from the corporate parts. Jury's out for artillery.
Is that camo or is it just dirty as hell? I really can't tell
Yes. It's camo and dirty as hell.
You need a whole trailer for a microwave and fake ass "broiler"??
There are an abundance of sandwich shops with low overhead, simple ingredients, and decent quality. And America chose Burger King over all of them.
What a weird thing to bitch about in a thread celebrating the military's ability to literally setup fast food for troops while skull fucking the OPs.
Which burger of theirs do you like most?
The one I had while waiting for the rotator flight to get me the fuck out of Afghanistan after a year of rations and dining facility fare. It may have been marginally better than BK at your local franchise, but, as the other poster is saying, the overall quality of the meal is not important in this particular context. It being a shitty fast food hamburger is its appeal.
I fully understand, but I’ve never been able to stomach fast food burgers. They taste like candied beef. The demographics of the army are such that most were likely raised on low-cost fast food, (which is funny considering how expensive fast food is nowadays) so they developed a taste for sugar sauce where I could not.
It’s my own personal complaint about style over substance and general tastes in the US. No one is wrong for their palate, but I am relentlessly judgmental about the pre-diabetic catastrophe of american food preferences.
Eh, Burger King is one of the less bad fast food burgers out there IMO. The Whopper and double cheeseburger are usually what I go for, and they don't have the same fake taste as McDonald's.
They're definitely okay. I'd much rather go to a local burger shop or Five Guys, but Burger King is acceptable in a pinch. Carl's Junior is better though.
Honestly, I just can’t tolerate any of the usual fast food places. I bake my own buns, grow my own veggies, and prepare my own mushroom/Anasazi patties when I get a hankering for a burger. There’s just too much sugar in everything
Gotta export those deer ankles they use for nuggets somewhere.
I'm gonna hazard a guess that, while local sandwich shops have quality, speed, and razor-thin margins down to an artform, a major fast food franchise is better suited to the task. The major reason being: logistics. A country-wide chain is probably at or close to the scale needed to qualify as a military contractor in this capacity. Nevermind the quality of the food, we're talking about the ability to move a stupendous amount of calories around. Assuming the photo is of a mobile kitchen, well, that would be the easiest part of all this.
Meanwhile, something familiar from home is bound to be a boost to morale.
I understand, but pitching Burger King as a positive to me is like offering coppa to a vegan. I understand the qualities that make it popular but that hardly changes my revulsion.
Answer the following question Mr. Griffin: "Home of the _____?"
Peter: "H- Home of the Whopper...?"
Hey, wake up and start the fryer, I think we landed.
Sneak King?
What the us army chants before annihilating another third world country
That was a lot more relevant than expected
They can't effectively fight us if they have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diarrhea
Hey WOPR, how about a nice game of chess?
The only problem is BK sprite literally, not figuratively, tastes like Lysol, in stark contrast to MCD's "best sprite in the galaxy."
DRONE BARRAGE INCOMING!
"Sir this is a Wendy's"
Hit the Whooper Button!
Burger King is trash by comparison.
Ronald McDonald gang
You clowns keep beefing with the slow kid that wears a paper crown, meanwhile Culver's and Wendy's fuck back.
Culver's is fantastic, but Wendy's? Really?
Baconator, frosties, and their twitter account.
Frosties are pretty good, but there are better options than baconator, such as Ultimate Bacon Cheeseburger from Jack in the Box or pretty much anything w/ bacon at Carl's Jr. If you want ice cream w/ it, Culver's is way better than frosties IMO, and their burgers are pretty good as well.
I only go to Wendy's if I really want a frosty, and I usually don't get anything else w/ it (maybe some fries to dip in the frosty).
Neither of those places are good, your opinion is invalid.
Sure, but they're better than Wendy's.
and spicy nugs
I wonder what the cost is per Whopper?
well including the humanitarian crisis discount and the urgency in need fee, about 20$
That’s cheap for the US military.
I was thinking $1000/ea would be a deal.
"Functional"
We have sotilaskoti and for field stuff they sometimes brought out a sotku car. Women selling coffee, berliners, cigarettes, everything a growing young lad needs. It was bliss eating a berliner after a week in a damp and cold forest.
I kind of expect a version with McDonald's and Trump saluting while crying tears of joy.
...and we're all out of Whoppers.