Spyke
lemmy.world

Imagine being such massive pieces of shit so young.

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lemmy.world

Why would that be hard to imagine?

Their brains literally aren't fully formed yet. And the prefeontal cortex is the last to develop.

Younger people will always trend towards "anti establishment" because of it, which makes a political landscape incredibly dangerous when the only two options only care about the wealthy.

The best way to prevent fascism is a pro worker socially progressive party.

Neoliberals stole that from us, then made America play Russian roulette 3x in a row with trump as the gun, and we lost twice.

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naughtreply
sh.itjust.works

I think that was a good read. I think the problem I have is that if I look back at my 20 year old self or my 23-year-old self, I see someone that was extremely self assured but had almost 0 real world experience or context for decision-making about very important things.

I think it is disingenuous to absolve them of all blame, but I don't think it's inappropriate to say that it's not surprising that they are young men given how easy it would be for someone who should be a role model to influence them. Elon Musk's team is young so he can control them

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That feeling never goes away. I'm 50 and consider the 40yo me to have lacked plenty.

Any line thus becomes quite arbitrary. The point is that there really isn't anything that supports the trope about "not grown until 25".

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That's just growing and maturing as a person. You're never supposed to stop.

I agree it's insane to put people that young in charge of the government, but it's not biology, it's inexperience. It's the same reason you don't put someone who just graduated college in charge of projects with life or death consequences regardless of whether they're 22 or 52.

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lemm.ee

So I agree it shouldn't be used as an excuse, but in a perfect world it would definitely be grounds for diminished responsibility. If your brain hasn't fully developed its decision making centre then you aren't on a level playing field with those whose have. And it's a fact that full development of the prefontal cortex doesn't occur until mid to late twenties. They're just not at the you-ought-to-know-better endgame, neurologically.

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troedreply
fedia.io

No, it's not a fact. That's the whole point.

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lemm.ee

So what kind of source would you accept?

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41386-021-01137-9

Although neurons of the PFC are generated before birth, the differentiation of its neurons and development of synaptic connections in humans extend to the 3rd decade of life.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3621648/#%3A%7E%3Atext=The+development+and+maturation+of+the+prefrontal+cortex+occurs+primarily%2Cthe+age+of+25+years.

The development and maturation of the prefrontal cortex occurs primarily during adolescence and is fully accomplished at the age of 25 years.

https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-teen-brain-7-things-to-know

The brain finishes developing and maturing in the mid-to-late 20s.

It seems to me that there is a scientific consensus on the subject.

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troedreply
fedia.io

Maybe read the link I posted? All the research on "25 years" stems from that being the cutoff year. The same developments continue throughout life.

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I did. But that link is just opinion. The studies are real science. The claim that all the research stems from it being the cutoff year is unsupported by the article in the link, which, again, is one person's opinion. Weighted against the consensus of medical science, it's just not very convincing to me.

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Thank you. If we deny 24 year olds agency we're just stunting them. At a certain point inability to make mistakes just prevents growth. Little kids need to learn that physics doesn't care that it hurt them. Teenagers need to relearn that lesson alongside lessons of how to interact among their peers and tired hold their burgeoning freedom. People in their early 20s need the full freedom of adults who can suffer long term consequences because even if they still had maturing to do that's part of it. Rather than denying them agency maybe we should be building safety nets and saying "hey I get it I did stupid shit in my early 20s too", but also those should extend to all ages because I'm still doing stupid shit in my 30s and I don't expect to ever look back 5-10 years back and think I would make all the same choices.

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Toga77reply
lemmy.world

You should still have a decent idea of right from wrong.

I wasn't a perfect adult at that age but I wouldn't have worked unelected for a billionaire to dismantle a government.

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Humans are not innately good, we need socialized like any animal.

Lots of people don't understand that, and it has terrible consequences

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Kids? They can vote. I understand that there's a gradient of maturity, but we can't give folks a pass just cause they're young.

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Hmmmmm.... Some of those faces look a bit DEI to this proud American. At least they're all males.

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DEI, all of them. They look like being assigned male at birth, but have obviously all transitioned into massive cunts.

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Musky Youth?

(H)IT(ler) Youth?

Ellen's Youngins?

Sorry, trying to make fun of them in some way is helping me deal with.... gesturing broadly ... this.

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I expect that we will be fighting Xittergruupen divisions within the decade. These malicious boys will become evil men.

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Some opportunistic idiots who seemingly don't have anything to lose and can be ditched by Elon as scapegoats if the need arises. I almost sure he groomed them with the myth of him being self-made billionaire and provided them a fabulous opportunity to join him. I'm almost sure they aren't kids anymore, but also that they don't know how to crime and that they need a plan B. In the musical chairs game they are likely to fall on their asses once the music stops.

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lemmy.world

can be ditched by Elon as scapegoats if the need arises

Needs a catchy phrase to go with it. How about "Night of the Long Knives"?

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It would rather be some 'DOGE-styling you GF as she screams in X-citement' kind of bullshit. Elon can't names.

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lemmy.world

And one who does is trying to cash in on his new job by charging people to read his Substack entry which boast, “Why DOGE: Why I gave up a seven-figure salary to save America.”

LOL

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Yeah maybe if he sums up all of his pre-tax total comp for each year he worked there, he might barely reach a seven figure number lmao

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sh.itjust.works

The records they've illegally accessed and tampered with are protected by numerous federal laws. Some of these carry the death penalty. These kids could literally end up hanging for this.

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Except there's no chance they will. America was absolutely terrible at killing its traitors and was dismantled as a result.

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technocritreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

These kids could literally end up hanging for this.

lol. Come back to reality. Far too privileged. The state is still gonna be hanging the poor and marginalized as always.

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AbidanYrereply
lemmy.world

If at least one of those assholes doesn't catch a bullet, I'll be very surprised.

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sh.itjust.works

"You have committed a crime."

Dangerous words. The kind of words that could get a man killed.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Wait.. I thought it was a crime to name them and share their picture.

Is the Musk Militia (or MM for short) coming for us?

Lol

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jordanlundreply
lemmy.world

Not to name them, they are public employees after all, but threatening them or doxing them will get the comments removed.

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That's the thing, they aren't public employees. DOGE isn't a valid government department, which requires congress. This is a private citizen and his private employees/associates (is he even paying them?) staging a take over of the government. Don't just grant them authority because they claimed to have it.

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floofloofreply
lemmy.ca

Musk is an unelected Nazi tearing down the fabric of the country hour by hour. It's incredible that no one can stop the little shit or his team of little shits.

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7U5K3Nreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yeah... It's too bad that the government doesn't have some sort of checks and balances..

Tho there are protests scheduled for tomorrow at your state capitol. But idk that'll help. A

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Protests won't fix it, in themselves. But it's important to show up because that shows people they're not alone in resisting this. A big protest encourages, emboldens and connects people. It's one of the steps towards building an effective resistance movement. If everyone says "it won't help, so I won't go" then the movement can't get off the ground.

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Protests are good to demonstrate a movement has real numbers, but don't just go to one to stand there. It's a great place to find political organizations which can work to create actual change.

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Musk’s team of youngsters, as first reported by WIRED on Sunday, is Akash Bobba, 21, a student at the University of California, Berkeley; Edward Coristine, 19, a student at Northeastern University in Boston; and Ethan Shaotran, 22, who said in September he was a senior at Harvard.

The ones who actually have degrees, or at least have left college, are: Luke Farritor, 23, who attended the University of Nebraska without graduating; Gautier Cole Killian, a 24-year-old who attended McGill University; and Gavin Kliger, a 25-year-old who attended Berkeley;

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The presidential diaper baby is a felon, and the people in charge of government don't even have degrees

Remember that next time an entry level job requires a master's, background check, and 5 years experience

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lemm.ee

They aren't kids. They're adults that have made their decision and must deal with the blowback from the public.

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"adult" is just a word. 19 year olds are... barely adult, by my definition. I started feeling more like an adult around 30, if I'm honest. That's when my brain was like, alright, maybe I'm responsible, confident, and settled enough to have kids of my own. To take real responsibility.

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I really look forward to all 6 behind bars in a few years. I wonder if they know the level of treason they are committing?

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There are a lot of steps before that happens. They are much more likely to end up killed than imprisoned by the looks of things.

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This kid really out here using his haircut to advertise his dad's popcorn company.

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Meritocracy at work ! These guys are obviously the most experimented people you could ever find for the job. Some of them even have a degree !

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I always fancied myself as more of a Tzeentch adherent, but I'm down to start adding some skulls to the fucking Skull Throne right about now...

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Kaputreply
lemmy.world

How credible is the channel? Also Gaza might be a perfect blank slate to set one of those patch. We ll see if USA give it to Israel or not.

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Not sure about the credibility of the channel, but the information conveyed in that video falls in line with a profiling of JD Vance and Peter Theil that I heard from NPR a couple of months before the election

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Chairman Musk's Red Guards. His totally genius thinking spinned ground breaking innovative way to push authoritarian scheme using gullible youth.

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These are our future politicians. Image how evil they will become before they start running for office.

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are there references on what doge is and is not supposed to be?

i guess dailybeast and wired made a sane call at least. baby steps.

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These guys look like the sort of person who will spend the rest of their life bragging about this hoping it will help them get laid and not realizing it's why they can't

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People should be careful in what they believe and trust. Musk created a belief long ago.

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feddit.nl

Ageism.

There's reasons why they suck, and it's not because of when they were born

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It is much more common for people who have only worked at 1 or 2 places, and who have not seen the impacts of changing economic cycles, to have less context and understanding of what is normal and acceptable.

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

People who are that young aren't very responsible and experienced yet. And irresponsible and inexperienced people shouldn't have huge responsibilities.

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25 isn't that young. 18 is good enough to join the military. It just doesn't track well and there is everything else about it to focus on that going on about their age is just like "that's all you got?"

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