J.D. Vance lashes out at Denmark: 'Not a good ally'
In an interview with Fox News Sunday, J.D. Vance that “it is possible” that the United States will take over Greenland.
At the same time, Donald Trump's vice president is lashing out at Denmark.
“There’s something that I think a lot of people don’t understand about Greenland. This is really important for our national security.”
“There are seaways that the Chinese and Russians use, and frankly, Denmark, which controls Greenland, does not do its job. It's not a good ally," J.D. Vance for Fox News.
“So you have to ask yourself how we should solve that problem, solve our national security, and if that means that we have to take more territorial interests in Greenland, that’s what President Trump will do, because he doesn’t care what the Europeans are crying out to us. He cares to put the interests of the American people first," J.D. continues. Vance.
The vice president of the United States also highlights another point that “people are not aware of.”
“There are probably 55,000 people living in Greenland who are not actually happy with the Danish government,” J.D. Vance.
“They have great natural resources there, they have an incredibly rich country that the Danes don’t let them develop and explore.”
"Donald Trump, of course, would have a different approach if he was Greenland's leader," the vice president said.
https://www.bt.dk/udland/jd-vance-langer-ud-efter-danmark-ikke-en-god-allieretOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
There’s something that I think a lot of people don’t understand about America. They're currently making a lot of unwise economic decisions and destabilizing the world. They're not a good ally.
So you have to ask yourself how we should solve that problem, solve our national security, and if that means that we have to invade the USA, that’s what [insert country here] should do. (Plus we can take their resources.)
I'd love to be liberated by Denmark
Not the worst choice. They're the second-happiest country in the world. They have freedom, look down on bigotry. They have nice pastry...
I was more referring to religion, discrimination, being open toward sexuality, reproductive rights, gender equality... But yeah,~~ you're right.~~ Immigration is a bit of a strange one. I forgot about that. And I lack the background knowledge to understand what's going on with that. Do they have some bad experience?
Or is this just the one big retreat left for being bigoted?I don't know what this other guy is talking about. Yeah Denmark have its problems like any other country. But straight up saying it's the kkk is just plain wrong.
Yeah, I figured I'd ask some follow up questions. Maybe they'd like to explain. I mean immigration seems to be a topic of concern in the banlieues of Paris and Stockholm for example. But I haven't heard of any severe, permanent issues in Denmark. Other than that they're more strict with immigration than for example where I live (Germany). But I have been to Denmark. And they're definitely not the KKK. Both the news and my personal experience say they're relatively egalitarian and liberal.
I read through some of his comments, and it seems like he is from Australia. He was probably just trying to "discuss" in bad faith. Also the comment was removed anyway.
Would you care to explain?
"There are probably 330,000,000 people living in The United States who are not actually happy with the American government,” J.D. Vance fails to admit.
The second the US attempts to take Greenland we’ll be sanctioned to oblivion by the treaty we helped create. It’s beyond humiliating, but absolutely necessary.
I certainly hope this is just big talk of a delusional megalomaniac who wants to be emperor and some vice president with an intellectual impairment chiming in to either please him and lick boots, or because this is some elaborate strategy to spread fear and ask way too much, and then get a better "compromise". But yeah, sad to see the civilized world becoming smaller. I hope we stay strong, don't give in and in the end the good will prevail. We're going to find out either way.
The amount of FUD is insane and I’m afraid people are gonna eat it all right up!
https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/new-poll-shows-overwhelming-majority-of-greenlanders-reject-trump
The US can just build more bases in Greenland, instead of closing them down. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base
I don’t think this is about national security. This is about exploiting the natural resources in Greenland.
It's fascist imperialism, because the US is a fascist dictatorship now, and should be treated as such.
The US is on a anti-democratic trajectory. But no, calling it a dictatorship, at this moment, is wrong.
Always has been, also for Denmark
This is not about natural resources or national security, but Russian influence in the US government, and trying to normalize imperialism.
That's ok, the ones who don't want to join will get deported as illegal immigrants once they barge in. That, or put into remote reservations in land nobody wants.
"Dump em in a crevasse, it'll spit them out in 10, 20 years"
Lmao, it's not the Danes that aren't letting the resources be explored, it's the Greenlanders themselves
Yup. Rare earth minerals are profitable, but ecologically apocalyptic. They don't want their island to become an ecological disaster zone.
They're not even profitable currently, given the arctic conditions. Greenland has been begging for outside investment for a decade, but it's just not viable.
Ironically, the Danish state might have wanted to invest, but are bound by a clause in out cooperation agreement (Selvstyreloven) which forbids Denmark from investing more in Greenland than they did when the agreement was signed in 2009. This clause was insisted on by the Greenlandic parliament, as they wanted to bind themselves to move more towards independence than cooperation with Denmark, but it's been a real problem when it comes to developing Greenland.
Like, the trouble Denmark had to go to in order to build an more modern airport on Greenland....
If we come away from this with our relationship intact (Greenland & Denmark), the Selvstyrelov needs to be renegotiated to allow more Danish investment into Greenlandic infrastructure and business.
Jesus that’s some scary dictator / aggressor ready talk, holy crap.
We're either going to see the EU/NATO lay flat while USA takes territory, or we're going to see USA annex and invade EU territory and be met with war.
Probably the former, but it won't be good.
Vance is also intentionally ignoring the fact that 85% of Greenlanders were negative to Americans seizing their country. He throws out the unhappy 55,000 Greenlanders speculation as if they haven't already been asked about the situation directly. He does not care what the Greenlanders think, he just wants to seize Greenland.
It's the same rhetoric that Russia has used to annex land. "They aren't happy, the people voted and supported us" and "they have always been Russian, the land was Russia's historically. We are just taking our land back"
Honestly I hope we'll see neither of those scenarios but in the hypothetical event of a US invasion, the EU project would fall apart if it wasn't met with a direct answer.
He keeps saying that USA has an interest in it because they have an interest in it.
There's no reasoning except for daddy Trump saying he wants it.
Well he did mention the resources..
The resources have not been mined because it's not financially feasible, yet.
China who are otherwise masters of long term planning discarded the idea about 15 years ago. They wanted to invest in Greenland by building airports and make a transport hub on Greenland for both cargo and passengers in exchange for mining permissions. They backed out because it's simply not a good business.
Despite the ice melting, it's going to take a long time for it to be worth the effort. Perhaps 30-50 years or so, assuming they're still worth anything in the future and if transport can be done cheaply by boats. Donald Trump would be long gone by then anyway.
Kid that wants to take everyone else's toys, after being told no by a grown-up: "I hate you! You're not my friend anymore!"
They are not doing their country right, so we have to take it over and fix it, says nation where eggs are prohibitively expensive.
And all 55.000 are sent to the mines
O no the 55k people not happy. How about the tens of millions in murica that are not happy or can Canada start taking those northern states?
As an European citizen, I prefer having Danish people as friend than US ones right now (and maybe for the next 4 years)... Reliable friends are always better than unreliable ones...
God, these fucking American politicians are the definition of vomit.
Fuckoff Vance.
The words "piss-stained lying sack of shit" are thrown around a lot these days.
...in some cases with an abundance of merit.
And this should explain very well, what the US understands to be an "ally".
Bro, in the US-Denmark relationship, you're saying WITH A STRAIGHT FACE that DENMARK is the problematic one? Bro.
Shut up Vance. Nobody cares what the vice says.
The Musk cuck wants attention too hahaha
Denmark might not be a good ally to the US in Mr Vance's bigoted little mind, but for what the US are to Denmark and Greenland, there is a far better term describing a state that wants to annex another state's territory: Enemy.
As an American citizen I can say that this dipshit freak only speaks for the dumbest among us. This guy's daddy is going to make America lose all its allies. So I don't think this loser should be talking about this subject.
I sincerely hate snow. It's boring. It's white. The sun reflecting off it can burn your retinas. It's wet. You have to wear your entire wardrobe, at the same time, and still be cold. It sticks to your face. It piles too high, you have to shovel it, just to start again, when you're just done.
But for this?
Get me a sled, a team of dogs and a club. I'm more than willing to go to Greenland and stand against the american invader to defend my fellow european.
Can I get to sample that weird cured shark while I'm there? Or am I getting my references mixed up?
The weird shark is an Iceland thing, although confusingly it is made from Greenland shark. It's called hákarl
I apologize for the confusion. The animals are also endangered, to what I know, right?
So... what else can I sample in Greenland? I'm fond of unusual cullinary.
No idea, I'm afraid! I only know hakarl because of the many videos of non-Icelanders trying it. I do hope someone that actually knows about Greenlandic cuisine can tell us a bit though, I'd like to learn too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenlandic_cuisine
Technically “an attack on one is an attack on all” would apply still, since the us would be attacking. Though I doubt the actual agreements are written so simply.
I think the closest thing to an example we have is the direct conflict between Turkey and Greece, though that occured over Cyprus which isn't NATO territory.
The "conflict" being Greece was run by a fascist junta that couped the Cyprian government in an annexation attempt, and Turkey fought back the way NATO should have done against the junta from the start.
(And then tried to keep it for themselves, as you do)
I'm not gonna comment on the conflict itself. Just stating that it is probably the closest example we have.
I think that’s the reason why NATO members have been at peace with each other since it started.
Sorry who is this person?
The one who likes to fuck his couch
We need European armed forces for yesterday
These next few decades will suck at least as much as the ones 100 years ago.
I get the feeling we'll let the fascists win this time.
Denmark needs nukes
But what would the Swedes do when the little pond freezes over next time!?
the US should just be honest and start calling their "allies" subs instead
What does the bit about the sea lanes even mean? What does he think the Danish are supposed to be doing?
As global warming increases the waters around Greenland will become more important strategically.
Violate UNCLOS obviously.
Clip from the interview on Fox
So, just because some residents aren't happy with Denmark, that means they would be happy with the USA? Lol.
Oh yeah, forgot about this guy. As did everybody else.
Strengthening the alliance by going onto a known propaganda lie factory with more lies and insults about them. Great strategy.
Sit down, Polievre.