Please, for the love of God, just stop giving him attention
Edit: Just to clarify, my stance here is not "ignore everything Trump." He has done and will do quite a lot of things that warrant attention and concern. He's also a serial liar and world class bullshitter. A human testament to the phrase, "actions speak louder than words." Donald Trump's political success has always hinged on the fact that people are quick to forget that. He's already working overtime to distract from the fact that the majority of his campaign promises were just lies and the sooner he can make the people who voted for him forget all the pie in the sky shit they were promised, the better.
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The office of a mad US president in spe threatening the EU, neighbours and a former colony with violence is newsworthy.
If it were any other US president it would certainly be newsworthy and incredibly alarming. But old Don, as we all know, is completely full of shit and just says things A.) because he's a fucking idiot and B.) to distract from what he's actually up to.
One cannot "fuck around and find out" in nuclear diplomacy. Threats are threats and relying on distraction theory here is denial.
Distraction theory may work domestically, but not in diplomacy. Well, unless there's evidence for something worse planned (compare Russia in the security council 2022-02-22).
What happened the last time he was president and made these threats?
Nothing.
He's a troll and world leaders know it. News outlets love him for the clicks.
This is the reason he won again. The “press” makes so much more money when they have tabloid fodder and reality tv drama. Remember how boring it was when the adults were running things in the first 2 years before campaign “season” started again? It was so nice.
"Nuking Hurricanes" is way more interesting than "inflation."
If his past performance + Project 2025 + Musk haven't combined to convince you that the first win was a surprise to everyone and his handlers are far more ready this time around, you are as deluded as those who voted for him.
Democrats spent four years trying not to piss off R too much by doing anything about Jan 06 (among other things), then 2 months trying to woo R votes
R spent four years getting ready for this, and are ready to tear shit down. Shit will go downhill rapidly after Jan 20.
He's worthy of our attention. Stupid and assholish or not, he's literally the most powerful man on the planet (aside from Elon Musk) right now.
Infighting among all those trying to deploy him as their personal attack dog is about the most hopeful thing we have right now.--
I agree. But that's not what the press is reporting on, is it?
They'll give him all the attention in the world. For the wrong reasons.
Ah fair point!
What he and guys administration does is newsworthy. What he says is really not, outside of the extremes.
That's stupid.
This is the bad thinking that must be extirpated at the root.
Shut the fuck up. You fucking moron. What happened the last time he was president? He tried to assassinate foreign leaders and was stopped by Mattis. He summoned his militia to the capitol and mounted an insurrection.
He's only a troll to you because that makes you feel better.
Stop it. Stop spreading your stupid ignorance.
Oh, he definitely does malign things that hurts both the US as a country and Earth as a whole... but not everything he says is indicative of what he does. If you simply take everything he says at face value, you will get so mired in bullshit that you won't be able to pull yourself out when something meaningful does happen.
That's stupid!
You haven't actually been paying attention. Every single time he says something, he's tried to do it.
The declaration of the possibility of the use of military force in Panama has to be taken at face value. Don't be a fucking moron.
It'll be ok. Take a breath.
It's the sane washing that needs to go. Stop normalizing the bad behavior of malignant narcissism and criminality.
But the denialism in OP needs to stop too and it has to be appropriate to call it STUPID. You can't ignore the malignancy when it's in the presidency and hope it will go away. Every single thing Trump says is serious and literal until someone in his administration stops him.
If you just sum it up as being stupid, you ignore the inherent nature of it.
It's intentionally stupid to make you pay attention to instead of anything truly meaningful. The political equivalent of saying something wrong on the internet just so some angry nerd comes along to correct you. He is stoking outrage for the sake of outrage, so that his bedfellows can capitalize on it, and he can mooch off them.
Your theory of attention management is stupid and bad.
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The difference for me personally is if news articles start with “Trump says“ or with "USA does“. I am very much done with the former, just to keep my mental health intact.
Dissociation and denial are understandable in times of despair. Sometimes, denial can fuel further despair though.
I don't think my disinterest in most of the things that fall out of Trumps mouthhole is a sign of denial. Most of these are outright lies, baseless accusations, exaggerations, narcissism, and pure hatred. I'm not obliged to let this affect my life. I'm also an EU citizen and as such I have a natural distance to US politics. (I know that the orange turd's actions have grave consequences for EU citizens too, to be clear, and this is something I can't ignore)
Our societies should in ernest gather the will to increase the distance to US politics. Plenty of countries have bad developments, but they don't affect us so substantially like US politics do.
The media should certainly respond to Trump's bullshit, but the response should be to ignore it and keep asking what his plans are to reduce prices, end inflation, and all the other impossible, contradictory promises he made to get the morons in this country to vote for him.
I swear it's just one dead cat after another with this guy. It's like someone is feeding him this nonsense to keep him busy, and by extension, the media and most of us.
That too. Good call, OP.
I encourage everyone to call non-news what it is - a distraction - until it's actually a thing that's happening. In the meantime, consider browsing the AP to read what's actually happening that's being masked by all this noise.
Trump is actually threatening to invade Panama, that's not just a 'distraction.'
Trump actually did try and lock Hillary Clinton up, it wasn't just bullshit.
I despise the extent to which denialism hides in believing that if we ignore or don't report on the facts of Trump's terrifying actions (speeches are actions) that will somehow improve the situation.
Yeah, all his campaign promises and bow he's working on Renaming the Gulf of Mexico because reasons and he's prepping to invade Greenland, apparently.
Fucking yes, stop making "were going to name it gulf of America", "make Canada the 51st state", "Texas is going to secede from the US" big news.
These are either distractions, attempts to control new cycles, political tools, or attempts to energize voter bases.
TX seceding is one of the oldest. Texas secession would all but nearly ensure the US never sees the election of another Republican president or significant political majority. It'd be political suicide. They'd lose dozens of electoral college votes, Congress people and more.
I think the word you are looking for is secede. But also you are right Texas will never succeed.
Yes, ty. Voice typing is bad lol
What's even more stupid is that we've already done this. We've already lived this stupid-ass reality, and the media made public apologies at the end, only to turn around and do the exact same thing again. I'll say one thing for trump, he's right that the media is a circus, and not something to blindly trust. That's probably the one and only time you'll hear me say trump was right about anything.
I’m glad someone else realized this too.
I realized something, ever since 2016 we have been trained by the media to constantly be outrage over words that may never become actions.
So now I only care if an action is made. All this “news” about trolls trolling the world is just a big nothing burger that you don’t need to know unless you actually work in politics.
I would go as far as to say it should become a rule on some news subs that a controversial figure saying something controversial is not news.
Ignorance is not a solution. I can ignore cars while walking across the street, but it's probably a bad idea since I might get hit. This motherfucker is going to affect the future of the planet, so all hands on deck, red alert, pay attention. The man is a criminal, he should be in prison, not running a country. I want him feeling like he's under a microscope with the whole world watching.
This is exactly why instead of expecting the media to evolve or adapt I encourage people to walk away from corporate news.
I'm not a zealot, so follow it if you like, just know that it has its own goals and one of them is to hook you on its crappy product and convince you that it is the sole arbiter of truth...when it's really stuffing its billionaire-sponsored narratives down your throat.
The reality is that if the news were in any way objective and about "the truth", it would steadily maintain reality-based positions over time, but it doesn't. It adapts based upon what its billionaire owners want and based upon the whims of the electorate -- all the while pretending that it does nothing to influence the whims of the electorate when it very clearly does.
The greatest conman the world has ever seen.
I've blocked all US magazines and other social media channels I can, and I'm so much better for it.
When the moron actually invades Canada I'm sure I'll hear about it in the news.
And, frankly, this magazine is on notice. If it starts being 100% US politics it's getting blocked as well. I have zero regrets about this new policy I'm implementing.
Um, what are you talking about?
Kbin/Mbin folks sometimes call communities magazines. They're threatening to block this comm.
TIL. ty
We can’t afford it. Your nation provides 90% of the electricity we consume and 60% of the crude oil we refine. We need your partnership more than he’ll ever admit, especially now that our grid is regionally strained by AI and EV adoption.
That is completely false. In 2023 the US generated 4257 TWh compared to Canada's 615 TWh. The US only had a net import of 19 TWh
Source https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world
You’re right. The source I used was from 2022, and we imported nearly a third of that in 2024.
Regardless, we need them more than Trump will admit.
Is the concept of invasion not clear?
You don't have to ask once you invaded.
Sure this is an unlikely scenario but saying Donald can't afford to lose a partnership by invading an allied country is not understanding the problem.
I’m referring to adverse diplomatic action. Invasion comes with its own set of financial consequences in the form of tariffs from NATO countries.
You say this like someone is going to change their behavior based on it. No one at all has regrets about you choosing to exercise the block early block often ethos of the fediverse. I salute your decision to control your own feed.
I'm sorry our politics is everywhere (sincerely) - I'm not going to stop talking about it though.
For me the ideal option on another topic was to hide or unsubscribe from all relevant channels after finding the one that does frequent summaries I can read from time to time. If Trump\Elon drama could've been reduced to one weekly summary with added context and factcheking that would probably erase the need to follow these news articles completely.
what are you talking about, hysterical attention grabbers are their meal ticket.
The problem is his friends own a lot of the media
They've been doing that non-stop for the past decade and made millions over millions from that
Do you really believe they'd stop today?
All media/journalism is struggling to make ends meet and no one in (real) media wants Trump to be in power. This cynical theory of the media is fucking stupid.
Oh yeah, they are indeed struggling to make ends meet which is exactly why they're doing this because THIS is what makes them money. Outrage sells so if they have to sell trump, they sell trump.
Is it cynical? I'm sure it is, it's also what it is
That's so fucking stupid! They're covering it because it's news!
That only works when he isnt the most powerful person in the fucking world
Who, Elon?
Exactly. I heard more about Trump with Biden in office than I did when he was president before.
Last time they didn't, we're in for at least 4 years of this.
I blocked Trump and Musk keywords in my Lemmy client and i feel so much less anger.
If they did that, they would have nothing to say.
Then they would have to report on the things he's actually doing and planning. Or report on his many failures.
I'm not seeing the downside here.
Like moths to an orange flame
Too late for that. Now its more about keeping track of madman with weapon. Not that i want to read anything involving the piss hitler though, it would be much better if there just was nothing pay attention to.
by about 8 and a half years
I agree with this take.
Strap in, with him actually in the White House it's going to get a lot worse.
Same goes for the Fediverse. Can't go on a single political instance anymore without many people just having to bring up the asshole's existence.
Same story posted from 3 different news agencies x every news and politics community on Lemmy = 🤢
How are you this stupid? You go to political instances and find the primary political figure of the president of the most powerful nation on earth being discussed and you're surprised? Upset?
How do you manage to articulate your viewpoint without realizing how stupid it is?
Someone wasn't loved when they were growing up.
Nah, I want him crazier and crazier. I want him to figure out how to act so batshit crazy that his own base keeps having to question themselves.
I don't think it'll happen, but I'll LOVE asking them to explain it away.
His base has long proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are immune to reflection, introspection, common decency and feelings of shame.
The guy is never going to run out of dead cats to grab headlines and avert attention from more important things.
My kingdom for ublock filter lines to remove posts with titles including "Trump" or "Musk"
Edit 2 days later: "Yourinstanceaddress - quotes"##.post-listing:has-text(Trump)
ie: biglemmowski.win##.post-listing:has-text(Musk)
Just don't look
I completely agree but it's a little hard for me to know exactly where to draw the line though. It's less hard for assholes profiting from his bile. They can print everything he says (and print money from that) and also stand on the flimsy argument that everything he says is newsworthy.
That was the path before the election. A lot of clickbait headlines linking to his platform that exposed his "alternate facts basis" for evil. Now the attitude won't make him go away anymore.
The thing is though his name in the spin machine is what he wants. There is an entire industry making money off that news. Its a post truth world my guy
You can't ignore the truth in order to banish the post-truth confusion. He gets his name in the spin machine because he won the presidency. Get used to it and don't pretend trying to hide from it is a successful strategy.
it's one thing if you need to check out of the news for your mental health but "don't feed the toddler attention" isn't a suitable approach to the presidency's use by the 78 year old whose orders will be taken seriously and literally.
The orange guy is the Kool-Aid Man of Overton's windows.
Yeah, ignore the president of USA. Great strategy
Did you even read the post?
I just wish social media wasn't focused on so much, when it comes to politicians and other high figures.
They should be posting statements of value on official websites and the like, yet instead a blimmin' tweet is the highlight of discussion time and time again. Why should I care? I'm not here to be friends with them.
If we waited for Trump to say something intelligent, we’d never heard from him again. Hmm…
It cant
I don't remember where I heard this, but it's stuck with me "Liberals take Trump literally and have never taken him seriously."
It's one of the stupidest most pathetic excuses downplaying the serious things Trump is saying. It's appropriate to take Trump seriously and literally.
You really fucking believe he wouldn't nuke a hurricane? Why would you believe that? He does all sorts of stupid things. Sometimes he's told no and the morons take it as evidence that he wasn't ever serious.
The incoming president has declared his intent to expand the borders of the US north and south. That's news. If you don't take that seriously and literally, you're just burying your head in the sand. Stop spreading this mindless denialism.
A lot of things he says, he's incapable of either doing or has the follow through of doing it. What a gross misreading of what I wrote. Your alarmism is a weak coping mechanism. Grow up.
You are fundamentally incorrect.
Ditto elon
Don't feed the trolls.
- Internet rule #1 since 1983.
Isn’t that exactly what you’re doing right now? The lack of self awareness is astounding.
Well, no, not the same thing. This is a meta critique.