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Elon Musk urges King Charles to dissolve Parliament—What can UK monarch do?

Summary

Elon Musk has called on King Charles III to dissolve the UK Parliament, citing past controversies involving Prime Minister Keir Starmer and the Rotherham Scandal.

Musk accused Starmer of inaction during his tenure as head of the Crown Prosecution Service and urged a new general election, drawing backlash for spreading misinformation.

Critics argue that the monarchy lacks the unilateral power to dissolve Parliament under the 2022 Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act.

Musk’s growing political involvement globally, including support for right-wing parties, has sparked calls for regulation against foreign interference.

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Critics argue that the monarchy lacks the unilateral power to dissolve Parliament under the 2022 Dissolution and Calling of Parliament Act.

Is that what "critics" argue about?
How about the massive South African white elephant in the room:

Why the fuck should Charles even acknowledge Musk's noises?

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lemmy.world

They're manufacturing consent for the plutocracy — that has always owned politics — instead of doing what one would expect in a democracy... bringing in a psychiatrist to explain the mental illness indicators Musk is very obviously displaying.

I wouldn't be surprised if he has a brain tumor. He's obviously fucked in the head in many more ways than one, and none of them are "normal".

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Valmondreply
lemmy.world

Too much money, like Michael Jackson and so many others.

Boatloads of drugs and yesmen too.

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Valmondreply
lemmy.world

Well do the usual drug enjoyer have the possibility to interfere in foreign politics?

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He’s obviously fucked in the head in many more ways than one

Aren't all leaders?

For politicians, it takes a particular mindset to think you're the solution to other people's problems and run for any election. I instantly distrust people who thrust themselves in the limelight and propose to rule others for their own good.

As for CEO's, it's very well known that a disturbing percentage of them display psychopathic traits.

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qyronreply
sopuli.xyz

Bleach. Preferably warm. Basic solutions are better at dissolving fatty tissues.

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Lye.

Has the benefit of making soap, so he'd finally be useful for something.

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cornsharkreply
lemmy.world

Musk: destabilizes world governments by giving a platform for extreme right wing views and interference in foreign affairs

Internet: lol cringe

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Agreeing with your summary of his actions and calling him cringey are not mutually exclusive

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Lanthanaereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ridicule is rhetorically effective against fascists. This has been historically well substantiated.

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

Don’t thee fascists usually end up being executed as well though?

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lemmy.world

I mean, if the king really wants to become beloved of the people he should indeed make a visit to parliament, and request they dissolve Musk's UK holdings.

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lemmy.world

There is a 23 billion blackhole in the budget so we're told. I think a one off tax of just 10% on Musk based on his total global net worth could be in order.

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ddplfreply
szmer.info

Bold of you to assume the royals care about the economy

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lemmy.world

Why is this reported on as if King Charles or anyone else in Britain should give a shit?

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BearGunreply
ttrpg.network

I mean, he is in control of the soon to be president of the US. Much as I hate it, other countries kinda do have to listen to him now.

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Capt. Wolfreply
lemmy.world

They really don't. At every step everyone needs to be telling him to shut the fuck up and mind his own goddamn business. Make things extremely uncomfortable for the overinflated little basement troll. Smear him across the globe.

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There will plenty of options for him to get his puppets in power in Europe too. But until then we really should tell him "stfu" as often as possible and as loudly as possible. And then we hope he has a fallout with Trump rather sooner than later, so he has to focus more on staying president in the US and has less time trying to meddle in our affairs here...

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Plus, he still has control of one of the leading social media networks. And that network still (inexplicably and frustratingly) had a lot of influence on people, and thus on Western politics.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

The US has no control over the UK other than being trade partners.

It is like your neighbor telling you to paint your house yellow. Would you do it just because your neighbor told you? No you wouldn't.

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BearGunreply
ttrpg.network

"Listen to" and "obey" are two very different concepts, not sure where you got that I'm suggesting they do what he wants.

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They don't have to listen to him, only to Trump and even then they still can dismiss anything he says.

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valkyre09reply
lemmy.world

Here’s something kinda cool about the Monarchy. The king can just decide that Musk’s interference is illegal and shut down Xitter in the UK would be kinda funny.

I’m not a fan of that approach, but at the same time you don’t ask cancer to leave your body, you cut that shit out!

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lemmy.world

The king has no real power. Real power lies with the prime minister since previous kings with the same name and the Glorious Revolution. He's a figurehead.

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lemmy.world

The word "theoretically" is doing a lot of lifting in that video. He said that the Queen is in important political figure, but that's incorrect. The monarchy in the UK survives by being apolitical and they all know that the day they start meddling in politics is the day when the royal family loses its one remaining role in the UK - ceremony. Their long standing popularity comes from the pomp and circumstance, and if they get mixed up in politics, they'll become deeply unpopular, just like everyone else who tells the British people what to do does in the end.

All the real power went in the civil war and the glorious revolution. Parliament decides who is the monarch. If the king went rogue, he'd be gone before you can say "that's not what we were looking for in the role of ceremonial figurehead."

"The Crown" actually includes, quite as a matter of law, the government and specifically the prime minister.

So all the stuff about signing laws isn't real power. It's not about whether it becomes law, it's about when it becomes law.

The King is The Sovereign, but he is not sovereign, Parliament is sovereign.

He embodies British power, but he doesn't wield it.

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Fascinating. I learned something new today! Thank you for taking the time to share :)

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towerfulreply
programming.dev

I hope he suggests musk seeks professional medical mental health.
Musk is not in a healthy position. Someone needs to reach out to him, so he gets help

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I wouldn't be surprised if he had long Covid clouding his brain, he started going loony not long after the first big covid wave in the US...

Used to be-

  • An introvert

  • Kept his opinions largely to himself outside some occasional jabs (ie. 'The trampoline is working!')

  • Intelligent

  • Supported universal health, free university and UBI

Post 2021 -

  • Very opinionated, but mostly not his opinions- those of other people.

  • Extroverted to a high level, constantly talking.

  • Dumb

  • No longer supports any of the left ideals he used to, now it's all full extreme-right.

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feddit.it

Surely all this ketamine consumption is shortening his life expectancy, right? Or he's going to live up to 99 years like most assholes?

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IsoSpandyreply
lemm.ee

Very sadly, this fucker may live well past 100. I cannot come close to describing to you how much extra awesome health care this rich fucks can get if they want. Want to know every week if there is a slightest possible chance of cancer? Get a weekly mri (doesn't even have radiation completely risk free). Want a customized dose of ketamine so that you don't od but get the best high? You got it. Want a leacher to grab all the by products of ketamine metabolism? Here's the pill.

Have you played Cyberpunk where the arasaka crapbag lives forever? We are actually paper thin distance away from it.

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_bacreply
lemmy.world

no medical advice matters if you dont listen to it...

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Most of the "good" are shit people too you just don't hear about their shittiness.

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Well, he has sausage fingers, but he can still do something like what Mummy likely would have done if some South African upstart tried to tell her what to do:

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lemmy.world

If someone luigi'd musk the US and the entire world would be better off. Somebody else can run his companies, probably do a better job, and not be an asshole while doing it.

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eronthreply
lemmy.world

The US might legit get worse unless there were several near-simultaneous Luigi events. We have a bad habit of using those types of situations to just increase big brother's overwatch and create more privacy/freedom invasions against the populous.

That said, if the US gets worse at the safety of everyone else's democracy... I'm willing to take that sacrifice.

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

People miss this point. There's hundreds, if not thousands of people in similar positions of using wealth to "influence" politics. They will use any event as an excuse to tighten the security state.

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As far as money goes, (according to the Forbes top list) Elon musk is by far the wealthiest individual in the states. Musk is at $244B and the next up is Bezos at $197B. There is a $47 billion gap between #1 and #2 in that list. And one of them is using their money for political gain much more than the others. The rat literally bought an entire social media platform to spew his own personal propaganda. The same rat who was on stage with Trump, and guess what, is now one of his top advisors. The ultra wealthy have invested insane amounts into political campaigns, but Musk is on another level.

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lemmy.world

It seems they're pushing society in a direction where more and more people will have nothing left to lose. Might be inevitable, how long it takes is the question.

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It seems they’re pushing society in a direction where more and more people will have nothing left to lose.

That's just the negative side effect (negative for them) of pushing society in a direction people will have nothing. But it's inevitable, and it's proof that the big capitalist lie based on infinite "growth" and exploitation will never work in the long term.

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If I was Charles, I'd offer Elon Musk a knighthood to piss him off.

Musk would have to choose between stoking his gigantic ego with the title at the cost of giving up any post in the federal government as per article I, section 9, clause 8 of the U.S. Constitution or humiliate himself and refuse the title to keep running the orange utan he's invested billions in.

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lemmy.world

I doubt that would work.

All Trump would do would be to make his post an unpaid advisory one and then he'd get to insist people call him Sir Elon.

It's not like he needs the paycheck or the benefits and he would love the ego boost.

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lemmy.zip

Or he'd just do exactly the same as he was going to do anyway, it's not like anyone stopped him hiring his own family members in blatant disregard for the law, why would this be any different?

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Very true. I keep saying the same thing about other things and I should have realized this applies as well.

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without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.

He'd just buy enough congress people to get it passed.

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He'd take the knighthood then have the rules changed to suit himself

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lemmy.world

I was going to make a joke about how King Charles should dissolve Elon in a vat of acid, but I'm not sure if that's comes off as promoting violence in our current climate of oligarchicide.

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Since this is advice given to a monarch by a person who otherwise has no impact on the rich and powerful, I'd argue you could call this a case of Jester's Privilege

We should bring that back. If nothing I do matters, then nothing I say matters, right?

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lemmy.world

It would definitely be skirting the line of what we would moderate, but I think we'd probably let it go just because it's a comic book villain ending rather than saying "shoot him in the head" or whatever.

Plus, it would obviously be a joke.

Edit: all I can picture is this, but with Elon's face on it.

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As a Brit I think Elon Musk should fuck off meddling in ours and other countries politics.

I also think that King Charles should dissolve the monarchy as it’s sickening to have such a thing in 2025.

People often say but tourism. The fact is France gets many more visitors a year than Britain and they got rid of their monarchy. We could make more turning Buckingham Palace into a bougie hotel for instance.

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I think Elon Musk should fuck off meddling in ours and other countries politics.

He illegally immigrated into the US, it's quite literally his MO

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feddit.uk

Can we get this man some help. Not saying he's not an absolute wanker - that's a given - but isn't anyone close to him concerned about his mental health?

He's fallen out with the leader of the far-right Reform UK now, because, apparently that frog-faced fuck Farage does have a line in the sand (at least for appearances' sake), and isn't comfortable with Musk's support for fascist thug "Tommy Robinson".

Hopefully this means no donation (bribe) to Reform UK, but I'm sure that piece of shit will continue to try and fuck with our democracy.

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The definition of "mental health" involves a determination about whether a person is capable of carrying on normal day to day functioning, which is very much up to the person in question to define.

Someone like Musk is rich enough that virtually no amount of inconvenience could stop him from carrying on as he wished.

So basically, people who have more money have less mental health problems by definition, and the notion of mental health has been used to imprison inconvenient poor people without trial since its inception.

Billionaires? Forget about it. They can surround themselves with sycophants and remove anyone they don't like from their presence. They can have people killed if they feel like it, and there's not a police body in the world who's going to touch them.

You need to forget the notion that they face any kind of accountability, from "friends" or otherwise.

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lemmy.world

I urge anyone with a bathtub full of acid to dissolve Elon Musk. It can also be an oil drum instead of a bathtub, or something else. I'm not too picky for that matter.

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Zorsithreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

He does seem to want to spread his genetics far and wide, what better way than explosives? (/s)

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Telling a king what to do sounds like a quick way to end up on the dungeon wall.

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He's looking for precident.

If they can say, look, they did it, we can too. Well now youve got an invitation to snag all the power you can.

Its projection.

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lemmy.world

Can he please stop sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Being a US president isn't enough. He wants to be the German chancellor and British PB now, too?

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feddit.uk

The US could wipe Holland off the map in a couple days without even leveraging it's entire military.

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feddit.uk

Whereas every Dutch person I’ve ever met knows the difference between “its” and “it’s”.

Despite English not being their first (and often not even their second or third) language.

Still, you carry on flexing about wiping bits of countries off the map, petal. It makes you look manly and cool.

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feddit.uk

You have misunderstood my comment.

My point was that ANT_EEY_ANKS was essentially calling the Dutch pussies for not suicideing themselves.

The Dutch bombing New York would be suicide

I am not American, I have nothing to flex about here.

But please, keep pointing out errant apostrophes rather than actually dealing with the subject in question. it definitely doesn't make you look like a pedant bore

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

People don't care. The context lets you know which it is.

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Yeah, because they were trying to nationbuild. if they had just decided to glass afghanistan (which is within their power to do) then they wouldnt have lost

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The yanks are pissed about this guy too. The problem is his boy won the election so nothing's going to happen on the official side for 4 years unless he falls out of favor.

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jacksilverreply
lemmy.world

I'm not sure anyone is really in control of Elon and many Americans would be happy if he just went away.

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The problem is that level of wealth should not be in anyone's hand. Elon is demonstrating why, but Elon shouldn't have been allowed to get into this position.

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Nah. Just quietly file a secret indictment and arrest warrant against Musk. Inevitably he'll forget about it and move on. Then a few years later, gallivanting about the world like billionaires do, he'll step foot in Britain on some random business. That's when you grab him. Arrest him then and put him on trial for violating various espionage and foreign interference laws.

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Telodzrumreply
lemmy.world

Just another Englishman with illusions of grandeur about the British economy and what it would mean for international commerce to avoid his tiny islands.

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kavareply
lemmy.world

Lots of discounted high tech military equipment that the UK gets from the nature of the "special relationship" between the two countries. For example

KS-1 Rifle, Barrett M82, M2 Browning, Remington Model 870, Claymore mines, FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank system. The MRAP Cougar, M270 launch rocket system, M1070 transport system, various different MTVRs, Apache attack helicopters, Desert Hawk III UAV, Switchblades, and much much more

The UK would also lose their top export market (accounting for more than 2x the exports they send to the next runner up, Germany) and their 2nd largest import market (65B pounds to Germany's 75B pounds)

Reality is the UK made their choice. They want to be in the bed with the US. Whatever Washington says, they'll do. And that means more economic integration and more military integration.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Ah, so useless war equipment that actively makes the world a worse place.

Great job US.

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It's a mixed bag actually. Charles 2 did it successfully but only because he essentially had a popular mandate to do so. (Parliament kept trying to do an Inquisition of Catholics, and people were unamused.)

James 2 tried to follow that act and was deposed in 3 years. So mileage may vary.

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Best thing chuck can do is ignore the gnat until it gets near enough to swat

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We have the Houses (plural) of Parliament. The fully elected House of Commons and then the, uh, not really elected House of Lords.

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So, technically, the monarchy signed over the majority of executive power to Parliament with the Parliament Act 1911 which gives authority over taxation and budgets to Parliament.

But bills do also technically still require Royal Assent, which has not been withheld since 1708.

So... the Crown COULD try to force an impasse where nothing can pass without their approval, but then Parliament COULD make the Crown live off canned beans.

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Oh it's simple. If the king wants the UK to follow his last french counterpart's fate, this would be a romantically dramatic way of doing this.

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lemmy.world

Set date for a 'LONDON TEslA PARTY' and throw all those shitty cars into harbor!

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