Elon Musk doubles down on his support for Germany’s ultra-right party
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I did nazi that coming
The president is a Nazi. My grandpa would be rolling in his grave.
My grandpa should be rolling in his recliner. Instead he's got fox news on all day.
The sad thing is that your grandfathers were sent to fight and die in Europe only when it hurt America's economic interests.
This isn't a knock on your grandfather's legacy.
Hitler literally modelled his policies after the American ones, but it's easier to talk about an absolute evil that sprouted out of nowhere.
Is this the new Russian taking point?
We're going to ignore Pearl Harbor?
We're going to say we're worse than the Nazis exterminating millions of people and performing live medical experiments on people?
How do you feel about NATO?
Black Americans were experimented on till 1972, for god's sake. Get off your white horse and realize that America's been wading oceans of blood.
Shocking.
Remember when he used to say he was a socialist? And literal morons believed him? It might have been when I realized how stupid and easily swayed most of the population is with obvious and blatant propaganda.
He also said he was a "free speech absolutist." Then he banned the guy who showed the publicly available info about the location of Elon's private plane. Then he banned the reporters who reported on that.
And that's how he started down the road to Twitter as it is now.
That's even more tame, currently he was banning MAGA people for not agreeing with his stance on H1B.
Yep, he's gotten more and more ban-happy over time.
I still think he got the word "absolutist" mixed up with "abolitionist".
He is a socialist! He supports the National Socialist German Workers Party!
He told it in a joky-way actually, so people that read his surrounding tweets knew he wasn't without even knowing his politics.
Lots of people believed it though.
I'm exhausted from all of this and it's not even January. How have we reached a point where Nazism is back in vogue?
Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.
And those who do get to watch dolefully.
The story of the 21st century has been the repeated and ongoing failure of the western political class.
Early 20th century we had the influenza pandemic where a certain part of the population refused to wash hands and wear masks. It also saw the rise of Nazis.
Early 21th century we had a covid pandemic where a certain part of the population refused to wash hands and wear masks. It also saw the rise of Nazis.
History sure loves to repeat itself.
by choice, they are intentionally failing
I wonder if Musk's heavy right wing position is one of:
He gathered the wealth and realized his life is empty and people still cringed when he walked in a room and left in disgust when he spoke. In general, folks on the left, who were more associated with tech until recently, are typically more educated and don't blindly cheer at catch phrases and bumper stickers without any depth in their support - The right wing does.
elon wants friends and a dad who will love him, the right wing will pretend as long as the money flows.
I disagree that tech is more left wing, a lot of them are very religious - evangelical or Mormon or believe in ultra capitalistic Ayn Rand fantasies.
You missed my comment
He's really just that brain damaged. A couple of weeks ago I read a book about his takeover of Twitter and even his day-to-day behaviors are completely unhinged. He is surrounded by sycophants and weirdos and has lost touch with reality years ago.
The book is "Character Limit" by Conger and Mac.
I wanted to read that book, so is it worth? Do you recommend it?
Yeah, it's really great journalistic work. The authors talked to a lot of people to get their side of what happened.
My local library has it on an app called Libby. You might be able to check it out that way to see if you're into it. :)
Corporations are often the most authoritarian structures on the earth. We just tolerate them for dumb reasons (being told there's no alternative to capitalism).
While those might be reasons, he has claimed its because of his trans daughter. It's a pretty disgusting stance.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/09/elon-musks-journey-from-humanitarian-to-poster-of-rightwing-memes
Emphasis mine below
I was in the market for a new car. And Tesla was not even on my long list of cars to consider, precisely because of Herr Sturmbahnführer Musk.
Tesla sales is down in Europe precisely because of Musk while competitors thrived.
He was never really liberal, but he had a nasty divorce and went mask off because of it. Same thing happened to Scott Adams. Adams was never really pro worker. He just repeated the stories people would send him and kept doing it because he liked the attention, causing a feedback loop. Musk had that going with the EVs and Mars mission talks. But he kept getting criticism over dates being missed and the divorce cracked him. He then started seeking approval from a less scrupulous group.
I won't be happy until every article headline written about space Karen refers to him as Adrian Dittmann.
I am doubling down on my dislike for this NAZI.
The free world is being torn to peices by the Russian Mafia and its American Oligarch allies.
I'm not optimistic enough to count on it, but upcoming events might just show a lot of white rural voters that across the board the leaders of these racist movements mostly aren't even really racist, it's mostly a grift for profit/power and they're just exploiting the poor's ignorance
I'd love to have your optimism.
There have been multiple investigations into finances and employees of high ranking party officials linking them to foreign influence. Changes in popularity? Niet.
It's the same as with Trump: "Yes, he us a crook, but he is MY crook"!
A lot of it is definitely racism with Trump. Can't have possibly voted for the black woman...
Hey, they didn't vote for the white woman either!
Look, if you're "not racist" but are willing to allow or use racism as a means to an end, you're actually pretty frickin' racist.
All the same harm is done.
"But I don't believe it in my heart!"
Wonderful. Do something that mitigates all the harm you're causing if not improve the lives of the people who are being harmed.
Can't do that because it would undermine your process? Time to accept it. You're a racist.
They are still racist they just don't care about poor people whatever the color of their skin
Remember when Kanye "went away" after pro-Hitler comments?
Let's see if Musky goes all the way.
Edit: a ? mark
Did he really go away? Or was he just ignored enough?
Nazi apartheid baby
Fascists gonna fash.
This article is still about the recent Welt op-ed. Just so nobody gets the impression, that Elon did something else yesterday.
Not that any of this excuses the opinions he shared with the world already.
The AfD ist a spark of hope for him, as they want to leave the EU so one less country he doesn't have to worry about EU rules and regulations.
And Germany is the most influential and richest EU country at the moment, so the loss of Germany will be a heavy blow for the EU.
It's not going to be a heavy blow, it's going to be disastrous. Not only because of the economy, but the infrastructure the country provides. A massive amount of goods is transported through germany on rails and on streets. If we have to start controlling borders and charging money (which is what will happen), it would hurt the entire european union. Now, if italy with it's rightoid government is having the same idea and leaves the EU (because that's kinda what rightoids do these days), europe is literally halved in the middle.
Idk why people think leaving the EU is going to solve our problems, it's going to literally fuck us in the ass. We can even see what happened with a country that left the EU not even 10 years ago.
Yeah the U.K is currently an Exhibit A for "See why this was a terrible idea?!"
It's amazing how these people repeatedly bark for their billionaire masters thinking one day they'll be worthy of scraps.
These far right populist parties would probably leave the EU, if majority of Europeans want to leave. But the majority of Europeans want to remain. What the far-right European parties do instead is adopt the narrative of "fortress Europe", that immigration should be restrictive and Europe remain "largely European".
It's kinda hard to dispel the richest man in the words narrative when he also owns a major social network
Are they aware he only supports xenophobia with regard to blue collar immigrants?
I hope we collectively realize, to a point of action, that this is Hitler but also the richest person in the world with fans everywhere for multiple reasons before we instead have to document further atrocities.
Edit: And him and his presidential bitch are juvenile with at least one with intelligence to match.
Extremist's gonna extreme.
American spotted. Opinion rejected.
Only a recent American.
This Some More News episode is well worth a watch. “Nazi sympathiser Elon Musk’s Hitler problem”
https://youtu.be/xDyPSKLy5E4
🎶 Just a pair of Hitler fanboys, preparing to enter the white house 🎶
I can't believe it just clicked for me that we shouldn't be watching out for the "next Hitler" (which I was getting ready to assign to trump based on the past 9 years) but a group of fetishizing copycats.
Reminds me a bit of how Robert E. Lee and much of the confederacy saw themselves as real-life Misérables (https://boundarystones.weta.org/2019/05/13/how-les-miserables-became-lees-miserables).
The common point between Lee, Hitler, and the Misérables is they were all lost causes in the end (thankfully). Hopefully today's regressive shit-stains-of-a-human-being will go the same way.
That's a broken link, probably the broken link format. The good link is:
https://boundarystones.weta.org/2019/05/13/how-les-miserables-became-lees-miserables
Thanks
Done you mean adrian dittmann?
Why are his nose and ears so red in that picture? Was this taken outside in winter or something?
I wouldn't see it too tragic. Those who would support AfD already do, and the rest won't change the mind because of an article written in a lunatic's name. If he threw considerable amount of money at AfD, I'd get a bit concerned, but in a functional multi-party democracy, especially one with a nazi past, a nazi party would never be invited into a government unless it won an outright majority.
counterpoint: Donald Trump
The key phrase is "multi-party democracy". I guess I should have also added "parliamentary" into that phrase. Political systems with a single winner are far more prone to electoral manipulation than systems where a coalition government is the norm.