Spyke
lemmy.world

I sympathize with the bottom part so much. My parents absolutely refused to cook anything ever and bought the worst, most unhealthy prepackaged foods from the grocery stores. I spent the first years of my life thinking that things like apples just weren't sold at my local Kroger because we never had them. I felt like shit mentally and physically for pretty much the first 18 years of my life because of it.

I grew up, moved out, and holy shit I love eating "rabbit food," as my dad used to call it and I never would have learned before is that cooking is fun

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

Did you to wish you could fuck your friends mom‽

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lemmy.world

Yes but that was irrelevant because she never cooked for me, she was just hot. Still is, in fact.

We always joke that he has a Wine Mom. He thinks that we're calling her a drunk. It means that she gets better with age.

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lemmy.world

Man I was tormented with that crap as a kid. “HOLY CRAP YOUR SISTER IS HOT!!! That’s your mommmmmm? Whoa!”

Same crap with my sister.

I see them both as living farts.

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Bobreply

I had a running joke with this lad in school where he'd say "your sister's fit" and I'd punch him in the arm. No idea why we did it or how it stayed so friendly. Just remembered it for the first time in maybe 20 years. Thanks!

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The good news is if your mother and sister are attractive, There's decent odds your good looking as well. Unless your mother fucked an ogre, and if that's so... Well at least Shrek's your dad?

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lemmy.world

I’m not ugly, but I’m the least attractive member of my family.

My brother looked like a Greek god, my sister looked like a model. My dad was so sought after that his name was spray painted all over our town with hearts and love confessions. Bridges, buildings, love for him was everywhere. He was chased by women aged 18-90.

I was born with crossed eyes and had to have a corrective surgery. Every man in my family is over 6ft tall and I’m only 5’7. I still randomly message my mother to thank her for going through with the surgery.

I definitely lost the lottery, but it could have been worse.

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Well incase no one has told you that you are attractive lately, you're fucking beautiful man. May every road rise up to meet you

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

Well now we need to see pictures of your hot mom and hot sis so we can judge for ourselves in the name of science and research.

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lemy.lol

We all did. The hot moms anyway. The big milfy moms, I just wanted them to make me some food.

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I feel you. I weirdly did have vegetables and things growing up, but my mom self admittedly hates cooking. So most of what we ate consisted of casseroles made up of things dumped out of a can and any veggies likely also came from a can and we're heated up on the stove. She also over cooked all the meat to make sure people wouldn't get sick. So all the veggies were bland and mushy and all the meat was dry as fuck. I'll never forget the first time I ate fresh pineapple at my inlaws house and it was one of the best things I ever tasted. I'm pretty good at cooking now and I've managed to help my mom improve in all ways as well. She now uses a meat thermometer that I got her for Christmas. I cooked her some fresh broccoli in a pan with salt, pepper, and garlic powder and she loved it and started making hers that way instead of boiling it. Baby steps, but we're making progress.

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aidenreply
lemm.ee

Rabbit food? What the fuck

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lemmy.world

Some dudes live their whole lives afraid their balls will fall off and roll away if they eat anything but brown meat.

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sopuli.xyz

Hey, c'mon, there's all kinds of dudes that love going to town on some brown meat.

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anarchristreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

In the 90s people started suggesting eating veggies occasionally and the American populace reacted predictably, i.e. as if someone were threatening to literally emasculate them.

Kind of like the modern anti-vax/anti-mask freaks.

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I've heard it be said from many men that I knew growing up that the more processed food is, the better, because it kills all the germs that come out of the ground. I've not seen that man eat anything green that wasn't on top of a fast food cheeseburger in all my years alive.

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lemmy.world

broccoli is like anal sex… if you’re forced to have it as a kid, you’re not gonna like it as an adult

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I guess I should be happy I like broccoli. Here I always thought people just didn't care for the smell, like brussel sprouts and anal apparently

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lemmy.world

The "kids don't like broccoli" has a scientific reason. Kids have a lot more receptors for aromas tasting bitter (10 to 15k different chemical compounds taste bitter to them) which reduce to 5k or less when growing up. So some types of food that adults can eat without problems because they lack the receptors have bitter and vile flavours for kids.

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Drintreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Plant breeders have also been busy reducing bitterness/tannins in various vegetables like brussel sprouts and canola oil, so things are in fact less bitter than 30 years ago.

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I'm mostly familiar with animal feed, where nutritional quality weighs quite heavy during selection. For human consumption I assume there are some base nutritional standards when applying to enter the market with a new breed, but might heavily depend on your region.

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Brussels Sprouts are another one... I don't think I had properly cooked Brussels sprouts until I was in my mid-to-late-20s, and they've become one of my favorite vegetables. They're so fucking good dude.

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dalekcaanreply
lemm.ee

Doesn't help a lot of people used to just boil broccoli without seasoning. Doesn't do the flavor any favors.

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My stepmother was that way so I couldn't stand broccoli growing up. Most vegetables were blan and tasteless without salt and boiled.

I rarely buy them now because I can't physically handle cooking every day now. So most vegetables go bad in the fridge.

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Dhs92reply
programming.dev

That's interesting. Do you have any sources on this phenomenon?

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lemmy.world

I always assumed this is also why adults love disgusting cheese (I do to a degree as well nowadays). We just lost our sense of taste and call it refined taste.

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Treczoksreply
lemmy.world

The "losing taste" is actually a beneficial thing. Most things that kids don't like are either risky (e.g. coffee) or difficult to digest (all kinds of cabbage), so it is good that kids don't like them. For adults being able to expand acceess to available foods helps feeding the horde in difficult times.

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lemm.ee

Broccoli is so good it makes me horny too. I fucking love broccoli.

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zoutreply
fedia.io

But, do you love fucking broccoli?

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Sippy Cupreply
lemmy.world

What happens at the farmers market stays at the farmers market

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

I'm not kink shaming but if you fuck the broccoli you better not leave it at the farmers market. You take that shit home with you afterwards.

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Sippy Cupreply
lemmy.world

Your statement creates a paradox. You must sacrifice a partition to Windows or risk Steve Jobs visiting you in the night.

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Broccoli, cauliflower, and green beans we (brother and I) were always fine with as kids. It was the asparagus and spinach I never cared for as a kid. Turned out it wasn't the spinach's fault, my mother would just buy bags of frozen spinach, put it in a microwave safe container and turn it on. So if tasted bad. As I learned to cook I started to like it as I actually used it in other ways. Asparagus though... I rarely give a chance, and usually if I do I'm frying it in bacon grease which defeats the purpose of eating a vegetable I feel.

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Both my kids favorite veggie was broccoli when they were small. I'd prepare it the way you'd get it in an Italian restaurant - small parts of it just bleached for a short time, so it stays firm, served with nice olive oil and salt. (And a bit of lemon, if I have it on hand)

Broccoli (like so many veggies) tastes awful when overcooked into a soft and mushy consistency (and then it also changes its taste in a bad way).

Here in Germany grandmas typically are amazing cooks, with the sole exception when they cooked veggies. That generation loved their vegs really soft and overcooked.

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This shows some really nice attention to detail.

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lemmy.world

Fun Fact, if broccoli kinda tastes like soap to you, congratulations! You have a gene variation that makes certain bitter flavors taste like soap, it's stronger in childhood (which is potentially why "Kids hate broccoli" trope is a thing) and tends to fade into adulthood, but not always.

There are also studies being done to figure out specifically which compounds in broccoli make it taste like that to cultivate it out to encourage more broccoli consumption

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Glad to see some scientific stuff under a "I would fuck his mom for serving broccoli" content.

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Are you saying that I might stop hating coriander when I retire? But I really like broccoli, so maybe it's a different kind of soap gene...

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I hate having this gene variant, so many things taste bad. People judge you, it's hard to order at restaurants, etc.

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lemmy.world

Broccoli tossed in olive oil, cooked in an air fryer until crispy and then sprinkled with course salt. Delicious 👌🏼

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Crashumbcreply
lemmy.world

So going to try that!

My recent go to ( not broccoli though) is toss some fresh spinach in a pan with oil and hit it with lemon pepper seasoning and a little lemon juice.

Takes like 5 including prep if you don't mind the stalks.

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Do people not like spinach stalks? It's like my favorite part... adds a tiny bit of crunch/texture.

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I thought broccoli only got softer when cooked. Does this work if you don't have an air fryer and you fry it in a pan?

Now I'm wondering what would it would taste like to marinade broccoli in butter and garlic then took them out and put them in a dehydrator to make them into chips

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TORFdot0reply
lemmy.world

Just cut into bite size pieces, toss it in oil, salt and pepper it, put it on a baking sheet and roast at 425 for around 20 minutes. Don’t fry it in a pan. It will be delicious

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This is the way, never liked broccoli until I learned to make it like this. I love adding different seasonings too depending on the flavor profile of the meal - curry and ginger powder for indian dishes, cajun seasoning if you like spicy, or garlic/lemon/italian seasoning.

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Strange 403 is access denied I believe. If your using a VPN maybe change to another location. I'm in the U.S. Switched mine to the UK and France and both worked. I use Spain a lot do to their laws on Piracy. (Legal unless used for profit)

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danreply
upvote.au

Air fryers are closer to impingement ovens than convection (fan-forced) ovens.

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They're not that common in residential environments. More common at businesses.

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lemmy.cafe

Broccoli and cheese is awesome. Other preparations like steamed are not as delicious, but ymmv.

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lemmy.world

Steamed broccoli + garlic salt, just dont overdo the brocc until it's mushy

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MudManreply
fedia.io

I think that's where the reputation comes from. Overcooked broccoli is inedible, and I know people who refuse to leave any bite to it at all, which seems insane.

I feel like crunchy, fresh broccoli is a relatively new trend. I found out about it on my own, at my place as a kid it always looked like green boogers and tasted the way you imagine that would.

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discuss.online

I think it used to have to be cooked to hell because in the past it legitimately didn't taste as good as it does now. Selective breeding has taken a lot of bitterness out of many vegetables.

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It got cooked to hell because most people can't cook and that's what they know. If anything broccoli tasted the better in the 80s, because it wasn't as maximized for shipping.

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MudManreply
fedia.io

I don't know, man, this was the 80s and 90s, it's not that long ago. It still tastes like I remember if you overcook it.

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MudManreply
fedia.io

Yeah, no, it's not that it isn't enough time, it's that I've been eating broccoli and beans all this time, I would have noticed.

I mean, we all noticed the tomatoes becoming water balloons, it's not like it'd be unheard of.

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Vegetable breeders for the veggies that you get in a normal grocery store don't typically select for tastiness/flavor, they select for things that can maximize profits - hardiness, shipability, production, etc.

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That and canned veggies. Don't know if it's because we were low income or if produce was just a lot more expensive back in the 80s and 90s. But, I remember eating a shit ton of canned "mixed vegetables" at my house and at friends houses.

My mom was a good cook, but I feel like we didn't get a lot of fresh veggies unless we were living on a military base where the groceries were subsidized.

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My mom used to have a microwave cookbook and would make most veggies in the microwave oven. This cemented my love for crunchy cooked vegetables. I can't eat green beans in a restaurant because most of the time they are almost the consistency of porridge.

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Steamed is my default method of cooking broccoli.

I cut the stalk up for soup and pasta. Then I lightly steam the florets and I like it.

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In almost all cases, I frankly detest steamed vegetables. Probably due to my grandmother steaming the absolute piss out of ANY vegetable when we visited. My mother didn’t overcook them nearly as bad, but to this day I just don’t enjoy the flavor of any vegetable steamed nearly as much as I do roasted in the oven. High heat + short time + delicious, crisp, lightly charred goodness

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I mean... yeah. But after you hit thirty and you can have all the milfs you want. It's free moms.

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lemmy.world

Many years ago my kids pediatrician recommended feeding the kids kale smoothies. I didn't have any Kale at home so I cooked bunch of broccoli to mush and mixed it with bananas. Those kids eat half a pound of broccoli for breakfast just about every day now. They also eat it raw or crunchy cooked. Definitely the best medical advice I've ever gotten and the kids are used to a very simple and quick to make breakfast that keeps them full for hours.

Tldr: Kids constantly surprise me and sometimes they like vegetables.

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blackrisreply
discuss.tchncs.de

In what way is „kale smoothies“ a medical advice and why would you designate it as the best, if you didn't even follow it and used different vegetables?

This comment is so over the top weird, I feel like I missed the joke here.

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lemmy.world

It's medical advice because it came from a doctor in a professional setting when we were discussing how to get more iron in their diets since we don't eat many fortified foods. Kale and broccoli are close enough nutritionally to be swapped if one is just looking for the vitamins and minerals. Lastly, It the longest I've ever continuously followed a recommendation and it has made my life way easier. That makes it the best advice I've gotten.

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pawb.social

Broccoli rules, one of my favorite veggies, along with carrots and fresh green beans.

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piefed.social

Broccoli is like green tofu. It tastes like whatever you cook it in. There is perhaps no other food which has more surface area for holding sauce or seasoning.

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Yeah I was going to say this. Cauliflower is like the "plain" version of broccoli lol

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0opsreply

That's my favourite thing about broccoli - I take a bite from the bushy part and get an explosion of flavor

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lemmy.zip

vegetables in general and tasting bad is moreso lack of preparation/cooking rather than the actual thing itself most of the time. Brusselsprouts is the polarizing one where its seen the most.

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discuss.online

It's because traditionally bitter vegetables have been selectively bred to taste better. The brussel sprouts and broccoli your parents had were very different than what we have today.

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socsareply
piefed.social

Honestly I'm still pretty skeptical of this factoid. The Brussel sprouts now taste pretty similar to the ones I had in the 80s and 90s when cooked the same way. The whole "Brussel sprouts taste new" feels like some industry marketing to me.

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discuss.online

Your memory of what something tasted like 30 years ago probably isn't super accurate. It's a fact that they've been selectively bred over the last few decades to taste better.

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socsareply
piefed.social

I mean wouldn't that also apply to everyone who thinks they taste better? And why would they have only started trying to make them taste good recently?

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If you've been eating broccoli throughout the whole selective breeding process, then the flavor change would have been subtle enough that you don't realize there's been a change at all. If you ate them side by side, the difference would be noticeable.

It's not too different from Jim adding nickels to Dwight's phone, then suddenly removing them.

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If something tastes slightly different every few times you have it you're probably not going to notice a difference over 30-40 years.

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absGeekNZreply
lemmy.nz

Maybe, but brussel sprouts still taste like shit.

Broccoli is and always has been really good, if cooked correctly.

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Brussel sprouts are so easy to make good as well, just put them in the oven at like 400 with some oil and a bit of salt

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My theory on this is that some of the hate for a lot of vegetables comes from either eating canned ones or poorly cooked ones. My girlfriend didn't know she liked green beans until she started living with my family and my father made her some. My dad sautéed the in butter with garlic, and she only had ever had those extremely mushy canned ones and had concluded on that basis she hated green beans.

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9point6reply
lemmy.world

If you ever feel like giving it another go, try roasting it up with the florets coated in some olive oil, crushed garlic, salt, pepper and a bit of smoky paprika if you've got it around

I guarantee it'll at least be the best version you've had

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Sounds like it’s overripe.

You want tight purple tinged buds, not loose yellowing ones.

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Nice to read about a person that so appreciated the kindness of another that they were willing to extend a kindness to them

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programming.dev

There are just a ton of foods that input in my mouth that immediately make me feel like I'm going to vomit. I really hate it.

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Snowclonereply
lemmy.world

Did you get sick a lot as a kid? Like long term, not just related to food?

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TheOakTreereply
lemm.ee

I think they're asking because you can develop taste aversion by eating something and getting sick (even if the sickness is completely unrelated).

My sister got H1N1 when it was proliferating, and she had a box of nilla wafers before the symptoms started hitting hard. Now she inexplicably can't eat a single nilla wafer.

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Ohhh. No, I think it's because my parents didn't make me try many foods when I was young and then once they began it was the big ordeal of never letting me leave the table until I tried some. Many times I would wait them out because things just disgusted me that much.

I'd still describe myself as a pretty "picky eater" and I loathe trying anything new in public, but I've gotten a lot better and I have pickier friends too now. (It helps not being the most picky lol.)

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Yeah, I can no longer eat beets. Which I loved growing up, but ate a bit, got sick unrelated and I can't even think about them too much without aversion kicking in. It really does suck.

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If you are a super taster, broccoli taste like grass smells. At least for me and my daughter. Its so bitter that I threw up one time when I was a kid being forced to eat it. So lets accept that to someone with a lesser/different sense of taste/smell its okay. To those of us who can smell when someone has been in their house five hours after they left it taste completely different. So no thanks I don't want to eat grass.

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Sternreply
lemmy.world

Do you think that your special taste buds not liking broccoli are so widespread that they've made not liking broccoli a common cartoon trope?

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Special? Its like a disability. I don't know about the like or dislike but I'm pretty sure super tasters are not that common.

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KuroiKazereply
lemmy.world

Fellow super taster though it's more like a curse. It also extends to wine, beer, coffee, onions, and numerous other things because my sense of bitter is too strong.

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Its definitely a curse. The only positive is I don't eat bad food. I've watched people eat food that had gone bad telling me I was imagining things. I've also smugly handed out some I told you so to people who promptly got sick.

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TheOakTreereply
lemm.ee

How do you find out if you are a supertaster? I'm curious because growing up I couldn't stomach any vegetable that was bitter. Broccoli, brussel sprouts, celery, etc. were enough to make me gag just from the flavor. Nowadays, I can cope with the bitterness by focusing on other flavors and textures but I've definitely been in positions where I have a single bite of celery and then can't muster up the courage to eat for a solid hour.

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I don't think I've ever been diagnosed other than the fact that I can smell things others can't. I can smell when people are sick. Cancer has a smell. I sometimes I encounter people and don't know what the smell is but know they are sick. I can smell cockroaches in a house. Even if you can't see them I can smell them in the walls. All in all I would choose to have just a regular sense of smell since many perfumes and those damned plug in air freshener just smell like noxious chemicals to me. Its just like walking in a room and someone is screaming. Only I'm the only one there that can hear it. Not fun.

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susreply
programming.dev

Bacon is a superfood

Raw potatoes are a superfood

Poppy seeds are a superfood

Vodka is a superfood

*because superfood is a meaningless marketing term

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