I was given so much stuff when I bought my house. My one aunt had a shopping addiction and just gave me all of the kitchen shit. I live alon and my house is too small and laid out too weird for me to comfortably have guests. Idk what to do with everything, so it just stays in a cabinet. I don't want to throw it out because it's nice, but I have no use for it
Me too, the shape is just so perfect for so many things. I bought some recently at the Vietnamese market nearby. They have fancy little roses surrounded by a filigree pattern printed on them and say "English" on the handle in some Victorian-looking cursive font lmao. I love them.
Dude I'm 38 soon and I have to bring dishes in from the WFH office once in a while. Watching some YouTube during lunch or whatever. Then back to working. Then family comes home and it's up out of the chair to start dinner and whatnot, sometimes the dishes get forgotten and left behind.
Yeah, I can understand that. That's normal. But a 19 year old eating alone in their room so much, and collecting all of the dishes in the household, so the family has none and has to actively seek them out and ask for them is what's odd to me.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make it sound like that 19 year old isn't poorly raised. They definitely are poorly raised. I just meant to say I'm not too far off myself. 😅
No worries, I think a lot of us have these periods in our lives where we neglect stuff like this at times. Just the 19 year old living at home and hoarding dirty dishes seems to hit different when they need to be asked to bring them out and they're still living with their parents.
I see, but my butler grants advantage on all reactions within a 5ft radius when performing the “Set Table Feat”, I know that applies to cordially invited enemies as well but the de-buff technically only says “applies to enemies” so I think that means he gets to roll a flat 20 but I will need a ruling from the DM.
Well in fancy restaurants, which should be the example we all follow because of how much better than us they are, the knife is always pointed in towards the plate and closest to the plate. This reduces odds of getting cut accidentally. Otherwise the silverware should be arranged from the outside to the inside in order that they're meant to be used for each course because trying to truck your guests is a signal that you want to embarrass them with knowledge they aren't generally expected to actually have. Spoons and forks should be grouped.
Alphabetical order based on what language? Assuming English, since your comment is in English, but I'm curious if the rule would "translate" to other languages.
Indeed. Though my mother was quadrilingual and attempted to help me be at least bilingual, the only language in which I know more than a few words - written or spoken - is American English. As such, I'm not qualified to answer how diverse this system is, though I would be interested in hearing from someone who is.
Not to say etiquette isn't arbitrary, but the two top results (all I bothered to check) for my search about silverware placement suggests that the "correct" order is fork on the left, knife first on the right, then spoon furthest right. This is, indeed, alphabetical order.
So while it may be arbitrary, it isn't arbitrary on an individual level.
I was so bad at keeping on top of washing my dishes in Uni that I absolutely decided to have exactly 1 plate, cup, mug,and each cutlery. Can't have more dirty dishes than you have dishes.
Just don't leave them in the sink and you can do the same with multiple of each, saving you the wash up. Just out them straight into the dishwasher. Saves energy, water and time.
Been travelling in an RV for a while now. Family of 3. Have 3 forks, 2 knives (because adults cut the kid's food) and 4 plates since you need somewhere to put food off the BBQ that isn't someone's plate. It's glorious. So easy to clean up.
Unless they have enough plates and utensils and are willing to risk a mold problem to save up plates with gunks of food over the course of a week to run the dishwasher at good efficiency, it's far simpler, cheaper, and more hygienic to just wash them by hand.
In hindsight I should have used "or" instead of "and".
But of course! I really miss having a dishwasher since I flew back home from the US. I know that they absolutely do a better job at cleaning than humans can, and loading it up properly and keeping it organized is such dopamine hit for my OCD brain.
If you live alone, though, I'd advise against using it, or at least get a way smaller dishwasher.
you can honestly get by with just a spoon. need a butter knife? use the spoon handle. need to jab something? just scoop it instead. need to cut something? just cook it a little more so it gets soft
Did they borrow these from a restaurant. I just find it more menacing to just buy 1 of each,
searched online and I can’t find a single reasonably priced utensil set that only sells 1 of each in the set.
The pictured method forces disipline.
Honestly a tub of alcohol wipes in the kitchen and a quick wipe down with one of those works pretty well for cutlery
I did that a few times - not in one sitting but just eating pie as my only food for a couple days (I'm not a big eater). I remember standing in line at Albertson's in my early 20s, seeing a rack of peach pies and suddenly realizing I could just buy one for myself. I was an adult. I could get a whole pie and eat as much of it as I wanted. Another time I ate almost nothing but Cap'n Crunch all weekend. A friend of mine had a summer job at a pizza place where she got to take home one pizza per day. She put them in her freezer and lived on pizza all summer, zero grocery expenses.
I made a cake last night to get rid of a few eggs. Realized I am slipping back into batchelor life when I just put the whole thing on a plate, put one utensil on it, And put the whole thing back in the fridge. Healthy.. probably not .. any of it. But not having to look for a clean utensil every time is nice. The sad part is it was a spoon I grabbed, not because I thought it would double for ice cream if I wanted some... But because it was closer
I have my own hens out back... So I give away a dozen to my neighbors weekly, on either side because they free roam and I have to many Currently about 4 dozen on the counter. Messier than usual, started a new job working far away and a lot more hard labor than I'm used to, so I've basically done fuck all to keep things managed around here as I get into a routine. Thankfully when you are 1 person, you only have to clean 1 pot, 1 fork, and 1 plate usually. (Edit: forgot to add, 1 good silicone/rubber/? Hybrid temperature resistant spoon, I always hated the plastic ones and visited my mother a year ago and she had them, just place it over the top of the pot no matter how hot, no issues. Worried about sauce getting on the stove, just leave the fucker in the pot, not sure what it's made of, but I intend to reuse it till I die and hopefully pass the fucker on so it doesn't go in a ditch)
Seems inefficient having to wash everything every time? Not sure. But it would irritate me to have to do that rather than doing more, once, at the end of the day.
I just rinse them and use a bit of hand soap, so it takes like ten seconds. Personally, I usually prefer that over spending an extended period of time washing the dishes, because my neck starts to hurt, since I'm too tall for the kitchen sink.
My other half has to do every dish even if we don’t need to, I do everything when there’s enough for a full load in the washer. She’s happy to have nothing needing to do, I’m happy to have the satisfaction of the efficiency of doing the most work in the shortest time.
I've got 2 of everything just in case. Dirty dishes can't pile up if they don't exist.
You underestimate some of us
You underestimate yourself. You'll get this.
I have a giant stack of plates. So they can go into the dish washer after I use them. Same thing with boxer shorts and the laundry.
Also to support any surprise guests!
I was given so much stuff when I bought my house. My one aunt had a shopping addiction and just gave me all of the kitchen shit. I live alon and my house is too small and laid out too weird for me to comfortably have guests. Idk what to do with everything, so it just stays in a cabinet. I don't want to throw it out because it's nice, but I have no use for it
If you can't sell it you might be able to donate it to a thrift store.
Excuse me, it goes: Fork->Knife->Spoon->tea spoon.
I don't know what this is but it's certainly not in keeping with the lord's way.
Right chopstick -> left chopstick -> porcelain soup spoon -> packets of unused plastic foldable forks that came with the instant noodles
Do chopsticks have an orientation?
Yes, but their orientation is none of your business.
Yeah just like Twix.
does the left chopstick also taste better?
God, I love Asian soup apoons!
Me too, the shape is just so perfect for so many things. I bought some recently at the Vietnamese market nearby. They have fancy little roses surrounded by a filigree pattern printed on them and say "English" on the handle in some Victorian-looking cursive font lmao. I love them.
Finnish mnemonic: Haaveilu. Haarukka=fork, veitsi=knife, lusikka=spoon.
Haaveilu=daydreaming, reverie
Personally, I prefer dessert spoon, fork, knife, then tea spoon.
I think you've swapped knife and fork…
What the actual fuck!? The knives always go on the outside, far left or far right.
We're a family of three with a 19 year old, so our cutlery drawer looks just like this unless we ask him to bring all the dishes from his room.
F'realz
That struggle is real and universal! We found utensils buried in our back yard, at a friend’s house… it’s nuts!
He's 19 years old, and you have to ask him to bring his dirty dishes out from his room because he is leaving them all in there?
Dude I'm 38 soon and I have to bring dishes in from the WFH office once in a while. Watching some YouTube during lunch or whatever. Then back to working. Then family comes home and it's up out of the chair to start dinner and whatnot, sometimes the dishes get forgotten and left behind.
Yeah, I can understand that. That's normal. But a 19 year old eating alone in their room so much, and collecting all of the dishes in the household, so the family has none and has to actively seek them out and ask for them is what's odd to me.
Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make it sound like that 19 year old isn't poorly raised. They definitely are poorly raised. I just meant to say I'm not too far off myself. 😅
No worries, I think a lot of us have these periods in our lives where we neglect stuff like this at times. Just the 19 year old living at home and hoarding dirty dishes seems to hit different when they need to be asked to bring them out and they're still living with their parents.
Knife should be on the left and the spoons on the right. Fite me.
You think I'm worried about fighting someone that has to reach over the gentry silverware to grab the knife?
This is a valid argument and I'd hoped nobody would mention it. 😡
What if they are a lefty?
Even match, The winner goes to the defender assuming lair advantage.
I see, but my butler grants advantage on all reactions within a 5ft radius when performing the “Set Table Feat”, I know that applies to cordially invited enemies as well but the de-buff technically only says “applies to enemies” so I think that means he gets to roll a flat 20 but I will need a ruling from the DM.
The fight would have been mine if it wasn't for the meddling buttler, you only had one knife to steal.
No, No, No, it says right here you may use the Fork as an improvised weapon without your Dexterity modifier with disadvantage.
It wouldn't be in character. I already went for the knife. Don't want to meta game.
My fork is pointier than the butter knives! I'll stab you!
Fork, knife, spoon, teaspoon
Well in fancy restaurants, which should be the example we all follow because of how much better than us they are, the knife is always pointed in towards the plate and closest to the plate. This reduces odds of getting cut accidentally. Otherwise the silverware should be arranged from the outside to the inside in order that they're meant to be used for each course because trying to truck your guests is a signal that you want to embarrass them with knowledge they aren't generally expected to actually have. Spoons and forks should be grouped.
Fite! Fite!
I don't know how it applies to cutlery drawers, but my parents taught me that when setting the table, the silverware should be in alphabetical order.
Alphabetical order based on what language? Assuming English, since your comment is in English, but I'm curious if the rule would "translate" to other languages.
Changing language can't change what's right. I think I win this one.
Indeed. Though my mother was quadrilingual and attempted to help me be at least bilingual, the only language in which I know more than a few words - written or spoken - is American English. As such, I'm not qualified to answer how diverse this system is, though I would be interested in hearing from someone who is.
Ewwww arbitrary!
Not to say etiquette isn't arbitrary, but the two top results (all I bothered to check) for my search about silverware placement suggests that the "correct" order is fork on the left, knife first on the right, then spoon furthest right. This is, indeed, alphabetical order.
So while it may be arbitrary, it isn't arbitrary on an individual level.
If I ever put my phone in my left pocket, I will lose my mind looking for it.
I was so bad at keeping on top of washing my dishes in Uni that I absolutely decided to have exactly 1 plate, cup, mug,and each cutlery. Can't have more dirty dishes than you have dishes.
This is the way. Friends think I really like this one bowl. Truth is I like an empty sink, so I force myself to wash it by only owning one bowl.
I just recently got rid of 90% of my silverware and over half my plates and bowls for this very reason
Just don't leave them in the sink and you can do the same with multiple of each, saving you the wash up. Just out them straight into the dishwasher. Saves energy, water and time.
Been travelling in an RV for a while now. Family of 3. Have 3 forks, 2 knives (because adults cut the kid's food) and 4 plates since you need somewhere to put food off the BBQ that isn't someone's plate. It's glorious. So easy to clean up.
See, if I had that guys place you would find these 4 utensils in the sink because I'm a monster
He dishwashes daily? How inefficient.
Unless they have enough plates and utensils and are willing to risk a mold problem to save up plates with gunks of food over the course of a week to run the dishwasher at good efficiency, it's far simpler, cheaper, and more hygienic to just wash them by hand.
In that amount, yes. But usually, dishwasher is more efficient and hygienic
In hindsight I should have used "or" instead of "and".
But of course! I really miss having a dishwasher since I flew back home from the US. I know that they absolutely do a better job at cleaning than humans can, and loading it up properly and keeping it organized is such dopamine hit for my OCD brain.
If you live alone, though, I'd advise against using it, or at least get a way smaller dishwasher.
I did this for a few years and it was amazing.
as a single dad living with one teenager kid, the two plate strategy was a total game changer.
OP is a fancy one with their actual silverware. When i was a bachelor, it was box of plastic forks, box of plastic spoons, and box of plastic knives.
Saving up for singular silverware would probably save you money in the long run
I usually get them from take out places or the cafeteria. Never bought any single use items during my bachelor years.
And less microplastics
And less trash to take care of.
it's not even silver, more like stainless steel around here.
Same here. My poitn being you can get a fork knife and spoon for under 5 bucks. Saves on the single use cutlery.
you can honestly get by with just a spoon. need a butter knife? use the spoon handle. need to jab something? just scoop it instead. need to cut something? just cook it a little more so it gets soft
Did they borrow these from a restaurant. I just find it more menacing to just buy 1 of each, searched online and I can’t find a single reasonably priced utensil set that only sells 1 of each in the set.
2 words: Thrift. Shop.
Walmart sometimes sells utensils individually in store, they're loose in bins with a little plastic price barcode attached
In some Europe countries the all Chinese shops offer that option
Dollar stores sell singles
lol two spoons and a fork, what a waste. i only use one spoon for everything.
edit: ooh i get it now, they have a significant other who sometimes visits. (big spoon, small spoon)
Sometimes I use a small spoon for ice cream. Big spoon for cereal though I'm not fuckin around.
I have 4 of each just in case I don't feel like doing the dishes today
The pictured method forces disipline. Honestly a tub of alcohol wipes in the kitchen and a quick wipe down with one of those works pretty well for cutlery
Don't most sets come with 4?
You cannot convince me this man is not a serial killer.
Replace the fork and spoon with a spork.
Fewer utensils to clean!
I doubt that people use both at the same time so each time you only clean one of them anyway
No pie server - what kind of barbarian is this?
They live alone, why have a pie server if you are just gonna eat it yourself?
For when that special someone comes over. Of course if you have a special someone you'd have 2 sets of silverware. Okay I see the point.
They are more likely to be just eating the whole pie in one sitting, too.
I did that a few times - not in one sitting but just eating pie as my only food for a couple days (I'm not a big eater). I remember standing in line at Albertson's in my early 20s, seeing a rack of peach pies and suddenly realizing I could just buy one for myself. I was an adult. I could get a whole pie and eat as much of it as I wanted. Another time I ate almost nothing but Cap'n Crunch all weekend. A friend of mine had a summer job at a pizza place where she got to take home one pizza per day. She put them in her freezer and lived on pizza all summer, zero grocery expenses.
Oh, I have had more than one "I am gonna just sit here and eat this whole thing" nights.
I made a cake last night to get rid of a few eggs. Realized I am slipping back into batchelor life when I just put the whole thing on a plate, put one utensil on it, And put the whole thing back in the fridge. Healthy.. probably not .. any of it. But not having to look for a clean utensil every time is nice. The sad part is it was a spoon I grabbed, not because I thought it would double for ice cream if I wanted some... But because it was closer
As long as it isn't a sink full of nasty dishes, and a PC surrounded by plates, cups, and empty cans, you are good.
And yet, to get rid of a few eggs you made cake, where others would just make eggs. We are not worthy!!!
I have my own hens out back... So I give away a dozen to my neighbors weekly, on either side because they free roam and I have to many Currently about 4 dozen on the counter. Messier than usual, started a new job working far away and a lot more hard labor than I'm used to, so I've basically done fuck all to keep things managed around here as I get into a routine. Thankfully when you are 1 person, you only have to clean 1 pot, 1 fork, and 1 plate usually. (Edit: forgot to add, 1 good silicone/rubber/? Hybrid temperature resistant spoon, I always hated the plastic ones and visited my mother a year ago and she had them, just place it over the top of the pot no matter how hot, no issues. Worried about sauce getting on the stove, just leave the fucker in the pot, not sure what it's made of, but I intend to reuse it till I die and hopefully pass the fucker on so it doesn't go in a ditch)
Holy crap, if I had that many eggs I'd probably eat eggs benedict with hollandaise every morning - cholesterol be damned!
Where do you live /s
Seattle!
This is me. It's perfectly fine until something, somehow, goes missing.
premature optimisation
It happens sometimes.
Dude clearly not a big fan of steak.
Maybe it's in their knife block.
I’m picturing a knife block that only has one slot for a single knife.
Or maybe they wear it on their belt, like this:
That's more than enough. I've survived for long with just a knife and a fork. A good knife works as a second fork.
It's all he needs
I actually love this. It’s clean organized and simplified!
He is not your friend, he is just keeping you around for a time when he can't find some else and feels the urge to kill again.
He never has dishes
Been there done that
I did this once, it was bliss.
Is your friend Bill Dauterive?
One too many spoons but perfect otherwise.
The large one is for scooping ice cream into the bowl. The little one is for eating it.
Nooo, one is a teaspoon and the other a tablespoon! It's for measuring!
yeah, the legt space should be replaced with a sharp knife for vegetables
They probably have a knife block with a single knife as well
What, you never have yogurt or tea with your morning oatmeal? Or are you a heathen that uses the same spoon for both?
I would probably get rid of everything but the fork and try to disprove that old you can’t eat soup with a fork joke.
One of my kids eats noodles w/ a spoon. Everything is possible.
Spoon cardinality.
I mean it at least forces you to do your dishes
Seems inefficient having to wash everything every time? Not sure. But it would irritate me to have to do that rather than doing more, once, at the end of the day.
I just rinse them and use a bit of hand soap, so it takes like ten seconds. Personally, I usually prefer that over spending an extended period of time washing the dishes, because my neck starts to hurt, since I'm too tall for the kitchen sink.
To each their own.
My other half has to do every dish even if we don’t need to, I do everything when there’s enough for a full load in the washer. She’s happy to have nothing needing to do, I’m happy to have the satisfaction of the efficiency of doing the most work in the shortest time.
We’re all different.
Sometimes you need more than one teaspoon during a meal? Say if you have soup and tea and hate to eat soup with the tablespoon.
That's one beautiful teaspoon
That would make sense, it's the only ones iv ever bought so I wouldn't know
I have one fork and nothing else lol.
Not a fan of soup or cereal?
Serial killer vibe intensifies.
dont worry id only ever serialkill ceos. its the new cool