The steam deck does seem like a good device for "bedtime" browsing.
More seriously, this data is probably less biased toward tech literate users than most similar surveys that get published here. This is really encouraging
The thing is Linux doesn't need to topple Windows. Linux just needs a big enough market share for companies to go "maybe we should also offer official support for Linux?"
Although... at risk of being in the picture, we don't know the mobile vs. desktop change. It could be that Windows is just dying more slowly than Mac OS (and ChromeOS, probably because schools block porn).
They can see what website you go to, and how much data you exchange with it, but not what specific page on that site you're looking at or what specific data you send (for example my ISP can't tell that I'm making this specific comment).
Hypothesis: Pornhub is effected by a lot of the bans in places like Texas. I don't see ChromeOS or Apple users as the kind of folks who know how to find their ways around those bans, but Windows and Linux users are more likely to via VPNs and such.
I understand that but I wasn't about to go full English teacher on people. Maybe it's condescending, but when speaking in public or online, I prefer to explain things in a simplified way that the general public can understand. My girlfriend likes to accuse me of mansplaining; I won't argue that it is an incorrect assessment.
I've gotten really good with the weird grammar rules and exceptions, all of the "there, their, they're" situations, etc. in English, but effect/affect is one that I always second guess myself on for some reason.
I had the same thought! Lol, on reddit I'd lay ideas like this out and get an ocean of "Reeeeee!" in response to it from Apple fans. But I think it's very true.
Posted above but I will put it here for visibility also.
Texas is the largest state to be affected by the pornhub ban, and Texas makes up 9% of the US population. Including all 12 of the states with pornhub restrictions, the total is actually 24% of the US population. Those are big enough numbers to swing stats.
Now you have to consider which users are more likely to know how to use a VPN on their system and realize that a lot of traffic is being re-routed through other states and countries.
That's not true. Texas is the largest state to be affected by the pornhub ban, and Texas makes up 9% of the US population. Including all 1216 of the states with pornhub restrictions, the total is actually 24% of the US population. Those are big enough numbers to swing stats.
Now you have to consider which users are more likely to know how to use a VPN on their system and realize that a lot of traffic is being re-routed through other states and countries.
My source was a map posted to Reddit in July 2024. However after doing more research, Wikipedia reports it is now actually 16 states.
Emphasis mine:
February 2024: the Attorney General of the state of Texas sued Aylo/Pornhub for allegedly not obeying the state's legal age verification law.[141][142][143] As of March 2024, Pornhub and other Aylo-owned websites have blocked access in Texas, due to the adoption of an age verification law which usually mandates age verification through the use of an identity document. In states where Pornhub is blocked, which also include Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Utah, Virginia, Florida, Nebraska, Indiana, Kansas, Idaho, Kentucky, and Oklahoma; a message is displayed featuring pornstar Cherie DeVille criticizing such laws.[
You're way off. In November 2024 iOS only made up 56% of the current market share. In October, android and iOS nearly achieved parity with one another.
Worldwide, Android holds 71% of the market share. I wonder if this will change if and when Chinese companies gain traction with their own alternative OS's, though.
Is the huge shift shift from iOS to Android to the fact iPhone users are typically less tech savvy, so places that banned porn hub (like Texas) effectively banned those users, who also weren't savvy enough to use a VPN?
Stuff like BSD, Minix, maybe some curios individuals on Solaris? For mobile, Symbian, Windows Mobile?
Also, probably all that don't report their OS in the user agent.
Bar graph of absolute percentages before & after overlaid. For example, a darker outline rectangle for 2023 and a lighter filled rectangle for 2024. Or just two rectangles next to each other, as lots of business charts do.
So it would still be a bar graph. I thought your argument was that it wasn't the right type of graph for this dataset, not that you disagreed with the dataset used in the first place. I agree that the one you proposed is easier to understood, but I don't really agree that using it like they did is improper. It is certainly useful if you want to save space.
Let's say 2 people used TempleOS, Symbian, MS-DOS or some other extremely weird thing to load the website in 2023 and then 42 in 2024 because it gets referenced in a porn video or something. The relative increase bar of 2000% would dwarf the changes in major OSs' usage even though the absolute number is miniscule in comparison. Yes, they get lumped into "other" but this kind of discrepancy is already happening with the somewhat exaggerated Linux increase: Windows actually gained 3x more users than Linux did in absolute terms but the Linux bar is 3x bigger.
A line graph shows proportional change over time inherently. "50% growth" isn't something that ever justifies being presented as the focus of a graph of any sort.
Or you can stop using a website that exploits women but sure. I thought Linux users have more than two neurons firing off. get your hand out of your pants and back on the keybord, there's PRs to do!
Dude, this is capitalism. Everyone is being exploited. I don't know that the PornHub, or the company that owns them, is any worse than any other large corporation.
The steam deck does seem like a good device for "bedtime" browsing.
More seriously, this data is probably less biased toward tech literate users than most similar surveys that get published here. This is really encouraging
Lets get past 7% next year ;)
let's aim for 6.9%
Nice
Let's aim for 69%
You missed again! Now I gotta clean all thus percentage off my eyeball!
Finally, 2025 will be the year of the Linux desktop
I'm doing my part!
It's a little heavy to hold 1 handed for that long.
That's what you get the kickstand attachment for
The year of the Linux desktop!
Dammit, you beat me to it
Dammit, you beat meat to it!
Valve is about to make this happen.
The most compelling evidence I've ever seen for the elusive "year of the Linux Desktop".
Indeed.
Also great evidence that Windows is not dying, no matter what the Linux fanboys claim.
The thing is Linux doesn't need to topple Windows. Linux just needs a big enough market share for companies to go "maybe we should also offer official support for Linux?"
Oh god, don't say that. You're going to summon them. I'm getting out of here...
Yeah, that part is sad.
Although... at risk of being in the picture, we don't know the mobile vs. desktop change. It could be that Windows is just dying more slowly than Mac OS (and ChromeOS, probably because schools block porn).
Thanks!
Interesting, so phone browsing actually went down. I now have no idea why Windows is doing so well. Doesn't everyone hate the new release?
Windows' growth is double the absolute percentage of Linux's total even with its growth.
It's essentially the year of "Not Apple."
Always pornhub
Guilty as charged.
I'm counting on it.
A better, more factual, reminder is that if you're not using a VPN, your ISP is recording all of that, and potentially selling that information.
This is not fear mongering, like the comment I'm replying to. It's very real.
They can see what website you go to, and how much data you exchange with it, but not what specific page on that site you're looking at or what specific data you send (for example my ISP can't tell that I'm making this specific comment).
Provided the site is using SSL of course.
iirc, in the EU its illegal for isps to collect or sell data.
I hope he likes my taste
Hypothesis: Pornhub is effected by a lot of the bans in places like Texas. I don't see ChromeOS or Apple users as the kind of folks who know how to find their ways around those bans, but Windows and Linux users are more likely to via VPNs and such.
Affected*. I don't think special effects are involved.
Effect is a perfectly fine verb. It's wrong in this case, but it doesn't imply the use of special effects.
I understand that but I wasn't about to go full English teacher on people. Maybe it's condescending, but when speaking in public or online, I prefer to explain things in a simplified way that the general public can understand. My girlfriend likes to accuse me of mansplaining; I won't argue that it is an incorrect assessment.
"Affect" is a word we can deprecate because all it's for is umm actuallying. It goes in the same box as "inflammable" and "cleanse".
I've gotten really good with the weird grammar rules and exceptions, all of the "there, their, they're" situations, etc. in English, but effect/affect is one that I always second guess myself on for some reason.
You say that but I added after effects to the money shot. (It's confetti).
I see what you mean but it doesn’t take much to download a VPN app and hit the big green button
Possibly a factor, but I don't think a quarter of Apple users are affected by those bans.
I had the same thought! Lol, on reddit I'd lay ideas like this out and get an ocean of "Reeeeee!" in response to it from Apple fans. But I think it's very true.
Posted above but I will put it here for visibility also.
Texas is the largest state to be affected by the pornhub ban, and Texas makes up 9% of the US population. Including all 12 of the states with pornhub restrictions, the total is actually 24% of the US population. Those are big enough numbers to swing stats.
Now you have to consider which users are more likely to know how to use a VPN on their system and realize that a lot of traffic is being re-routed through other states and countries.
0.4% Other: BSD-BDSM
BMSD is now KinkOS.
The Kink Desktop Environment is my favorite.
I bet I know it'll be number one under Linux.
What will be number one under Linux?
They didn't miss-type, Linux is going to be the porn. Just Linux fans waning off to Linux.
Either hentai, furrys or femboys.
I bet it's all three at the same time.
Overwatch Futa
Proves linux users are sexual deviants
Pornhub is pretty vanilla
not even that, a lot of stuff on there is effectively just reality TV and just makes me die inside when i see the thumbnails
Same with most only fans content I find on twitter. Holy mother of fake enthusiasm...
Who knew this would be the year Linux on the wankoff.
sad to see the 3ds isn't on there this year
Those are supposed to be for homework...
ChromeOS is for the internet and the internet is for porn. Ergo, vis-a-vis, concordantly...
Anatomy & physiology research
Your school administrator is watching with you!
All the iPhone users can afford OnlyFans.
jokes aside it's probably because of US states banning porn sites, and Apple makes up for like 80% of US phones
Yeah, except the states dumb enough to ban porn only have like 1% of the US population.
That's not true. Texas is the largest state to be affected by the pornhub ban, and Texas makes up 9% of the US population. Including all
1216 of the states with pornhub restrictions, the total is actually 24% of the US population. Those are big enough numbers to swing stats.Now you have to consider which users are more likely to know how to use a VPN on their system and realize that a lot of traffic is being re-routed through other states and countries.
Where are you getting 12 from? I'm seeing 8.
You're correct, though. As far as I can tell, nearly a quarter of all Americans are geographically blocked from Pornhub (unless they use a VPN).
My source was a map posted to Reddit in July 2024. However after doing more research, Wikipedia reports it is now actually 16 states.
Emphasis mine:
Maybe those guys watched a lot of porn last year?
I ran this through an AI, so take it with a grain of salt... But the percentage is actually, ostensibly, 24.6%.
That's more then enough to explain the descrepencies in the data.
Edit: The work ChatGPT showed, in case this is wrong.
Texas: 30.5 million
Florida: 22.6 million
Virginia: 8.7 million
Indiana: 6.8 million
Louisiana: 4.6 million
Mississippi: 2.9 million
Arkansas: 3.0 million
Utah: 3.4 million
Total population = 82.5 million
The total U.S. population is approximately 335 million.
You're way off. In November 2024 iOS only made up 56% of the current market share. In October, android and iOS nearly achieved parity with one another.
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/united-states-of-america
Worldwide, Android holds 71% of the market share. I wonder if this will change if and when Chinese companies gain traction with their own alternative OS's, though.
How? Id imagine they broke after purchasing their $900 monitor stand
Or iphone users are only a small percentage of phone users?
This graph isn't US-centric and Android is a lot more popular in the world. The US is the skewed one here.
6.9% when?
The beatings will continue, even after morale has improved!!
I'm doing my part!
The hangings will continue until productivity returns to normal levels
My operating system:
My pecker:
Is the huge shift shift from iOS to Android to the fact iPhone users are typically less tech savvy, so places that banned porn hub (like Texas) effectively banned those users, who also weren't savvy enough to use a VPN?
I was going to suggest the cost of living crisis has made people adopt more reasonably priced phone options
Which doesn't include any of the kids those moronic laws are purported to protect.
It’s the year of the Linux desktop!!!
I'm really curious as to what OSs comprise those "Other", both for desktop and mobile
TempleOS
That'd sinful!
God would stop the video from playing if he didn't approve
You can nut right into the ice maker.
Stuff like BSD, Minix, maybe some curios individuals on Solaris? For mobile, Symbian, Windows Mobile? Also, probably all that don't report their OS in the user agent.
For the desktop maybe Haiku and Plan9 as well. I don't know if those would be more or less popular than Minix and Solaris though.
Plan 9
Probably things like TVs and set top boxes.
I’d be curious to compare this with total internet usage shares
The internet penetration rate is 67.4% at this time
That's an entire 67.4% higher than my penetration rate percentage.
Apple is slipping.
0,4% of desktop users come form Solaris?
0.0002% come from Plan 9, somehow.
No one with "that's me" and "furiously masturbating"?
Arch actually.
Vrooom go OSS!
I don't like how the bar graphs, obviously supposed to show percentage points, actually show relative percent change.
What graph works better to show relative percentage change?
Bar graph of absolute percentages before & after overlaid. For example, a darker outline rectangle for 2023 and a lighter filled rectangle for 2024. Or just two rectangles next to each other, as lots of business charts do.
So it would still be a bar graph. I thought your argument was that it wasn't the right type of graph for this dataset, not that you disagreed with the dataset used in the first place. I agree that the one you proposed is easier to understood, but I don't really agree that using it like they did is improper. It is certainly useful if you want to save space.
Let's say 2 people used TempleOS, Symbian, MS-DOS or some other extremely weird thing to load the website in 2023 and then 42 in 2024 because it gets referenced in a porn video or something. The relative increase bar of 2000% would dwarf the changes in major OSs' usage even though the absolute number is miniscule in comparison. Yes, they get lumped into "other" but this kind of discrepancy is already happening with the somewhat exaggerated Linux increase: Windows actually gained 3x more users than Linux did in absolute terms but the Linux bar is 3x bigger.
Yeah, that's a good point.
A line graph shows proportional change over time inherently. "50% growth" isn't something that ever justifies being presented as the focus of a graph of any sort.
Haha hello anon
Conclusion: People with linux fuck.
People with Linux *rub~
Sometimes, occasionally, even other people.
According to statcounter WE are currently at 4.03% market share.
Sorry, I think extra 1% is me rubbing more than one out a day.
Now adjust it for total market share of the OSs and you'll arrive at the conclusion, everybody wanks equally.
I'm curious about mobile vs desktop.
Yeah. I suspect most of the desktop platforms are shrinking. Maybe even all of them.
Pornhub wrapped, haha. I do appreciate the stats, though.
Forget grow by 0.5, we need to grow by 1.8%!
Or you can stop using a website that exploits women but sure. I thought Linux users have more than two neurons firing off. get your hand out of your pants and back on the keybord, there's PRs to do!
Dude, this is capitalism. Everyone is being exploited. I don't know that the PornHub, or the company that owns them, is any worse than any other large corporation.
there was sarcasm mixed in this, but i am not fan of some porn.