'You deceived millions of us!': Trump fans tell him they're outraged over Navy pick
Summary
Donald Trump’s appointment of John Phelan, a private investment firm chairman with no military experience, as Secretary of the Navy has sparked backlash from some of his supporters on Truth Social.
Many pro-Trump users, including veterans, criticized the pick as rewarding a donor or friend instead of selecting someone with Navy experience.
Some expressed feelings of betrayal, accusing Trump of abandoning their values and making decisions that harm the nation.
The move has raised questions about qualifications and loyalty among his base.
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zero sympathy for these idiots. you elected a con man. youre getting exactly what you paid for.
Vote for a clown, don’t be surprised when you get a circus.
#YouVotedForHim
and similar hashtags need to go viral...
"Thanks, MAGA" needs to become a mantra for the next four years. Remind these shitheads whose fault it is for their misery at every turn, as they have made it abundantly clear that the attention span and long-term memory of the average American is woefully poor.
I might have had some sympathy the first time. They were just coned, not their fault. But as the saying goes. Fool me once, shame on You, fool me twice, shame on me.
I thought it was, “…fool me twice… can’t get fooled again.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7FKfl3O2Y&pp=ygUYZ2VvcmdlIGJ1c2ggZm9vbCBtZSBvbmNl
Certainly not going to misunderestimate you!
I miss the good ol' days when Bushy was the worst we could field. Ah, nostalgia.
We thought that was the apocalypse at the time... Infinite oil wars and climate change.... It maybe got worse?
These veterans not read project 2025 and realize they are about to lose their benefits?
Zero sympathy for them. I feel bad for the veterans who saw through the bullshit.
If only they had a "very particular set of skills" to remove the orange shitstain.
He wants to replace military leaders with lapdogs. His goal is to make military serve him not the Constitution.
And by extension, Putin.
Election is over, he does not care what anyone thinks.
This is the most terrifying part. They say that he's "liberated" now, but to me that just means he has nothing to lose. Assuming he lives past January 2029, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by throwing all resources into staying in power. He has no reason to give a fuck about whether anything he does or says is "popular" once he's sworn in. There will be zero consequences for anything until he leaves office, if he leaves office.
The dumb motherfucker proved that somebody with the mentality of a six year old can win the US presidency and then do whatever the fuck he wants, and he'll never face a single, real, goddamn consequence. I am ashamed of my country, and it's horribly depressing how many people died serving our military just to have this flag-hugging dipshit get to be the commander in chief, and he'll sell out to the highest bidders and get several more killed.
We're fucked, and only a small fraction of his worshipers are even beginning to see that. And when the shit hits their fan specifically, most of them will find a way to blame somebody else, probably somebody who is brown and/or has a vagina. Most of these incurious assholes will line up for whatever strong daddy negs them hard enough, and right now that's trump, and there will be a new strong daddy successor to tell them what to do and who to love and how to dress. Strong daddy hurts you and controls you, but at least you don't have to make decisions for yourself when you have strong daddy there to tell you what to think.
Fucking pathetic.
Even dictators need public support. This is a fundamental truth about leadership, that even Trump can't escape. Those that don't tend to have a short life expectancy.
You can convincingly fake having public support if you control the media.
The support of the military and corporations are far more important than the people. Authoritarians have been using the military and corpos to oppress the people for centuries.
And I think it's clear to most of us that Trump doesn't control the corpos but the opposite, they control him.
He's not going to skip any opportunity to enrich himself. Deregulate and sell is going to be their mantra, shit is going to get so bad over the next few deacdes. I wonder if America will even be recognizable in a century.
Yay!
Commander in Queef*
He'll be out after his four years. The important parts for him were grifting and escaping consequences. He'll have accomplished that, even after he leaves office.
The damage he'll do in the meantime...
I think k you missed the part where he unironically wants to “run for a third term.” And has literally every check and balance in his pocket.
He's not going to win a third term. And he won't be able to cheat into a third term. I'm not concerned about that.
I'm concerned about A. the damage this term, and B. the smarter version that follows a similar playbook.
However, you have to be pretty fucking dumb to be the President of the United States and still feel like you have any obligations to Russia. You tell the CIA what you fucking did, and they take care of it. What is he worried about, the pee tape getting out? Just call it fake news like he has literally everything else. It doesn't matter how much evidence there is. It never matters how much evidence there is. People follow him anyway.
The number of times he's flown right past that, things he's said or done that were guaranteed to lose him the election, or get him impeached and removed from office, or at least lose support among his base or Congress, or get him prosecuted, or or or...
Yeah, at this point, I'm not betting anything or anyone will realistically stop him.
And if you're betting on the Constitution blocking him from running again, remember that him being inaugurated is already a violation of the Constitution as an instigator of insurrection against the US government. Nobody is going to stop him. Do you really think it'll be different in '28? After 4 years of no longer solidifying but outright cementing his judiciary at all levels he can seat? With an executive branch that's been purged of non-loyal employees?
He's been underestimated at every step, except for the 2020 election, the one time he's truly lost anything. So you really think underestimating him now and expecting norms and laws to keep him in check when they've literally never done so is a good idea?!?
Oh buddy, haven't you been paying attention? Disenfranchising voters and rejecting unfavorable election results has been one of their biggest priorities.
If you still voted for Trump after 2016-2020 and Jan 6th then you deserve what you get. Welcome to the find out stage, it just sucks that I have to be here with you.
Come to Europe, we have cookies.
Also its not like we can just walk in.
Europe is Mordor confirmed.
Unfortunately, America's economy will likely take the rest of the world's economies with it.
Bruh, you guys are going down the same path. Just stop.
You paying our fare?
Then sit down.
"Someone made a joke, I will now type something mean for no reason."
Sorry, my impressions aren't very good, but I think I did alright.
Dude said that dead soldiers were losers abd disrespected the Arlington cemetery and they are surprised by this one?
More like Trumps sugar daddy hates the US military.
If only someone could have predicted this and warned them, over and over, for years...
If only the person they voted for had said he intended to do this exact thing LOUDLY, REPEATEDLY AND PUBLICLY for the last 4 years...
If only... Oh well, I guess we'll never know what that would have been like...
Deceived? He told you morons exactly what he was going to do.
They were probably focused on things like how the wimmenz and the tranz were hurting the military. Or something. Or at least the thin-skinned cishet xtian rightwing white male incel's feelings, anyway...
One disturbing thing about this election was how many people in the groups Trump promised to victimize went and voted for Trump.
"But I'm one of the "good" ones". Surely that will protect me.
I noticed that the "but mah inflation" narrative even worked on people that could otherwise afford the increases from corporate price-gouging disguised as "inflation" just fine.
Some of these same had to admit that their 401K still went up and up the past few years, even as they bitched about how the Democrats/Biden were "destroying the economy".
I just cannot explain how people that were not really feeling it from "inflation" and are at risk from the qons could vote for donvict. It just makes no sense, except in the case that some of them expect to get more handouts aimed at the rich, and/or they think they are one of the "good ones" and the qons will not harm them.
Veterans that vote for Republicans... What a bunch of idiots
Trump called it I guess.....
Suckers and losers if I recall
No one is immune from propaganda.
I hate myself for laughing so hard at these type of news, but it is what it is. The next 4 years will have so many articles with similar titles. I will keep crying and laughing all the same!
Every criticism of trumps cabinet picks are 100% for a fact over stated. I know the average Republican and they do not give a fuck. They won't be satisfied until Trump crowns himself king.
King? Do I have you remind you there's Trump fanart as Warhammer's God-Emperor of humankind? Leader of the in canon Fascist army of warhammer 40K?
Not that there's a good army (orks maybe?)
I wonder if they thought picking Big E to represent trump was ironic or not. Because the emperor made a bunch of mistakes that made everything a whole lot worse for a whole bunch of people. Like this is dystopian fiction we're talking about.
The orks are good, but only from their moral lens. Fighting=good, green=good, gits=bad, krumping gits=good. The only reason we think of them is good is because there's a lot of information on orc psychology, whereas we see the other races as more or less human instead of the aliens that they are.
Fuck i should help make the Warhammer communities here more active
As someone who doesn't play the game or paint the minifigs or really interact with the franchise in any way at all, I really enjoy the lore and world building involved.
It’s post ironic edgy. Too many levels of irony and seriousness. It’s ridiculous. They know it’s ridiculous and are having a lot of fun pretending it’s serious and laugh at those upset by it.
The Tau..?
Heresy!
What the hell were any Trump-voting servicemembers expecting? That Harris and Walz were making stuff up when they brought up time after time how much Trump hates servicemembers and his country if they get in the way of his needs?
I think it's pretty obvious they never heard a thing any democrat ever said, only what right wing media SAYS that 'the libs' are saying or doing
Yes. They thought it was all a lie to make Trump look bad.
To be fair, there was only ironclad fucking evidence to back it up, and reading isn't their strong suit.
They were only focused on the parts where he talked about how he'd be "hurting the people he needs to be" hurting.
I call bullshit on this, if anyone loves to advertise his goods is this cat. You knew what you were buying, fuck you.
Most of what Trump says is complete bullshit though. In the 2016 campaign he supported universal healthcare.
I don't think anyone has any idea what specific horrors Trump will unleash in this time, but it should be obvious to anyone that it will be horrors.
next 4 years are gonna be made much more tolerable from watching all the conservative bleating and handwringing about "HE WASNT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HURT THE NOT-MES!"
Leopard ate my face at its finest.
Leopard diabetus epidemic in 3, 2, 1...
Not going to happen.
It's happening in the article this post is about.
I think they're bringing up whining about leopards+faces because this is a case of it happening already.
Sure it's "happening", got it.
Why are you being sarcastic about the thing described in the article? Which part you're confused about is not obvious.
Those are "their" values, not his. And for a rubble he'll get new values.
insert Eric Andre meme
We need that meme but with a scooby doo mask reveal of putin underneath an eric mask.
Almost everyone he appointed is a shady political insider or a rich guy. He’s draining the swamp water so he can fill the hole with nuclear waste.
And to the donvict cultists, what they call a "swamp" is actually a set of people that are experts and/or long-term public servants - something they've been trained to bray is a "bad" thing - calling them "elitists" (a perversion of the term) and yelling about "term limits"... instead, they'd apparently rather have a bunch of "outsiders", which means - incompetent grifters and/or enemy agents looking to weaken this country for the benefit of the likes of Putin.
Though usually they appoint them to ambassador to a ally like France or England or somewhere else cushy with minimal political impact.
I'm convinced he'll be the first president in history to privatise the whole government.
The whole plan is to break all government agencies and then swoop in with a handful of billionaire buddies to buy up EVERYTHING. Houses, bitcoin, schools, outsourced (previous) government jobs to private industry. Crash the economy and tank the financial hit while everyone else is forced to sell, die, or give up their stuff to survive a recession.
Musk has already said Trump is going to tank the economy. Everything will be privatized. We'll be in a dystopic present soon enough.
Already there with Musk and other big donors getting administration positions.
Musk as Secretary of Transportation would be a fun ride.
That's what I thought was going to happen, but there's still time. After DOGE guts the government, DOGE dissolves and Musk is Sec of Transportation.
Hahahaha
Ha ha haaaaaa
Look on the bright side, he hasn't even been sworn in yet! We have four more years to be outraged on actual policy, and this will likely pale in comparison!
It feels a bit like when a company has been taken over by a VC firm.
And you start finding out how they're going to suck the juice out, while all the management involved in the decision pretend it's all rosy.
The difference is that with a VC takeover, it is not something the employees voted for.
What fans said that? Seriously, all these articles and posts seem like the most pathetic form of copium.
"Oh boy, his supporters must really be feeling bad now right? Right?!" Wrong. His supporters are not having second thoughts. They're not regretting their choices. They aren't feeling betrayed. They are overjoyed, and the constant attempts to reframe that as some Leopards-eating-faces schadenfreude is the stupidest thing I've seen all year, and I watched the run up to the election.
All these fucking posts are either based around like 1-2 tweets from no-name people, obviously fake accounts, or the worst; obviously made-up anecdotal stories from leftists, desperate to feel good about themselves, about how some right-winger in their life suddenly regrets all their choices. "Oh my racist uncle is a farmer and he's really feeling betrayed by Trump now. He's sooooo mad and-" Fuck off. No he's not. You haven't talked to your estranged uncle in years and have no idea what he's feeling if he even exists.
Miserable leftists desperately pretending that right-wingers are regretting their vote and secretly feeling as miserable as them. Grow the fuck up. They aren't regretting things. They won, and they're happier than pigs in shit about it.
The thing these articles are doing (which sensationalist articles always do) is taking a few people's opinions and spreading it across the entire blanket "they" of whatever opposite side the article references. It appeals to people because its easier for people to generalize the whole group than to point to a niche section.
This one in particular takes a few people who are interested in the secretary of the Navy and says they're upset at the choice, which they might be, and spins it into "They're all upset at what their leader did."
You can find this rhetoric all over the political spectrum, whether it's copium or relishing. Take it with a grain of salt.
You are not immune to propaganda.
Around my mega family now, They have zero regrets and love every choice is making. But to them Trump is a smart business man and can do no wrong.
Yep, my family regards him as a diety, chosen by God to lead America. He can do no wrong as he is God's vessel on Earth and acts only with divine will. So even if he makes what appears to be a mistake, it's actually all part of God's plan. Like God he is infallible.
The irony of making fun of "leftists" for believing this shit is not lost on "leftists". Most of us don't believe it. However, most Trump supporters absolutely HAVE to believe this exact style of bullshit reporting because Trump wouldn't appeal to anyone WITHOUT them believing similar Fox style propoganda.
I think what's happening is people are angry that they have been consistently correct about their fear of Trump, yet Trumpers pretend we were wrong even when the reality is right in front of you now. Like, literally, all of the reasons we have warned about Trump are coming true.
Every single argument against Trump goes the same way. Trump supporters deny the claim. Then, when it looks like its coming true, they re-frame it with desperate speculation until it actually comes true. Then they pretend that's what they all wanted in the first place. Literally nobody seems to know what he's doing, least of all him! He just makes wild claims about what he's going to do about all the people he hates and lets far right fundamentalist Christians do the driving.
"Haha...the libs are angry about it...we won!...lets keep marching towards the spinning blades patriots!"
I mean, seriously. The lies! So many lies. So many PROVEN right in front of you lies? So many incoherent rants. Threats of violence. Multiple different "genres" of crimes. Venomous hatred against minorities and other human fucking beings. Is it supposed to be some kind of tacitcal political genius against people who don't get it? Why? Why don't any of you ever explain why? Wouldn't it make sense to be comprehensible to liberals too? Is he pretending to be an obnoxious, evil, racist, hateful, demented, bully...or not? He sure does a remarkable impersonation of one. He never breaks the spell!
"I will deliberately make people think I'm a horrific bigot and trick them into thinking im an idiot by using childish insults and nicknames. My supporters will know otherwise because when you become a supporter, I mail you the key to my secrets...and that's why liberals are stupid and my supporters are so smart"
Not much of a tactic is it?
I'm reading this as a hedge fund is going to buy out the navy and shut it down.
They'll award contracts that will weaken the military without cutting spending. Like what already happened to Russia.
Lease it to China so the invasion of Taiwan makes a profit instead costs American lives and treasure.
Let me get this straight. Team Trump's thing is to always pick the worst for the job. And not just the worst, we are talking polar opposite black mirror picks. It is designed to make a mockery of the establishments. Like going into court and finding out your judge is literally bozo the clown.
So his team farts out another pick. Someone who is an unqualified shitstain. Color me surprised!
I would not be surprised if this guy couldn't swim and is afraid of the water. He is probably an anti-oceaner who thinks we should drain the ocean to prevent drownings.
This response should be the preamble of the Lemmurist Manifesto.
He just happens to know these nice out of town people with fusion reactors that can float in the air and suck it all up for us to keep us safe.
its not really deception when hes made the things hes gonna do clear
"We're appalled, shocked even, that the face eating leopards, which have advertised themselves clearly as face-eating leopards for the last several years, have begun eating our faces!"
Trump LOVES the poorly educated, too bad it's majority of Americans.
During the elections I got the idea most Americans hated Trump and wanted him to just disappear, because of posts like this. I really need to widen the sites I get my US news from lemmy and reddit lol
Oh they do hate him.
But they hated the idea of being ruled by a black woman even more.
I feel like it's a little of column A and a little of column B; but I agree we should all widen the sites we get our news from.
Most Americans are also too lazy to vote. It comes with growing up in an easy life.
The time to pretend to have a brain was before the election, Trumpers.
Need a surprised Pikachu with a MAGA hat meme.
Thank you, you fine human soul for your service.
Aaaaaand saved! Going to be getting a lot of use out of this in the work group chat. We'll see how long it takes before they make a new group chat without me (if they haven't already)
Sorry, I don't follow? 🙃 (Edit: but I like it!)
Someone has of course beat us to it. Lets make it famous!
https://imgflip.com/i/4sl4vu
Here's mine:
Get used to that, kids.
I want to punch these people in the brain. Don't worry, it's not like it'll harm them anyway. They've eaten way too many paint chips to suffer new brain damage. I hope everyone who voted for Trump chokes to death on their own stupid choices.
everyone is going to suffer, but yeah, it'll be briefly entertaining to see the leopards eating their faces.
This? This is what they have a problem with?
Gestures at 2017 to 2021, and everything that's happened, been uncovered, and said by the orange one since.... And none of that was over the line for you?
What?
Just wait until Project 2025 shit starts biting them in the ass.
Unfortunately, it's going to be such a shitshow that I won't be able to enjoy the leopard eating their faces.
if only he had openly expressed disdain for veterans, maybe they would've known he doesn't give a shit about them.
oh wait. he did.
for all the lies he told, he didn't deceive you. you're likely not wealthy so you didn't vote for him for that reason. so that leaves only the possibility that you're just a piece of shit racist and/or sexist asshole. so fuck you, i hope every single day for his entire administration will be worse for you than the day before.
Oh my god they're so fucking stupid. They actually thought he'd do things that benefitted them?
Twice, so shame on you.
I read that as "Navy Prick" which. Uhm. probably still works.
Like every single one of his moves this time?
Even the efficency and cost cutting are being done too harshly to maintain service levels. But denyong services is priority 1b.
Dumbasses. Athena forbid they listen to all the liberals that have been trying to tell them about donvict for fucking YEARS.
Given the state of the world... fuck Athena. It's clearly time to worship at the altar of Dionysus.
Not a wise decision but I'm willing
Spending too much time at the altar of Dionysus leads to unwise decisions.
I think we're in dire need of some Orcus right now.
The nation made their choice, let it burn.
Womp womp womp…
I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they’re not much bigger than two meters.
"You used to kill animals for fun?!"
Dumb people angry that they were conned. How very Patriotic of you.
These are the times when reality hits you over the head, regardless of if you live in reality or not.
The next one may very well be when veterans loose their benefits and the checks stop coming. Can't really hide from that in your alternate reality.
Aaahahahaha, we are so fucked, this is almost back around to being fun to watch.
My mother will not be fazed by this one bit.
These people are fucking stupid
This made me lol
you mean to tell me the guy who spent the last 12 years scamming the shit out of his base has now done something to betray their trust? i’m going to need a minute…..
"Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down? You'll have to get more specific as to which particular deception you mean."
John Phelan? Was he named by J K Rowling?
John Phelan young girls body parts.
(Legal: wordplay joke. No basis for pedo allegations.)
Oh is it pronounced "Feelin'" not "Felon"? My bad
Oh no, looks like the face-eating leopard got their face. <Audible_lip_smack_What_a_shame.wav>
Good god, Trump voters never disappoint. Or always, I'm not sure
Abandoning their values? Those ARE good values.
Meh, calm down there, unhappy.
We're still doing ok and building our connections just fine.
Have a nice day, if you are actually able 😎
Calls others children, acts like a child. Checks out. By the way, I hate the Democratic party as well. But your supposed superiority is just as cringey.
Out of line, but you're right. The first time we were "you don't know what's in store if he wins!" Now they know, and they like it.
They aren't just ignorant, they are evil. They'll gladly suffer as long as "them" suffer more.