I bought a ton of RGB stuff cause I thought it was neat back in the day, then realized most of it is just annoying. Now I put it to use instead. Color coded keys on the keyboard (All alphabet keys one color, all punctuation a slightly different color, etc.), and and rgb light on my mobo that's tied to my GPU temp.
30c: cyan
50c: green
60c: yellow
75c: red
Makes it easy to have a general idea of my temps when playing games.
Well, the important thing is that the cables aren't impeding the flow of air around the parts that get hot. It doesn't look like they are, so I don't see a problem.
The only thing that matters is that the cables don't get caught up in any fans. Other than that you can stuff as many cables in a PC case as you want and it won't impact temperatures by much (maybe 1 or 2 degrees Celsius). JayzTwoCents made a video about that. Cables don't really impact air flow.
If this is a proprietary case (such as those from Dell, HP, etc), which it looks like this is, then it probably doesn't.
My suggestion is to get even a bargain bin $50 case and switch to that quickly. Far less limiting and probably has cable management components all over.
I always started out “Imma hide all these cables and make the insides perfect!”
By the time I’d run all the power, fan, IDE, front case, USB, etc. I was like fuckit, I just want to get this thing running. Half-assed jammed the cables out of the way or behind the case ITX backing. Looks like shit, put the case side back on, off I go.
Lots easier now with far fewer cables to be run, cases offer more space behind the mobo for hiding cables and not the 3/4” of space they used to offer.
Lots easier now with far fewer cables to be run, cases offer more space behind the mobo for hiding cables and not the 3/4” of space they used to offer.
That's why I only use cube cases nowadays. Just shove all cables into the back and you're done.
It was incredibly difficult to create a clean build back in the day with non-modular PSU, molex power cables, and IDE connection cables. These days it's pretty simple, even if the back looks like trash. That's what the back cover is for.
Imagine telling someone around 2015, with Intel dominating CPU sales and AMD competing toe-to-toe with Nvidia in the GPU market, that you are using an Intel GPU with your AMD CPU. The times, they are a changing
Yeah, as long as you're pulling more than like 20% of the rated power then having a slightly overspec power supply is only going to bring you good things.
To my knowledge, PSUs are rated up to a declared power output but unless you have hardware that requires all of its power, the PSU doesn't put out the full charge.
Sure, but that difference is less than the variability based on load. The difference in efficiency between a Gold and Platinum PSU is like 4%, but load can vary that efficiency by 10 or 15%
A case with actual drive bays and ribbon cables everywhere, it if wasn't for that AMD Wraith cooler I'd think I was looking at a machine from 20 years ago.
Doesn't look like there is any other side at all which is fairly common in older cases (and possibly new pre built).
The metal plate you see is probably the side panel.
I guess they could probably fit some small cables between the motherboard standoffs but that's about it.
Guessing that this is a somewhat older case, the power supply being at the top like that it's pretty close to the motherboard and CPU power sockets and the drive bays, and GPUs could often run from motherboard power. You might have those huge grey IDE ribbon cables for floppy drives, you usually had the ketchup and mustard power wires, who cares what the thing looked like inside?
Sorry I didn't check my inbox for 4 months but it's been treating me really well ish... The problem right now is the drivers on Linux aren't caught up so for some games like marvel rivals I have to use Windows to play even though marvel rivals works on Linux with any other card lol. I'm hopeful but the more I look into it makes me a little more scared because it seems they have two separate drivers and I'm not sure if they're updating the drivers for the a series anymore which they should it's not an old card it's just that they moved to a new driver a whole new code base but we'll see
Pretty good so far it does get a little hot but never thermal throttles. Drivers for it on Linux are kind of poop right now. And I'm not sure if they forgot about it because they made a whole new driver and a whole new code base for their new b series cards so some games like marvel rivals still won't launch with the a series
i always just hang shit somewhere it won’t impede airflow and let it be. the ONE time i bought a prebuilt system was the only time i’ve had a computer with the cables remotely “managed”.
unfortunately one of the zip ties they used impeded the fan on the cpu cooler, but only when the case was closed. it made this buzzing noise that i couldn’t track down for months, and then the motherboard failed. and then the replacement motherboard failed.
i went back to building my own computers again after that.
It is where someone, who will most likely never have to do something inside that box ever again, gets to over tighten everything so the plugs are held in by sheer force of will and there is not enough slack left to add a sata ssd.
Nope, I didn't have my last machines wires "managed"
Nah, this is some shit I'd expect from eMachines, except their computers wouldn't have a dedicated graphics card, nor two sticks of RAM. I guess your "build" could be adding the card and extra stick of RAM.
Unpopular opinion, but I just get a solid side panel and do minimal to no cable management. I don't care about rgb or if the insides look pretty.
Steer clear of the fans and it's all good.
Personally I hate RGB. It gives me a headache
Yeah I don’t get it, don’t you want the only light be coming from the lamp and the monitor?
Imagine if cinemas had RBG on every seat.
I bought a ton of RGB stuff cause I thought it was neat back in the day, then realized most of it is just annoying. Now I put it to use instead. Color coded keys on the keyboard (All alphabet keys one color, all punctuation a slightly different color, etc.), and and rgb light on my mobo that's tied to my GPU temp.
30c: cyan
50c: green
60c: yellow
75c: red
Makes it easy to have a general idea of my temps when playing games.
It'll work, but in a few years those cables will be full of dust.
I don't see a problem here.
PS: My opinion on PC innards was formed during the reign of IDE cables.
Mmmmmmmm..... ketchup and mustard 🤤
Just shove the excess cabling into the 5.25" Bay area so you can shut the case
Full of my hard drive and SSD :/
I think that's the 3.5" Bay you're referring to. The 2 cd/dvd drive bays at the top should be big enough to cram the wires in
CD drive still in there just not plugged in. But good idea I can just yank it out
I haven't looked in years, but you used to be able to get covers or dust filters that popped into 5.25 bays for a few bucks.
Also, those cables are flat, so you might be able to fold them in half and put them under the cd drive, but above the storage drives
Well, the important thing is that the cables aren't impeding the flow of air around the parts that get hot. It doesn't look like they are, so I don't see a problem.
The only thing that matters is that the cables don't get caught up in any fans. Other than that you can stuff as many cables in a PC case as you want and it won't impact temperatures by much (maybe 1 or 2 degrees Celsius). JayzTwoCents made a video about that. Cables don't really impact air flow.
Feels
Ah, my old WoW gaming computer!
Right age. It's my 2010 gaming rig turned server.
I love it
Eeeewww. You know there's a panel on the other side to hide all that, right?
I haven't seen a case since like 2014 that didn't have the cable management on the other side but like like OPs case doesn't. Hard to tell from here
It don't. I've had this case for awhile, got it out the dump of an office building and just kept upgrading it.
If this is a proprietary case (such as those from Dell, HP, etc), which it looks like this is, then it probably doesn't.
My suggestion is to get even a bargain bin $50 case and switch to that quickly. Far less limiting and probably has cable management components all over.
The Montech cases are really good, come with 6 RGB fans preinstalled, and a glass side (not plexi)
I always started out “Imma hide all these cables and make the insides perfect!”
By the time I’d run all the power, fan, IDE, front case, USB, etc. I was like fuckit, I just want to get this thing running. Half-assed jammed the cables out of the way or behind the case ITX backing. Looks like shit, put the case side back on, off I go.
Lots easier now with far fewer cables to be run, cases offer more space behind the mobo for hiding cables and not the 3/4” of space they used to offer.
That's why I only use cube cases nowadays. Just shove all cables into the back and you're done.
It was incredibly difficult to create a clean build back in the day with non-modular PSU, molex power cables, and IDE connection cables. These days it's pretty simple, even if the back looks like trash. That's what the back cover is for.
As long as you can close the case, and the cables don't get caught in the fans, it's perfect inside.
Imagine telling someone around 2015, with Intel dominating CPU sales and AMD competing toe-to-toe with Nvidia in the GPU market, that you are using an Intel GPU with your AMD CPU. The times, they are a changing
If no side window, who cares, let it be messy! Call it your sleeper office PC.
I have a side window, and still don't give a fuck about cable management. Pc lives under a desk, dust be damned!
Honestly I can't. Looks like those from the store.
Why did you put an 850W power supply in that? You could probably put a 650W that's much nicer for the same price.
It was on sale and I thought "eh what the hell I'll upgrade sometime down the road"
Yeah, as long as you're pulling more than like 20% of the rated power then having a slightly overspec power supply is only going to bring you good things.
What about a worse power bill?
To my knowledge, PSUs are rated up to a declared power output but unless you have hardware that requires all of its power, the PSU doesn't put out the full charge.
The PSU doesn't use more power just because it has a higher maximum capacity. Plus, a PSU is most efficient at partial loads (usually around 60-70%)
TIL
A PSU with an efficiency rating, like 80 Plus, will be more efficient than that PSU, even near 100% load (which it wouldn't be usually).
Sure, but that difference is less than the variability based on load. The difference in efficiency between a Gold and Platinum PSU is like 4%, but load can vary that efficiency by 10 or 15%
I could tell because every internal connection isn't hot glued in place.
A case with actual drive bays and ribbon cables everywhere, it if wasn't for that AMD Wraith cooler I'd think I was looking at a machine from 20 years ago.
And absolutely no way to route cables in the back.
You mean no room at all under the other side panel and/or the other side panel doesn't come off, it's all riveted together? Yeah.
Doesn't look like there is any other side at all which is fairly common in older cases (and possibly new pre built). The metal plate you see is probably the side panel.
I guess they could probably fit some small cables between the motherboard standoffs but that's about it.
there are two sheets of steel there, one that the motherboard and such mount to with all the screw holes and such, and the smooth outer skin.
I doubt there is any room to route cables there though. Doesn't look like it anyways.
No, wasn't intended to.
Guessing that this is a somewhat older case, the power supply being at the top like that it's pretty close to the motherboard and CPU power sockets and the drive bays, and GPUs could often run from motherboard power. You might have those huge grey IDE ribbon cables for floppy drives, you usually had the ketchup and mustard power wires, who cares what the thing looked like inside?
I had the opposite problem building mine, if I tried to cable manage* I couldn't close the case because there was too much slack
*hiding all the cables in the back panel
How is the Intel arc treating you op? Is it actually good for general purpose nowadays, or still a lot in beta phase?
Sorry I didn't check my inbox for 4 months but it's been treating me really well ish... The problem right now is the drivers on Linux aren't caught up so for some games like marvel rivals I have to use Windows to play even though marvel rivals works on Linux with any other card lol. I'm hopeful but the more I look into it makes me a little more scared because it seems they have two separate drivers and I'm not sure if they're updating the drivers for the a series anymore which they should it's not an old card it's just that they moved to a new driver a whole new code base but we'll see
How's the Intel GPU treating ya? Looks awesome!
Pretty good so far it does get a little hot but never thermal throttles. Drivers for it on Linux are kind of poop right now. And I'm not sure if they forgot about it because they made a whole new driver and a whole new code base for their new b series cards so some games like marvel rivals still won't launch with the a series
I feel so seen.
i always just hang shit somewhere it won’t impede airflow and let it be. the ONE time i bought a prebuilt system was the only time i’ve had a computer with the cables remotely “managed”.
unfortunately one of the zip ties they used impeded the fan on the cpu cooler, but only when the case was closed. it made this buzzing noise that i couldn’t track down for months, and then the motherboard failed. and then the replacement motherboard failed.
i went back to building my own computers again after that.
I love PC parts branded "sparkle". I had a Sparkle power supply and I just hoped I would never see a magic blue sparkle.
If it works, good. That is what matters. Just remember to clean it every once in a while. I've seen fully dust and lint clogged heatsinks before.
How did you get access to my pc???
Wi-fi connection.
That is one hell of a wifi connection, lol
You're paying (theoretically!) for it, so you should know on what you're spending your money.
What's this "cable management" thing?
It is where someone, who will most likely never have to do something inside that box ever again, gets to over tighten everything so the plugs are held in by sheer force of will and there is not enough slack left to add a sata ssd.
Nope, I didn't have my last machines wires "managed"
I suggest buying a bigger cpu cooler.
It's perfectly fine for that core duo.
(But actually, stock amd coolers are normally totally adequate)
Nah, this is some shit I'd expect from eMachines, except their computers wouldn't have a dedicated graphics card, nor two sticks of RAM. I guess your "build" could be adding the card and extra stick of RAM.
Only thing that's the same is the case and HDD. There was an i5-6500 in there but I upgraded to a ryzen 5 2600.