Spyke
14th_cylonreply
lemm.ee

i think registration and actually sending any money will be two separate steps, but it is still lot of dumb people.

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Maybe most of these are bots? And maybe paid by the owner to generate traffic?

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VieuxQuebreply
lemmy.ca

At 50$ a pop it's 40 000 000$ Grifters gonna grift ! Sometimes I hate that I have morals stopping me from exploiting those morons.

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It’s worse than you think; it’s $50/month!

Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).

So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.

I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.

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thatKamGuyreply
sh.itjust.works

Yup, was one of the first bits I thought of too..

I still paraphrase his “your stuff is shit, my shit is stuff” to this day.. 😅

We really need someone to fill the massive shoes he left behind - an individual able to call out all the egregious bullshit.

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stoyreply
lemmy.zip

It's like eight whole megastupid

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sh.itjust.works

Data brokers will now have a new set of identities for Insecure White Male with No Financial Literacy.

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sh.itjust.works

800.000 people?

Talking bullshit seems to pay very good

yes not everyone was paying, but still:

If accurate, the site at minimum would generate upwards of $5,650,000 every month.

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”Money making is a skill,” the website states. “We will teach you how to master it.”

step 1: convince people to pay you 50$ for access to your deranged ramblings.

there is no step 2

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lemmy.world

Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?

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lemm.ee

There’s very much a vacuum for what healthy masculinity looks like, and shitheads like Tate are filling that void

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lemm.ee

It makes me sad, especially knowing my son is going to face the same propaganda. I just hope to arm him with the knowledge to see past it.

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Knowledge and unconditional love should do the trick 🤞I have found that the men most prone to this are men with a chronic lack of love and self-esteem.

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sh.itjust.works

According the "hustler's university 4.0" website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)

Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it's not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I'll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it's not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.

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It's apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there's apparently a hard sell to "commit" to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won't let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that's a sacred vow, bro, you can't violate that, bro.

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Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.

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gcheliotisreply
lemmy.world

I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.

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mander.xyz

My friend's brother almost fell victim to this cult. If he's anything to go by most members will be vulnerable idiots.

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Dasnapreply
lemmy.world

It's good that people are able to get out of it, though. How's he doing nowadays?

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I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It's really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.

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lemmy.nz

Jesus Christ he has 800,000 users. That's so depressing.

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I mean,800k seems low actually... it was up and running for like six or seven years. Maybe the prices were too steep?

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Read the article, it's so much better than the headline lets on. Trolled him, email addresses, full forum and chat content, etc.

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lemmy.zip

It's interesting, the first time I saw a picture of Tate I only saw cringe, and that has not changed.

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vgareply
sopuli.xyz

I'm sure there are people who look like Tate but are not complete assholes.

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Oh absolutely, but I haven't met any one dressing like him who I have liked

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We have a friend who looks a ton like him when he mean-mugs, but is nicer than all of us combined, which just makes his Tate face funnier.

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You're not impressed by that strong manly jawline?

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lemmy.ca

Who is this Andrew Tate guy? By his name, I can only assume he is some kind of potato

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Mattyreply
lemmy.autism.place

He's one of those "Alpha Male" influencer who's extremely misogynistic

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Irrelevant. Tate doesn't just want sex. He wants ownership of women and a cult following of sad, little men. He's methods and motives are exactly the same as cult leaders.

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lemmy.world

We could also just have more wars so young men get killed off in swathes every decade or so.

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Like old times, our young men and their young men decimate each other, then they go murder and rape whoever they can on the other side. Make wars great again!

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reddthat.com

Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.

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One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.

The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate's fanbase is mostly younger. I'm sure there is some overlap but probably small.

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Wonder how many were bots, like Ashley Madison, that exist to pump numbers and increase engagement

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lemmy.ml

It’s hard not to feel bad for aimless young men who get tricked by this guy.

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db2reply
lemmy.world

You don't know that. You don't even know if it was done by a human being.

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lemmy.world

I have been on Lemmy for over 8 months as a woman. In that time, I have been abused so badly by both the community and mods, including several death threats, I had to remove all info about me from my profile. Men here are misogynists.

They weren't bots. And you are a woman hater too, trying to run defense for them. Thanks for making the world 1600s again. I'm literally having to defend food safety practices and handwashing to people because people like you hmcant pick up the mental weight of empathy towards a woman. You're in a cult groomed to automatically disrespect and dismiss women. Gender narcissist.

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db2reply
lemmy.world

I'm gonna go ahead and block you. Consider that the problems in your life aren't because of everyone else around you. Good luck, but stay away from me, kthxbye.

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That was always allowed. And my problems are literally caused by slavers and colonizers, quite clearly. I will be addressing my problems online and irl and stating what's happening. You can't silence me, you can ofc block me.

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redlemmy.com

"Our article is boring. How do we get more people to read it?"

"Put a good looking able bodied bearded white guy on the cover."

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AstralPathreply
lemmy.ca

Wut?

The article is about Andrew Tate. Guess whose face is on the cover? Andrew Tate's face.

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AstralPathreply
lemmy.ca

Good looking? Subjective. Able-bodied? He's more fit than most.

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Right, but when I hear "able-bodied," there's a pretty strong implication that they'll actually use that body for something productive. I think your average construction worker is more "able-bodied" than Tate, Tate just looks like a gym queen.

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