Masked group marches through Ohio neighborhood with swastika flags
Summary
Masked neo-Nazis marched through Columbus, Ohio’s Short North neighborhood on Saturday, displaying swastika flags and making racist and antisemitic statements.
Police are investigating, and no arrests have been reported.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine and Columbus officials condemned the display, emphasizing that hate and bigotry have no place in the state.
The incident follows a similar demonstration in Michigan last week, where masked protesters displayed Nazi flags outside a performance of The Diary of Anne Frank.
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When the masks come off, that’s when it’s really bad.
Oh, don’t worry. That was just the new Secretary of Defense and a few of his buddies out blowing off some steam and having a good time.
Considering how passive the title is here I think maybe they're normalized now.
The fact this is literally the 2nd story this week of Nazi shitheads openly waving their flags around is a good indicator it's not going to take nearly that long.
No. No it won’t. They want to sensationalize this. Don’t buy into it.
Yeah nothing to report here, just some Nazis marching through US streets unmolested.
They were molested. The got in a few fights, pepper sprayed some people and then scuttled off to their U-Haul where the cops arrested them.
Can you elaborate on this?
I am not American (although I have lived there). I am just curious.
I am an American (and Jewish) and I have no fucking clue what they're talking about. It has gotten worse and worse and worse.
I hope you are able to stay safe where you are. A lot of New England states prepared for an influx of people needing medical care when roe vs wade was overturned. Some blatantly said they will not cooperate with states like Texas and will not release people's medical records.
I'm hoping if things escalate they'll follow that trend and help people get out. There's been some states like Vermont and Connecticut that have had a decrease in population over the past 10 years so there's room for more people should it come to that.
I have dual citizenship with the UK, which is where we plan to escape to, but New England is Plan B if I can't find a job.
That's good to hear! The UK is probably a lot safer than staying stateside. But if you find job prospects better in New England we welcome you!
The roads are kinda crappy, and we still have some trump supporters, but it's definitely muted compared to other parts of the country.
We have good friends in Baltimore (a queer married couple) so it's a better plan B than nothing.
"They" being the majority of Americans who looked at this as said "yeah, sure".
You paid pretty much zero attention I'm school, huh?
I wonder what the amount of Trump gear vs Nazi flags was. It's also very ironic how when Nazi's march in the streets without a permit the cops just block off the street with their cars and perform crowd control to "help protect the city" (the Nazis). And when people of color march without a permit because cops killed another person over something stupid they get met with riot gear, tear gas, and rubber bullets.
It's going to get so much worse before it gets better ...
To be fair they were severely understaffed for exactly the duration of the march for some mysterious reason.
Remember that cops have no duty to protect. They protect who they like. They protect what they are.
Yep, racists are going to be racist.
If it gets better...
Outside of us causing a nuclear war, it will eventually get better. Every empire eventually falls, it's just a question of, do we take Mother Earth with us?
They appear to have been arrested, traveling in a U-haul.
Interesting. The article ends by saying there were no arrests.
Ah, maybe the police were stopping them to pick up their coworkers from out of the van so that they could start their shift.
So the story gets a happy ending... and I'm guessing so will his cellmate.
Some of those who work forces...
I won't believe this story has a happy ending until they're in prison. Because I have a feeling they're about to get a huge amount of help from the incoming administration.
That will depend on whether they face state or federal charges. I’m curious if they will be charged at all if the only thing they did was “protest”.
It will depend a lot more on whether or not the fascist dictatorship coming into office in January gives a shit about state charges being out of their legal jurisdiction.
I'm betting on not.
Yeah, people are basically sticking their heads in the dirt with what’s about to happen in the US.
Source: I live in Ohio and the apathy is palpable. I’m in a Blue bubble, but I even when I go to some small town you can tell everyone is just too burnout from the freight train of nonstop crazy politics stuff.
People really want to believe Trump won't be a fascist dictator despite coming right out and saying he will be. I know he lies all the time, but that's a stupid reason not to believe him on this one.
I don't think Trump will bail them out. It doesn't benefit him to do so.
Sure it does. They can join his SS.
What, just because of every single thing they've said or done?
Prison for 1.5 months until pardoned?
Wasn't that a previous Nazi rally? Or did it happen again?
Reddit is not a reliable source for verified facts in any way, at any time, at all.
I can nearly swear I remember this photo from the last trump administration.
They're not entirely wrong though. Remember how Reddit "caught" the Boston marathon bomber?
yeah thats all fair
I'm just addressing the fact that Reddit isn't always correct and we should want more credible sources than random people submitting things online with no vetting. That's where they aren't entirely wrong. I'm not saying they're right and their memory is a reason to believe this is incorrect, but they're just some person online just like the Reddit user.
I checked tineye and it didn't find any other copies of this image. Says it was posted to imgur yesterday.
https://tineye.com/search/3518bf0ca837e6e509d9c43e7c772c455e4ab33d?sort=score&order=desc&page=1
It legitimately looks like the cop on the left is giving that guy tips for next time.
"We will not tolerate hate in Ohio," Ohio Republican Gov. Mike DeWine said in a statement on the social media platform X on Saturday evening.
Talking from both sides of your ballot box, are we, Mike? Fucking moron. You support the hate candidate and you get a hate populace.
Don’t worry, he’ll get pushback on that statement and then declare Ohio the fifth reich. He always takes the right stance first then manages to flip flop to worse than he was asked to
Considering this was happening before the election was declared as well, I'm willing to take the stance that Ohio is just a magnet for trash Nazis.
Let me guess: there were good people on both sides in that masked group.
the masked group is just one of the sides
hate and bigotry is literally the only thing republicans agree on
I've seen more hate, violence, and bigotry from the left over the last year...
People calling you a nazi when you're acting like a nazi doesn't count.
Oh pretty please indulge us with your tall tales of all the violence you've seen from the left since Nov of 2023.
sure you have, sweetie
The hate and bigotry: people being upset at being intentionally misgendered.
Prove it.
Hallucinogenics are a hell of a drug...or did you just notsee what the entire GOP has become?
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Imagine having a brain so wasted and misused as to actually believe this.
It's disrespectful to the forces of nature to treat your brain like this after so many millions of years of evolution.
Get yourself some help.
You mean the left also tried to overthrow the government through violence?
Haha, no you haven't you fucking dork.
Nazis feel emboldened to march in multiple cities this year:
https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/lawmakers-react-to-neo-nazi-group-marching-in-nashville-204499525738
https://www.wgal.com/article/neo-nazi-march-harrisburg-pennsylvania-peace-rally/61971282
Nazis have been marching in Columbus for two years. This was just the first time they attacked people
The next time they'll get the right police on shift first so they won't be arrested for attacking people. Then no one speaks up the third time because no one is there to protect us and we've arrived at totally fucked.
I don’t know about you but I armed myself. I will help me.
This is America.
They're just preparing for the inauguration.
Police are investigating...sure I bet a few officers were in the march. Yes because Trump going allow nazi the only right to free speech. When fhe protest begin Trump will send in the troops to put them down.
I will never again wonder how a group like the KKK was able to form, thrive, and persist for so long, inside the USA.
So glad I don't live there. I'm worried about you all.
Good luck.
I live here and do not understand how it is allowed to happen.
Because the civil war losers were never held to account, allowing this shit to continue festering underneath the veneer of American society.
Sherman should have finished the job.
His weakness was sympathising with southerners.
Traitors should've been hanged. Their lands should've been confiscated and given to newly freed peoples, 40 acres and a mule and all that. Reconstruction failed in large part because the traitorous, racist losers were allowed to go home and start implementing Jim Crow laws instead of being held accountable.
That they and their descendants were allowed to live out their days peacefully pretending their cause was somehow noble and honorable and not just chattel slavery is a crime that persists to this day in the systemic racism throughout our government.
Yup.
We didn't hold the Confederates to account. We aren't holding Donald Trump and his Republican enablers who spread lies about our democracy and took part in the fake electors plot to account. We're too pussy to do what needs to be done when it needs to be done.
Which is why our democracy won't last.
It's inevitable.
Exploitation of the religious liberties clause of the first amendment.
Any system is allowed to self-destruct, I guess
I'm worried about us too. What the ever-loving fuck, man.
We've always been a racist nation. The Civil War just shut them up in public for a while.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Israel isn’t representative of Jewish people. It uses jewish people as a shield from criticism. Israel is a pro-US colonialist project before it’s jewish. This is like saying that people hate leftists but they voted for the national socialist german worker’s party
You think these dumbass neo nazi chucklefucks have enough brain cells to rub together to make that distinction?
yes, they hate arabs most of all, so they probably consider israel’s genocide to be based. they probably love the concept that they’re funding a war that will kill lots of jews and lots of arabs
They hate any color that isn't white scaled to a slightly off-peach beige.
What you actually are has nothing to do with their perception. There's stories of Mexicans and Indians after 9/11 getting killed because some idiot thought they looked like Arabs.
It isn't colonialist. It is a place we can force-project our military from in a valuable and very anti-west part of the world. If our military didn't need it, we wouldn't even be near the place.
Yeah. They don't really mind Israel killing non-white people and also concentrating Jewish people under a single state https://youtu.be/N3Taq2bekjQ
These ding-a-lings have been supporting Israel (cynically) for a long time. First of all, they hate Muslims even more as a general rule, and for their silly fantasy that involves Yeshua flying back on a cloud, they think the Jews need to occupy Israel. This is why we have xtian zionists.
It always makes me laugh. These people are pro Israel for its government, which is right wing, but they hate Jewish people lol. That's why you have the MGTs of the world talking about Jewish space lasers and Jews run Hollywood and Jews run the media.
Trump loves the poorly educated.
they could be zionist antisemites
Israel is not Jewish. This is antisemitic
Most Jews are not israeli and israel is not representative of Judaism, but israel does claim Judaism as a core part of its "national" identity, so there's nothing antisemitic about pointing out the irony of Nazis supporting israel. The irony may be pretty superficial tho, some of the other replies here point out several reasons why Nazism and Zionism/israel are actually aligned.
Oh, but they do, as is evidenced by hateful bigots marching through the streets of your state capital.
It's like that time my old high school had a school shooting and some elected official was all like "no one could have predicted this" and I was like "my brother in Christ, I went to that high school. If no one predicted a mass shooter event then why the fuck weren't we allowed long coats or backpacks? Why the metal detectors? Was it all for shits and giggles?"
Anyways, elected officials lie and it's very upsetting to people that expect literal truth. Maybe it's comforting to some?
I mean why wouldn't they? Americans told them to be Nazi and proud this election after all.
I'm more shocked that they wear masks. They hate masks and they have no reason to hide their faces.
They know that they're being bad. That's why they're wearing them.
Exactly!
Devine and other R politicians have no shame pandering for their votes, dog-whistles and all.
I mean hell, not even dog whistles this time. Trump and his allies were loudly shouting Nazi slogans publicly and there was no pushback.
Masked groupNazis marches through Ohio neighborhood with swastika flagsFTFY ABC News.
I miss the days when it was acceptable to beat the shit out of Nazis. Can we bring that back?
If you see someone punch a nazi, no you didn't. That nazi fell.
Under what laws was it acceptable to beat people until shit comes out of them? It sounds like you just want an excuse to become violent whenever you feel justified.
I’m a pacifist, but punching Nazis has been self defence for 80+ years.
No it hasn't. It is propaganda from Zionists to get you to think and behave radically anytime someone gets called a Nazi. It is a way to get you to think irrationally and to become a violent thug whenever you feel it is convenient to attack someone.
No, I’m old enough to know the difference.
If you’re suggesting people literally carrying Nazi flags aren’t Nazis, you’re delusional.
Okay, your comments are clearly in bad faith and I’m done wasting time on you.
Appeasement is a terrible idea when we're talking about Nazis, it has never worked and will never work. I don't get why people are so ignorant about history. I guess you're not part of a minority that would get brutalized or murdered under their rule? Otherwise you probably wouldn't attempt to play nice with literal Nazis.
It's really irritating to watch this shit unfold as a German. You guys are basically begging fascists to take over at this point.
Who is begging fascist to take over? It sounds like you're begging anarchy to take over. I seriously question people's intent like this that act like there should be no laws in the United States and that their radical feelings are way more important. I don't see any of these cosplay Nazis murdering Jewish people anywhere on the scale of Zionists. Do you? Tell me, why are you such a strong advocate of punching cosplay Nazis but not an advocate of punching those committing the murder and genocide today?
Can... can we maybe just punch / kill both? The Isrealis are acting a LOT like Nazis these days. I'm cool with both.
Easy.
Nazis aren't people. They cashed out their people card the second they picked up that flag.
Carrying a flag does not mean that someone is not people. It can mean that they are people that do bad things. You have Zionists committing genocide under your nose that seem to carry a particular flag. Do you think Zionists, like Joe Biden (a proud Zionist) aren't people? Are you willing to punch the President or worse because of your extremist beliefs?
Netanyahu's atrocities don't justify your support for nazi shit.
It's a shame that lemmy's centrists abandoned the high ground on this, but I didn't. Nazis relinquished their humanity to become pinatas.
Always punch Nazis. It’s pretty simple.
Jury nullification.
Someone should make an educational video on jury nullification and find a way to make it go viral on tiktok.
I see the propaganda has worked well. You're more concerned about cosplay Nazis than the real Nazis committing genocide under your nose. You going to go punch a Zionist now?
They're Nazis.
Nazis bad :)
You're going to be really disappointed if anyone ever tells you it's raining cats and dogs.
Alright then Neville
Hey. Peace in our time.
The laws of engagement in WW2? I remember they were apparently building concentration camps and rounding up and murdering the Jews, the gays, the gypsies, the anarchists, the communists, the Slavs, the mentally disabled, allied prisoners of war etc etc. I think right about then the law was ok with fucking-up Nazis… but I’m not an historian so best to double check this comment.
There's no such thing as a peaceful Nazi.
Over half the planet was in agreement about fucking up Nazis at one point
You will never get the answer. Not here on Lemmy or Reddit. These are keyboard badasses.
What a bunch of losers, waiting until the generation is dead that would beat them to a pulp in the streets with their Hurry Canes and walkers.
Back in Normandy and Carentan Americans used to call that target practice, make America great again please.
Masks are for hiding from responsibility, not for acting responsibly. Acting responsibly is the way of the enemy.
Same people, I bet.
You only hide your face if you're proud of something that you're probably not supposed to be proud of...
Or you fear being harassed by the cops.... oh wait nvm.
Exactly. Some of them may actually be cops. They always get some number of facists.
"They always get some number of facists."
My observation is that if they didn't start out that way, they sure end up that way.
And yes, I resisted the temptation to make a joke about "facists"
Why are you putting "fascist" in quotes when we're talking about a march literally displaying Nazi flags?
Maybe I'm mistaken in thinking Nazis are fascists?
Slow down, you read too fast.
"facists" vs fascists.
Fair enough.
Can we please have a mass shooting on one of these marches?
Nah, the people marching are the people who perform mass shootings.
That would be great if they would shoot each other!
Give it some time.
No, you're thinking about the left. It's the left that hates itself.
Hates, nah but, unlike the npc-factory of the right, the left is very diverse and because of that you see more internal divisions.
Ask an ML if they think Nazis or Liberals are the more dangerous enemy. They will say liberals every time.
Now you're thinking like the FBI. Join their discords and spread a bunch of disinformation gossip pinning them against each other. Drive the leaders mad with paranoia of each other.
NGL, as someone that is EXTREMELY maga-passing, I could do this....and I am angry, and bored.....hmm.....
Trump will pardon them, so there's gonna be a fuckton more of this shit over the next four years. Likely progressively worse as we go.
Pardon them for what? Unless their possessing firearms wasn't in line with the law, or that "physical altercation" mentioned that questioning apparently went nowhere reemerges as a thing then I don't know what they'd need pardoned for based on the article.
The marching with Nazi shit and spewing whatever hateful bullshit is protected speech, because speech protections in the US are extremely broad.
And that's before getting into whether or not the hypothetical crime is federal (which he could hypothetically pardon) or state (which he can't).
Yeah, I was in a rush when writing that, and should have been more thorough in explaining what I meant.
I meant that's their mentality: these idiots will become increasingly emboldened as Trump takes over, and make the assumption that they can do anything they want because Trump & the Republicans have taken over the Justice system and will allow them to do whatever they want to the "evil libs." There will be no hate crimes prosecuted (unless against white and/or prominent right-wingers) - at least not on a federal level, but these idiots often don't really understand that difference (and TBF there effectively may not BE a difference in red states).
Yup.
Things aren't getting better in America anytime soon. Even if the "pendulum swings". Pendulum doesn't matter in a society full of fools and racists. There is no magical reset button every 4-8 years for mistakes of the magnitude we just made as a society.
Buckle up.
Unless they violated a federal crime and are convicted of it, Trump can't do shit.
Did he pardon anyone who participated in Jan 6?
He ran on doing so.
He will.
He doesn't have to worry about pissing people off now. It's his 2nd term.
"Party of law and order".
I've read he plans to upon retaking office.
I think it's incorrect to link all the January 6th protestors with actual Neo-Nazis and that sort of hyperbole was part of the reason Democrats were out of touch with how regular people felt. Neo-Nazis are partly increasing because of the memification of racism, giving racism a more viral quality, combined with how fast society is changing and people incorrectly making sense of it through racism.
No one mentioned Jan 6 until you did.
Get ready to see a lot more of this.
This is America now.
The majority voted for this. We wanted this.
Don't lump me into the collective "we".
We're part of it. It's our country and the majority decided to take America down this path.
We are "we" because we are part of this society.
I didn't vote for it. I know, very clearly, what direction we're headed in. Anyone that didn't just float through their history classes with barely passing grades should know. But I still accept that I'm part of it. WE are a very stupid society.
Yup.
Democracies only work for average citizens if average citizens inform themselves responsibly and vote responsibly. Americans are AWFUL at that.
I'm honestly ashamed of our country. Never really felt that before. At least not to this degree.
3 of these guys marching down the street: a joke.
3,000 of these guys marching down the street: a nightmare.
It would be a shame if Nazis got massacred and noone saw what happened.
the only thing sadder than this is that they managed to survive to the end of their little walk and go home.
In a just society they would have been napalmed and/or turned to ground mince by a large truck.
They harassed a local business, got confronted by the patrons there, and pepper sprayed them. Then, they got arrested for it.
I hate Ohio Nazis.
Indeed, we need the 1974 Dodge Monaco..."It's got a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas."
Ohio Nazis aren't real Nazis.
If they don't come from the 1944 Germany region, they are sparkling fascists.
Throw paint on them. Follow them to their car. Take a picture of their license plate. Its easier to follow them after you dump a pail of paint on them
they are probably armed
Yup.
What's your point?
They will shoot you.
No they won't. It's posturing. Be careful around them, but if they shoot you for throwing paint then there's going to be a big crackdown on them. They don't want that. The guns are part of the show (and potentially to defend against other armed attacks).
They're armed because they're looking to provoke a situation where they can commit murder and call it self defense.
It's called the Shittenhouse Defense
That is not true of everyone walking around carrying, but it is definitely true of these fuckwits.
In a normal legal system that would be provocation of self-defense state, which would cause the act of defending to be limited to actual defense but would require extensive acts of mitigating the threat in non-violent ways.
Yes, but these are nazis, so it's not like the sympathetic legal system is going to do anything. Also, these are nazis, so they're not very bright.
They're marching in the hopes that someone will attack them in a fashion they cannot reasonably flee from? Or does Ohio have stand your ground and we could knock the part about fleeing off?
Ohio doesn't require fleeing. All they have to say is that they thought someone was in danger to use lethal force. They could still be charged and it'd be up to ba jury. I don't think they'd do very well with a jury though. But somebody is still dead.
They are marching in the hopes that someone will do anything even slightly untoward that they can interpret as a threat and open fire. They're confident that they will get a piece of shit judge like Rittenhouse got.
Do you suppose that they are legal scholars?
They’ll get cracked down on, maybe, but you’ll still be fucking shot
man you have not been following events
I'm not saying they will shoot you, just simply pointing out what the point is that op asked about.
have you done this sort of thing before?
I did antifa work in Palestine. Israeli facists dont wear masks, generally. Tactics vary.
And then? These are the good old boys, probably christians too. That's what they voted for.
DOX them
Sure, because there was no warning of this crap display of cowardice (masks), & everyone just happens to carry cans of paint around to do such a thing. 🙄
These things are going to keep happening. Go buy paint now and pour it into some wide mouth plastic bottles. If you want to stop facsim, you have to plan to do antifa work, just like any work
If I didn't have a family depending upon me, maybe. Escalation such as you describe carries a much higher risk of retaliation, and really is what they are doing this kind of thing for so they can spin it to fit their "victim" complex. While I don't have a problem giving my life for a worthwhile cause, I DO have a problem doing so in what will only in effect be a symbolic effort that is extremely unlikely to accomplish anything significant. I'd rather find more effective (and probably subtle) ways to undermine them.
Said the Germans in 1930s
Always fighting fire with fire tends to leave nothing but destruction in its wake. Do you really think the only valid way to resist is head-on? I guarantee the Nazis would have won if that were the primary tactic used to fight them.
The reason the Nazis lost is literally with violence
Along with plenty of subterfuge.
My sister and I are in Columbus for a concert and we were in a store right across the street from this happening. Shook us up pretty good. I have never seen something like that before.
What did you do to stop it?
Nothing. I was a little busy calming my sister down who basically broke down crying in the middle of the store. And even if she was calm, I would have stayed in the store where it was safe. Those men weren’t exactly there to make friends.
What answer were you hoping to hear?
Oh hell no. Place 2x4s in a place they'll accidentally walk into them. Like your hands at their eye level with a runneng start.
Why the fuck is the photo censored?
algorithms
deploy the caltrops
Deploy the horses with diarrhea brigade
Deploy the cops who hit you with a bicycle
This is what I love about these guys .... they know full well that this is wrong, this is unacceptable and that the majority of people don't support them .... which is why they wear a mask to hide themselves. They are brazen enough to step out in public to display what they want but they are cowardly enough to not want to be identified.
Can of Surströmming, pull tab, throw.
Nooooooooo, not the Surströmming attack. Against the geneva convention
Lol, you made my day brighter with your remark
But then everyone will think you're a nazi. Because you'll smell like all those masked nazis you doused.
Didn’t fucking arrest them. They pepper sprayed people.
Also the short north is a traditional gayborhood.
Tbh why are these neo-nazis soo cringe tho.
You mean it doesn't make them look badass to be carrying intentionally edgelord versions of a swastika flag while wearing matching skull balaclavas in front of the shake shack?
No
Do a march on the same route an hour after they finish and say "We are better than them and don't hate you" do it un masked and see how many people join you.
The sack of shit Government of Putin and their neo-Nazi supporters. Every single WW II veteran rolled in their grave.
How did you manage to mix Putin into this one?
In 2016, the GOP switched from the Grand Old Party to the Government of Putin.
Who did you think is bolstering and growing the fascists in Europe and America through propaganda campaigns?
Russia is a nazi state.
Charge them with hate speech.
No, but there's the "fighting words" doctrine. Depending on the level of targeting of the hate speech, it may not he protected. Let's use Mike Pence as an example because it was a whole thing 4 years ago.
Saying "Hang Mike Pence" to the air is probably protected. Whereas going to Mike Pence and saying "I'm going to hang you" isn't.
The weird greyness is that telling someone to hang Mike Pence can also be a crime (e.g. conspiracy to commit murder or disturbing the peace), so the details and context matter.
Basically, if it's a threat with teeth, it may not be protected. Being offensive is legal. Inciting a riot or threatening or provoking someone into attacking first is not.
For anyone curious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States
Maybe it should be
Screw tolerance some things need to be eradicated. I wish death in the most heinous way on these scum.
Punch Nazis in the Face Again.
Hey they voted for hate and bigotry at the federal level
It should be legal to just round up a bunch of people and beat the absolute piss out of these guys. Just a savage beating to within an inch of their lives, as a warning to anybody who thinks this shit is okay or cool.
Hell, why not take a car and just plow through it? Those fuckers are flagbearing an ideology that developed mass murder on an industrial scale. Let them feel a tiny bit of that on themselves.
Don't worry, it won't be long and they will not need to mask anymore.
The only correct response to this is delivered at muzzle velocity.
Death to Nazis.
Is it legal to "citizens arrest" a Neo Nazi on sight?
No. Dump a bucket of paint on them so they're easier to identity
Fucking assholes
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
It's horrible and racist but at least there is free speech. It's too bad we can't have free speech without this sort of thing. Perhaps one day people will become kinder and less racist. It scares me but the alternative of no free speech scares me more.
I mean this is less of a free speech issue and more of a lack of information and education issue coupled with foreign disinformation campaigns. And specifically for America, also a societal isolation issue. Americans outside downtown rarely get any human contact and it shows, as trust between neighbors deteriorates. This sort of stuff is far less prevalent in countries that put more value in education and building communities.
... that said I think there's a huge difference between suggesting that this kind of thing be made illegal, and criticizing people with power and influence (including politicians) for actively encouraging it and benefiting from it
Paradox of tolerance
Oh, just put your mask on and get back out there, numbnuts
i'm jewish and gay... and more scared of totalitarian "benevolent" governments than nazis. at least nazis let you die. benevolent governments think your thoughts and existence are property of the state.
Lol good luck with that
thanks, i'll probably need it at the current trajectory that the US is on. if i am wrong and being executed by a hoard of Nazis/neo-conservatives in the future, i'll think of you and realize you were right and i was wrong.
Do you realise that other developed countries have free speech too but no nazis on the street? We might no have in our brainwash hymn how free and brave we are, but we are.