Spyke
lemmy.world

I also move unescorted and unarmed (possibly with my kids in tow??) to the one place in the world a would-be assassin would most expect me to be when I'm genuinely afraid for my life instead of just, I dunno, a fucking police station or something.

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adarzareply
lemmy.ca

he's full of shit.

his security detail would not have let him camp his front door with a loaded arsenal.

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That's kind of what I was thinking in my other comment. In this man's version of events, there's no chance he had a security detail because they wouldn't let him do this stupid shit, but then if he didn't, he took one of the worst courses of action possible. But it's so unlikely that he didn't have Secret Service on him at the time that yeah, I'm led to conclude like you did that he's just lying his ass off to try to sound heroic.

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offspecreply
lemmy.world

What security detail? He wasn't even VP pick yet

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lemmy.world

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates.

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offspecreply
lemmy.world

He wasn't a vice president candidate until the RNC a week or two after Trump was shot at.

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He was running against trump to be president. This was also before the RNC picked a candidate.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, and it strikes me as a string of dumb decisions. Like obviously yeah, he was right to get himself and his kids off the mini-golf course. You really don't know with this kind of thing if it's coordinated, but after that... I think Vance should get Secret Service under 18 U.S.C. 3056(a)(7), so maybe I was wrong and he was escorted? But then it's weird as hell that he would've been standing at his door like a "sentry" when the Secret Service would probably want him as far away from entryways as possible. And I still think it's weird to go to his house instead of chilling at the police station for maybe an hour or so while they figure out what the fuck happened.

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lemm.ee

18 U.S.C. 3056(a)(7) https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3056 "(7)Major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates and, within 120 days of the general Presidential election, the spouses of such candidates. As used in this paragraph, the term “major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates” means those individuals identified as such by the Secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate, and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee. The Committee shall not be subject to chapter 10 of title 5."

Yeah he's either a moron and did what he said, or he lies with a story a moron would come up with. The actual story of "The secret service took me to a safehouse" sounds cooler. Or maybe they just forgot to protect him? Lol. I don't know which scenario is the funniest.

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Oh no, when there are multiple options for a Trumper "stupid fucking lie" is always the right one.

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No, he just pointed his gun at the door where his kids are likely to walk in when they are done playing mini golf.

Also, he's probably lying

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lemmy.world

What video did he see? Was it live or after the fact? Trump stood there and kept talking, how did Vance think he had been killed? Oh wait, other commenters pointed out the answer, he's fucking lying.

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It's either that or he's actually got no balls and immediately went into flight mode without waiting to see Trump get up like 5 seconds later.

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Apparently he did book it from a bar, so he may not and is just that stupid and panicky. Which is frankly what I expect rich yuppies arent known for their intelligence.

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Bro wishes he was an action hero so bad he ruined his kids game of putput

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lemmy.world

Uhhh, anyone else thinking this is not how I would expect a Vice President to respond? Or a Marine. I'm not saying he wasn't a Marine. I'm saying no good Marine or VP would respond by hiding before he could finish watching the footage to realize Trump was still alive.

He jumped to flight so fast he thought entering an unsecure location and standing in one, easily avoided, spot was the go to move. For that kind of reaction I could be a better vice president. (And I'd be a shit VP)

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OceanSoapreply
lemmy.ml

He's got kids, his first priority was getting them home to safety and making sure he was ready if anyone was moving in on him.

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lemmy.world

The post was worded like he just left his kids at the mini golf place lmao

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That’s how I read it and I refuse to believe any reality where his kids aren’t still standing at the mini golf place waiting for dad to come back.

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He wasn't even the VP pick when Trump got shot. That happened a couple days later.

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i dont know which is worse, he made this up to make himself look good, or he actually did this. in the first case doesnt he think it's so freaking cringe, it's a north-korean-crying-at-kim's-funeral vibe. or the latter case, oh... boy..

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

My favorite is, "stood like a sentry at the front door". So he stood in a clearly visible area with his rifle upright next to him? He's a Marine, he knows what these words mean. Or he's supposed to at any rate. Maybe he meant he was standing there with a holstered pistol, waiting for visitors to present ID? Did he make sure to change into the uniform of the day and write himself up for two imaginary uniform faults?

If this wasn't a national election I'd be laughing and have ten more jokes about his "combat" experience. It's not everyday the Army gets to dunk on the Marines. Not with most civilians convinced every Marine is better trained than Army Rangers.

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I'm not military myself, but I can attest that most every Marine I've met thinks they're some action hero, even if they've never actually fired a weapon in anger.

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lemmy.world

Sounds like it was just flight mode. With a little bit of cowering mode.

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If this story is even true, which I have strong doubts (sounds like he's cosplaying a strong man), I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case

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lemmy.ml

Every cracker thinks he's Malcom, when he's actually the Klan outside

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bruhbeansreply
lemmy.ml

I did not take that photo of Malcolm X in 1964, no

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bruhbeansreply
lemmy.ml

Nothing is ever original but I didn't get it from anyone

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The second in command, upon believing the first in command had been killed, shirked his duty and responsibility as the new leader of his people instead running home to bunker down himself at the first sign of panic. 🤔

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Probably thought, "what would Donald do?" Pretty accurate considering those protesters outside the white house fence scared trump into the bunker.

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Sounds exactly like the scared little boy he is. So many of them have this same bunker mentality, that if they can't dominate they aren't safe and have to hide. Fine with me, let them go hide while the rest of us make progress.

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Stood like a sentry at his front door? Where he could easily get shot. Nothing about this makes sense.

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The second Trump looked confused and touched his ear, I knew he may be dead

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I like that he just assumes Trump was killed and didn't wait for whatever video footage he was watching to show the part where he got hoisted back up and turned it into political propaganda.

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lemmy.world

Maybe call Trump first? With that thing that makes the calls in your pocket? Fucken nonce

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Hux
lemmy.ml

The VP candidates don’t receive Secret Service protection between their party-nomination and the election?

That seems a little weird.

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Or.... Hear me out... JD Vance... Lied. You know, like a liar would. Like a man who admitted he makes up stories for media attention would. Because... He's a liar

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I thought this was before his nomination? Still a shit reaction from someone who's supposed to be a combat veteran.

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It's honestly very funny to imagine any US Senator thinks of themselves in these action hero terms. Like Mitch McConnell heard about it and put on a bandana and got his lasso.

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This idiot at least knows how to cult signal. He realized he had to pay homage to the cult's Joseph Seed.

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So you're telling me you abandoned your kids, your greatest personal priority, during a moment of crisis Mr. Vance?

And you think we should trust you with the country?

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lemmy.world

I'd do the same. If I were Walz and someone took a crack at Harris, I'd immediately bunker down until I heard more. That's a very normal reaction to have and you lot are trying to make jokes about how abnormal it is.

Or am I weird and the correct human response is to hit play on I Will Survive, drop pants, and helicopter through the course?

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blindbunnyreply
lemmy.ml

Did you miss the part where donny was shouting fight?

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I agree that he is obviously lying, and that is what people should be calling out. Instead people are saying that his made up reaction is irrational. If he actually believed Trump was dead(which he didn't) that would have been a perfectly rational choice. Also assuming he didn't have a security detail, which I'm pretty sure he does.

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

You're not wrong, you're just not trained the way he claims he was. The problem is he decided his house was a safe place, and any assailant would obviously use the front door. This is also after he supposedly didn't even wait to see that Trump was very much alive, literally seconds later.

Nobody is at his house, so it's not safe. That's actually the first alternate a bad guy would target if they didn't know about the mini golf. The door in any room or building is called a "fatal funnel" by the military. Standing there would be the absolute last thing anyone with any basic military training would do.

This guy either got so scared he abandoned his Marine training or he's lying his ass off and thinks we're too stupid to notice.

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saltescreply
lemmy.world

I don't like the sound of a fatal funnel. I guess that's how "Here's Johnny" moments happen.

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Haha, kind of the other way though. I know you have to come through this tiny area. But I can hide wherever I want.

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lemm.ee

Kuınd v ė metėfoṙ f "it'ſ f ſelf difenſ" mentælitı i djenrėl. Hz riſpȯnſ t pṙſıvd deıŋdjṙ ƿėz to ėbændėn Hz fæmilı, hu ƿṙ þıėreticėlı i deıŋdjṙ, t g t ð pleıſ ƿeıṙ ð þret ƿėz þıėretikėlı æt itſ greıtiſt, æ teık ð tuım t ſet himſelf u̇p t æmbᵫc ſėmwėn hu hæd ėpeırintlı kėm t hu̇nt Hm daun ſpeſifikėlı.

H did evrı þıŋ æktcuėl fuıṙaṙmz onṙz aṙ tȯt t n d i ė deıŋdjṙėſ ſitcueıcėn. Uı'm ſṙpruızd Hz on bȯdıgaṙdz did'n kil Hm aut v cıṙ egzæſpṙeıcėn buı ð tuım hı left ð gȯlf koṙſ!

::: spoiler spoiler Kind of a metaphor for "it's for self defense" mentality in general. His response to perceived danger was to abandon his family, who were theoretically in danger, to go to the place where the threat was theoretically at its greatest, and take the time to set himself up to ambush someone who had apparently come to hunt him down specifically.

He did every thing actual firearms owners are taught to not do in a dangerous situation. I'm surprised his own bodyguards didn't kill him out of sheer exasperation by the time he left the golf course! :::

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CTDummyreply
lemm.ee

I bloody knew it, this was always attention seeking/trolling and the “using old linguistic” stuff was bullshit.

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Y did'n no cit, æ yoṙ rıækcėn dju̇ſt co'z Uı ƿėz entuıṙlı kėrekt ėbaut hau Y luzṙz wᵫd rıækt t enı ėmaunt v ėkȯmėdeıcėn f yoṙ frædjil litṙeırı ſenſitivitı.

::: spoiler spoiler You didn't know shit, and your reaction just shows I was entirely correct about how you losers would react to any amount of accomodation for your fragile literary sensitivity. :::

Rıd ð buyo, blȯk æ muv ȯ if it tcrulı ėfendz Y ðæt gȯdam mu̇tc.

::: spoiler spoiler Read the bio, block and move on if it truly offends you that goddamn much. :::

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