Thank you Junior. Don't forget to wear you shoes when you go play in the asbestos pit at school. I put two cigarettes in your lunchbox you can have one at lunch if your teacher says its okay and one on the way to home after your shift at the radium watch painting factory.
The mining and processing of the "fuel" is not. The cost of the plants and the risks neither. That's why nuclear is slowly losing to regenerative.
Btw, from the World Nuclear Industry Status Report 2024 > Key Insights:
Russia is also playing a key role in the supply of fuel
services, involving uranium mining, conversion, and
fuel assembly manufacturing for Soviet-designed
VVER pressurized water reactors, of which there
are 19 in the E.U. and 15 in Ukraine. International
sanctions have had little effect on the business. On
the contrary, the share of Russian supply of natural
uranium, conversion, and enrichment services to
the E.U. all increased between pre-war year 2021
and 2023; VVER fuel imports doubled.
And you can see all of my points confirmed in that report.
Given the up-front cost of any kind of reactor, I don’t think the concept of a usage-based electric bill goes away as long as it’s corporations competing for customers. Maybe eventually it would be like ISPs where it’s a flat fee depending on the size of your connection. I guess it could be totally unmetered then.
Like so many things, it gets a lot simpler if it’s the government supplying the service.
It's not too cheap to meter even when provided as a public service. Nuclear is more expensive than battery + solar, more expensive than wind, more expensive than coal
"Too cheap to meter" was a lie that ignored costs of safety and decommissioning.
Yeah I agree, and you still hear that BS about fusion power, that it will be an unlimited source of cheap/free clean energy.
I guess I could imagine scenarios where power is not metered and is supported via taxes, maybe in a scenario where citizens have a right to energy just like a right to healthcare. It’s not free by any means, but the people who make the most money and thus benefit the most from the infrastructure end up paying into it the most. And the truly poor would get free (to them) electricity.
I really wonder about fusion. Most of the news of energy production higher than energy input is about non-electricity fusion - the big tokamak fusion systems are not yet producing more power than they take to run, but scientists working on them are expecting good results soon
Like when I was a kid fusion was 20 years away and would always be 20 years away. Now it looks like it'll be 5 years away for a while
I like to follow fusion news whenever I see it, and I think the situation might be even worse than you’re describing, lol.
The news about ignition and/or more energy out than in, that refers to the energy actually delivered to the sample versus the full energy released from the sample. So it doesn’t include all the energy needed to charge and fire the lasers that was lost along the way. And like you said, it’s the thermal power they’re measuring, and you lose a huge amount of that power when converting to electricity.
I think we’re still firmly in the “fusion is 20/30 years away” cycle.
More people die from wind turbines and hydro than from nuclear on a per tWh basis. If we actually want to save lives we would require higher levels of safety standards on fossil fuels that are magnitudes more dangerous than nuclear
Hmm but couldn't we then also go even further and assume an idealized muscle car with an effective transmission to its wheels of 1:1 running at its optimal torque vs speed point and thus with a given speed of its wheels rotation for a given time?
Aka convert energy into miles (traveled) or something (with the choice of motor and wheel diameter and everything else standardized ofc.)?
The apostrophe abbreviates the es (to 's) that used to be part of the English possessive (as it still is on some words that end s)
It's a bit shit. Lots of people have trouble with it, lots of English as a second language people have trouble with not understanding what is replaced by the apostrophe
Never forget the future that was taken from us.
Of course, mother!
Thank you Junior. Don't forget to wear you shoes when you go play in the asbestos pit at school. I put two cigarettes in your lunchbox you can have one at lunch if your teacher says its okay and one on the way to home after your shift at the radium watch painting factory.
It’ll come back eventually unless fusion takes over. The power density promises are simply too attractive.
Never mind that pesky burning taste, imagine the power savings!
It always smells like bloody sinus in our house after changing the wafer.
That means it's working!
The mining and processing of the "fuel" is not. The cost of the plants and the risks neither. That's why nuclear is slowly losing to regenerative.
Btw, from the World Nuclear Industry Status Report 2024 > Key Insights:
And you can see all of my points confirmed in that report.
Well that the enormous initial cost and time to construct
I think it's losing due to the cost of the electricity over its lifetime
Thank you Green Peace /s
Bunch of short sighted uninformed hippies
Funded by fossil fuels. The scariest concept to a capitalist is something being too cheap to matter.
A lot of terrible things have been done by good people with good intentions who had no idea what the fuck they were talking about.
Feeling snackish for an
A T O M I C
W A F E R !
and finally, monsieur, a waferthin mint
All wafers, cookies, chips, biscuits, crispbread and hardtack I've ever seen have been atomic.
I struggle to imagine one that wouldn't be.
You don’t eat baryonic baked goods?
I bet it tastes as good as yellow cake
Or yellow snow
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake
Btw, it's written together.
Edit: my bad, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake
Danke, oida.
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowsnow
“Mother, why do all my teeth feel itchy?”
"It's because you haven't been smoking enough. Here, smoke these two before dinner."
Spit out the wafer.
The Children of the Atom deem you a HERETIC! Embrace the holy atom!
I'm so out of my depth in this thread. Is this a real side effect of radiation?
I can’t find it now, but I’d swear to having read an anecdote from someone working with radiation who reported tingling teeth during exposure.
It definitely does a lot of nasty things to the body.
"Timmy you left the aluminum foil on the atomic wafer!!"
"By golly Tim you shattered space time and opened a black hole!"
"My apologies mother and father, I have been absent of clear cognition."
Too 👏 cheap 👏 to 👏 meter
Given the up-front cost of any kind of reactor, I don’t think the concept of a usage-based electric bill goes away as long as it’s corporations competing for customers. Maybe eventually it would be like ISPs where it’s a flat fee depending on the size of your connection. I guess it could be totally unmetered then.
Like so many things, it gets a lot simpler if it’s the government supplying the service.
It's not too cheap to meter even when provided as a public service. Nuclear is more expensive than battery + solar, more expensive than wind, more expensive than coal
"Too cheap to meter" was a lie that ignored costs of safety and decommissioning.
Yeah I agree, and you still hear that BS about fusion power, that it will be an unlimited source of cheap/free clean energy.
I guess I could imagine scenarios where power is not metered and is supported via taxes, maybe in a scenario where citizens have a right to energy just like a right to healthcare. It’s not free by any means, but the people who make the most money and thus benefit the most from the infrastructure end up paying into it the most. And the truly poor would get free (to them) electricity.
I really wonder about fusion. Most of the news of energy production higher than energy input is about non-electricity fusion - the big tokamak fusion systems are not yet producing more power than they take to run, but scientists working on them are expecting good results soon
Like when I was a kid fusion was 20 years away and would always be 20 years away. Now it looks like it'll be 5 years away for a while
I like to follow fusion news whenever I see it, and I think the situation might be even worse than you’re describing, lol.
The news about ignition and/or more energy out than in, that refers to the energy actually delivered to the sample versus the full energy released from the sample. So it doesn’t include all the energy needed to charge and fire the lasers that was lost along the way. And like you said, it’s the thermal power they’re measuring, and you lose a huge amount of that power when converting to electricity.
I think we’re still firmly in the “fusion is 20/30 years away” cycle.
I'm hanging out for when ITER is operational. There's every chance it runs at or just over 1:1
Oh yeah, I think ITER is supposed to have a Q of like 10, so maybe they can produce a net gain system-wide.
More people die from wind turbines and hydro than from nuclear on a per tWh basis. If we actually want to save lives we would require higher levels of safety standards on fossil fuels that are magnitudes more dangerous than nuclear
Look at his face, he's 100% gonna eat that.
Uranium has so many calories, he will never have to eat again
duuude how many degrees celsius do you think one uranium wafer could heat one litre of water by??
Doesn't matter, if you eat one you won't have to worry about starving anymore
There's a timeliness where tiktok kids are eating atomic wafers as a challenge.
It's literally called wafer. Can't blame him
This post was brought to you by Isaac Asimov's Foundation gang.
Atomic wafers made by the techo-church-state? Or have I got this back to front and this is how the non-technical society irradiates its children?
I think this refers to everyday household items being powered by some unspecified kind of uranium engine.
Rare element, I didn't think uranium was ever specially mentioned just "atomics", fusion and fission generally.
Might be my imagination is playing tricks on me.
I could be wrong, it's been a minute since I reread the series.
Wait a sec, I was told American's don't use the metric system...
The imperial system doesn't have any electromagnetism units that I'm aware of, so they borrow from SI.
We can use horsepower hours if you’d like. Or BTU
I'm all for paying my electric bill in horsepower/hours. That feels very American. How many V8s is my house?
I'd be horsepower * hour, since horsepower is a unit, of, well, power, and [Energy] = [Power]*[Time]
But might as well go for an obscure time unit as well at that point. Horsepower Sennights, baby
Hmm but couldn't we then also go even further and assume an idealized muscle car with an effective transmission to its wheels of 1:1 running at its optimal torque vs speed point and thus with a given speed of its wheels rotation for a given time?
Aka convert energy into miles (traveled) or something (with the choice of motor and wheel diameter and everything else standardized ofc.)?
so you're saying we should use truck miles?
I’m gonna need you to repent and convert to metric
🦅
The Watt predates the SI itself. SI borrows the Watt much as it dues with other units.
We also don't use apostrophes for plural words.
Speak for yourselv’es
The apostrophe abbreviates the es (to 's) that used to be part of the English possessive (as it still is on some words that end s)
It's a bit shit. Lots of people have trouble with it, lots of English as a second language people have trouble with not understanding what is replaced by the apostrophe
You were lied to. We use a mix of both, just like the UK.
Do you know which comics is it?
She's right there. This is literally a power play to force her kid to do a pointless task.
"pick up that can"
Of course, mother!
That way you would create more trash.
They lived making lots of "trash" bcs they loved discarding all the trash.
Consumers gotta consume
Do you want to be Malons? This is how you become Malons. /s
What show is that?
Star Trek Voyager
Walker Texas Ranger
Atomic Wafer Challenge
I passed out from the flood of Fallout references that just rushed into my brain.
Kilowat
wat?
Kilowatt. I don't expect Americans to know how to spell it. The American unit is horsepower or BTU
Clean! Safe!! Too cheap to meter!!!
/pffft
Well, if you're a Stalker, it may put hair on your kids бляать.
Gotta power the family brain scorcher, for home defensse
About the hairy chest (don't worry, it's harmless).
never, ever,
shakegive a baby blackrootGreat novel "The Thin Man" by Dashiell Hammett.
After the narrator's wife does something particularly brave a witness remarks admiringly "That's a dame with hair on her chest!"
Putting it in my underwear later...
Dude spent way too much time drawing those chesticles
UWU
Well I'm licking it first!
Wonder if a convenient wall mount would even be worth it, isn't a golf ball sized pellet enough for a lifetime of consumer usage or something?
That's Thorium that will do that.
With Uranium, a reactor only extracts 5% of the enemy in the pellet and the 95% left is called "waste".
Well I rather prefer 95% of my enemies be left as waste and only deal with 5% of them!