The moms lick them clean after birth, and if you’re expecting any animal to be clean I got bad news for ya.
Bonus fun fact the cows tend to eat the afterbirth as well. Source grew up on a farm/ranch, if you want gross learn about prolapse. Guess who had skinny arms as a teenager and got to help keep cows alive till the vet came and had two thumbs? This guy… not sure I should be proud of what I had to do but yeah cows is expensive.
I should have heeded your warning. I swear man, the people on this website can be some of the least fun people on the internet on a pretty regular basis.
You're upset some people don't find it cute to separate baby cows from their mothers immediately following birth?
Have you heard a mother cow screaming for their newborn before?
This is just like saying theres no problem with exotic animal zoos.
When animals are treated as property and a means to make money, inhumane things happen. Then those people pretend they didnt happen, and put the animal bits in nice packages that have pictures of happy animals in fields on them.
Sure, when you've got the societal and material advantage. Go 1v1 a cow out in a field and you might change your mind. Those things are up to 2,000 pounds of brick shithouse. You might not kill one if you hit it with your car.
Given the number of deer that I have seen absolutely total a car/ semi, bounce down the road, stagger to their feet and bound into the forest, I don't think there needs to be a might in that sentence. Deer only weigh about 400 pounds, and they regularly live through car accidents. The cow is just gonna moo at you.
It's higher milk production when the milk that would've gone to the calf goes to people. I think that's easy enough to understand and uncontroversial to say.
That's exactly what someone who understands where that calf comes from and the life it is going to have thinks. Do you look at photos of child slaves and think, "Awww, they're so cute!"
A good rancher is usually the indirect cause of their cows giving birth because they determine when mating occurs.
It wasn't sheer coincidence that so many cows had calves in the same 48-hour period. Dude planned it that way by mating (or artificially inseminating) all of his heifers at the same time.
Pretty please don't separate the newborn from it's mom right after birth only to kill it later and confine the mom in a tiny space and forcibly milk her dry.
Well this post is 5 years old, and there aren't newer posts since 2021 since poster passed away, so I dont know for sure they are abusing animals, but the idea is that calves are separated from their mothers within the first few days usually. Its a traumatic experience for the baby and the mother.
The cow was forcibly impregnated which is pretty rough but thats a different issue.
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If he's the one popping out calves then she made the right choice.
Came into the comments to read about petting baby cows. Left feeling icky. ☹️
Maybe its just cause I'm high, but baby cows are frickin adorable, and now I'm thinking about finding a rancher friend.
Only after they've been washed off. Or dry cleaned. Or whatever, IDK, I'm from Chicago.
We dry clean them. Otherwise they shrink.
So you're more familiar with the end stage of the process.
The moms lick them clean after birth, and if you’re expecting any animal to be clean I got bad news for ya.
Bonus fun fact the cows tend to eat the afterbirth as well. Source grew up on a farm/ranch, if you want gross learn about prolapse. Guess who had skinny arms as a teenager and got to help keep cows alive till the vet came and had two thumbs? This guy… not sure I should be proud of what I had to do but yeah cows is expensive.
It sucks when the innie becomes an outie.
Helping birth breach calves was my least favorite part of the job but it has to be done.
There's a dairy farm somewhat close to me that let's you pet the cows and watch them get milked. It's pretty cool.
I’d prefer it if the cows petted me and watched me get milked
There's conventions for that, you just need to bring your own costume.
Its possible theres an ethical dairy farm but ive yet to see one.
I should have heeded your warning. I swear man, the people on this website can be some of the least fun people on the internet on a pretty regular basis.
I hear wholesomememes is posting new content again, reddit is calling you.
yeah, honestly f this thread. i went from smiling to wondering why i bothered to even look at lemmy today. ☹️
there's gotta be something nice to look at instead!
You're upset some people don't find it cute to separate baby cows from their mothers immediately following birth?
Have you heard a mother cow screaming for their newborn before?
This is just like saying theres no problem with exotic animal zoos.
When animals are treated as property and a means to make money, inhumane things happen. Then those people pretend they didnt happen, and put the animal bits in nice packages that have pictures of happy animals in fields on them.
People need to stop eating meat and start eating vegans instead.
They are also delicious.
After a couple of week, maybe but not immediately.
Damn.
That farmer must have legs for days to have so many calves.
Maybe you being busy with birthing 15 calves in the last 48 hours is the reason why dating a rancher is a hassle?
If you can't handle a partner being largely busy for brief periods, that's a you problem.
Who wants to pet calves?
Someone that doesn't know the mamma has her head down and is contemplating murdering their dumbass.
Friendly reminder that cows are one of the five most lethal mammals (mostly due to there being LOTs of cows, but meh)
Not in terms off K:D ratio
Sure, when you've got the societal and material advantage. Go 1v1 a cow out in a field and you might change your mind. Those things are up to 2,000 pounds of brick shithouse. You might not kill one if you hit it with your car.
Given the number of deer that I have seen absolutely total a car/ semi, bounce down the road, stagger to their feet and bound into the forest, I don't think there needs to be a might in that sentence. Deer only weigh about 400 pounds, and they regularly live through car accidents. The cow is just gonna moo at you.
Lots of assists though. Burgers will get ya eventually.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/179/3/282/103471
Also due to the fact that they weigh 3000 pounds and have feet as hard as a rock. Some of them even have pointy things coming out of their heads!
Are they the highland variant?
"heeland coo"
I'll have you know that my calves are strong and muscular and the nicest feature on my body and everyone is welcome to pet them. You know you want to.
Psychopaths who don't care that the calves are immediately being separated from their mothers for slaughter and for higher milk production.
Trauma all around.
Fake and not gay enough. Separating calves from their moms reduces, not increases, milk production.
It has even been proven that cows have their clique and just their company affects how much they produce.
It's higher milk production when the milk that would've gone to the calf goes to people. I think that's easy enough to understand and uncontroversial to say.
If he's a rancher, this is a beef herd.
Don't you have a cat to feed lettuce to somewhere?
Ka-ching.
Eat them.
Ka-ching.
Eat them when they're raw.
Ka-ching.
We always ate them.
Ka-ching.
Juicy.
Ka-ching.
Give me the knife.
Don't play with your food
The only women who appreciate being confronted with the consequences of their animal consumption are vegans, and vegans hate ranchers.
Have you ever met a woman IRL?
*sees cute calves*
"Oh no the horrific consequences of my actions"
That's exactly what someone who understands where that calf comes from and the life it is going to have thinks. Do you look at photos of child slaves and think, "Awww, they're so cute!"
"Oh no this animal was birthed by an another animal, this is such shocking news" lmao
You should eat some meat, it will make you feel less stressed
But only over time cuz it'll kill ya!
I just traumatized 15 mothers why won't she date me is a hell of a take
His cows gave birth. What do you mean traumatized?
To be fair, birth is pretty traumatizing, but this guy didn't cause it!
A good rancher is usually the indirect cause of their cows giving birth because they determine when mating occurs.
It wasn't sheer coincidence that so many cows had calves in the same 48-hour period. Dude planned it that way by mating (or artificially inseminating) all of his heifers at the same time.
Maybe you should look into a bit of what ranchers actually do...
I've worked on ranches and farms, and I do understand the arguments against meat farming etc. but a rancher helping cows give birth is not the issue
wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rlzj7U5z00&themeRefresh=1
The person you’re responding to is an aggressive vegan reactionary.
They abuse their cat or smth I can’t keep up with the vegan drama these days
Committing the unconscionable crime of knowing where steak comes from.
Willing to bet that cat lives 6x longer than those calves.
No they committed the social faux pa of being a gigantic douche bag.
Being a dick to people doesn’t change them.
Pretty please don't separate the newborn from it's mom right after birth only to kill it later and confine the mom in a tiny space and forcibly milk her dry.
Words of a reactionary extremists who hates kittens.
Thats how commercial milking works though. Which part is incorrect?
Well this post is 5 years old, and there aren't newer posts since 2021 since poster passed away, so I dont know for sure they are abusing animals, but the idea is that calves are separated from their mothers within the first few days usually. Its a traumatic experience for the baby and the mother.
The cow was forcibly impregnated which is pretty rough but thats a different issue.
Milk is murder.
Where did OP say he raises the cows for milk?
And when he kills them for profit, you can play with their organs, making puppets out of Every. Single. One.
That’s not profitable.
Sounds like some weird fantasy of yours.
Cattle farming isn't profitable?
IDK what cattle mutilation shit you’re into.
Just what do you think happens to these animals?
Can confirm, worked in a cow organ puppet factory.
Were they profitable?
Hobbies aren't supposed to be profitable
Weirdo
That is the point
Lol meat puppets....
She probably dumped him for a reason. I doubt the calves are going to make up for his misogyny and liberal use of the hard r.
Dude.
Yea I'm definitely being a bit of a dick. I'm trying to make a joke but I'll be the first to admit it didn't come off as very funny.
Good on you for taking the L. I would have been crushed if it was me
This is a good response. We can't land every joke, especially with strangers online. Next time!