Spyke
lemmy.world

We will be GLAD to return when Christians & Those who fear God and HATE evil!

what

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some_guyreply
lemmy.sdf.org

"God fearing" has always struck me as a ridiculous statement. It's supposed to be a positive, like, that person respected God. No. Jesus preached of a loving God. He was delusional, apocalyptic, and a product of his time and circumstances, but he said his god loved everyone. Throw that tired shit away.

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lemmy.world

You're thinking New Testament God.

Old Testament God is a big mean motherfucker and he will fuck you up unless you follow his very strict rules. In fact, he won't just fuck you up, he will fuck up your entire tribe collectively because you didn't follow the rules.

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lemmy.world

Largely because he wasn't the only God kicking around. Jehovah was originally just another local deity, but he beat up the others. You really were supposed to be afraid of the awesome power your god wielded. Ties back to the language of "you shall have no other gods before Me" - they were around, and they were real, but Jehovah was the baddest of them all.

Moses didn't try to convince the Egyptians to worship Jehovah, he tried to make them scared of Jehovah.

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lemm.ee

I like how the Egyptians considered the Israelite god to be an evil spiteful desert war God that lied about how his people were treated.

There's zero evidence that they were enslaved by the Egyptians and then revolted. But thanks to one king and centuries of retoric, here we are.

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lemmy.world

The funny thing is that they were enslaved by the Babylonians. And they did wander through the desert back to their homeland once they were freed. A much bigger desert.

Because if it took them 40 years to cross the Sinai, something was seriously wrong.

So my guess is that at some point, some Hebrew King was like, "you know what? I like the Persians. They run Babylon now. And FUCK THOSE EGYPTIAN MOTHERFUCKERS! We're changing the story!" And since the King was the voice of Yaweh on Earth, now they were freed from Egypt.

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Walican132reply
lemmy.today

I propose a new cinematic universe, and/or game series of wrestling matches between the gods.

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have you heard of 'hinduism'? pretty sure this is just, like, cannon.

now if you really want to go nuts with it, find a hindu community in mexico.

I think the greeks may have also had something like this but it was kinda cringe if it happened.

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I mean, have you played Smite? It's pretty much exactly that, except it isn't wrestling necessarily, but more like a league of legends style gameplay. But funnily enough the Christian and Muslim gods are not actually featured. Or at least they weren't the last time I played, which was several years ago.

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I believe there was an old history channel show about this. I wanna say it was called clash of the gods or something similar?

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I feel like, the modern approach, if one reads the bible, believes it, and isn't a sick perv or completely nuts, is misotheism.

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I spent a whole evening reading about ancient mystery religions, where Christianity gets a lot of its ideas

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He'll also spontaneously change the rules at anytime and then kill your family.

"God fearing" is a train of thought for a reason.

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"God fearing" is generally used in the context of Christianity and the New Testament God. If you believe in Hell, fear makes perfect sense.

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okay but without fear isn't there no morality? and, like, if nobody's suffering, is there really such a thing as justice? if there's not at least one child in a basement being tortured and treated like dirt, can you even call it a society? I mean, obviously the optimal number of people being horrible tortured in society is "everyone but me, in the sickest ways I can imagine", but, y'know, progress is progress

-every fascist

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Trying to interpret grammar/meaning for what is obviously a real-world schizo post is where u made your first mistake

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I feel like those should be reversed? Or something..?

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They think Halloween is evil and that everyone should hate Halloween.

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"We will be GLAD to return when Christians & Those who fear God and HATE evil! Thank ------ You,"

... yeah, that seems about right.

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I mean. The actuall complaint is to early and Ill agree with that part. I don't like holidays starting up more than a month before. october for holloween, november for thanksgiving, december for christmass, march for saint pats, febuary for valentines and whenever for easter if it can get its act together. Ill give that an exception as mardi gras is its own thing. Oh but if its fireworks can we keep those to just the day of and maybe before and after but we don't need a week of it. blah blah. man yells at cloud.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

You can bet they don't mind Christmas decoration is up 4 months before Christmas though.

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and xmass is the worst culprit. It really annoys me as I like the simple fall type stuff before thankgiving. I totally hate anything xmass wise before the day after thanksgiving. instead it tries to tread on holloween which is nuts.

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for me the more I like it the less I want it going early as it spoils the actual day. im sick of it by the time I should be most hyped.

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I have a problem when stores decorate for holidays so early, but I think in this case they were just selling their Halloween stuff. Lots of people like to get their decorations lined up early, and craft stuff can take time, so I have no issue with them selling stuff whenever.

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Easter is always on the Sunday after the first full moon of spring. Blame the moon for being not in tune with the year.

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They need to just keep all the shit up all year round because that's where we're heading anyway.

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lemmy.world

I'm impressed the people of Tulsa put aside their differences to issue this joint statement

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Lived near there once. It was truly amazing to see how unified the entire populus was. Nobody ever got into fights over anything, and there certainly weren't any stabbings at a bar in town while I was there.

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I just love the idea that their almighty god can be defeated with cheap chinese plastic decorations at the dollar store.

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It's amazing how many things hurt the omnipotent being they worship. The words "happy holidays," red cups, plastic Halloween decorations in July...

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I don't keep up with warlock seniority in New York and I don't know who Magnus Bane is, but I read in another comment that John Ramirez is now a former warlock who says he died, went to hell, repented, and was sent back to life to preach against Satan. I'm not ready to take the guy's word about all that, but it's clear he no longer is taking up the top warlock spot, assuming he ever did, so there's currently no conflict with Mr. Bane holding that title.

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lemmy.world

I mean, I cant say I disagree with the irrational rage of holiday creep. seeing Christmas shit out in october, and halloween shit out in July/August is infuriating.

Far better ways to to approach it than this ridiculous satanic panic and other myriad religious bullshit, though.

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PlantJamreply
lemmy.world

Stores have seasonal sections. When 4th of July has passed, halloween is the next big retail holiday, followed by Christmas. When you consider that empty seasonal sections are the alternative, halloween in July makes a lot more sense.

What I'll never forgive is Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

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What else are stores supposed to do with their seasonal areas other than stock for the next decoration-based holiday?

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Well, people are obviously buying this shit in summer, so don't complain about the stores. It's a worldwide phenomenon, too.

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People like this usually aren't smart or sane enough to understand perspective. They think everyone thinks the way they do and can't fathom otherwise.

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When a minority of people think they are the majority. Fewer trash like them every year.

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lemmy.sdf.org

Have the courage to stand by your convictions and print a return address.

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There's not enough room for the addresses of all the citizens of Tulsa

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Fuck these people. Last year they were playing Christmas carols BEFORE halloween. It’s nauseating.

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lemmy.world

Fucking hell, evangelical freaks fear God too?? Is their entire day just fear 24/7? Afraid of gays, afraid of trans, afraid of communism?! afraid of socialism, afraid of Muslims...

What an awful existence...

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Yes. Fear is the basis of Christian fundamentalism, and it has become a super convenient way for the Republican party to keep them in line.

When fear is the baseline for your worldview, you see boogeymen around every corner.

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I just don't understand how these people are so upset at every single little thing and it's not just upset about it, they think that every thing they don't like is a personal affront to them. Like it's gotta be exhausting to constantly be that upset.

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Yes. They also believe that you’re supposed to teach your children to fear you. I’m convinced they believe that fear is the heart of love. They won’t admit that they think fear is a virtue but they do. Because they don’t understand that fear is a tool. You should have fears, they help you make wise decisions, but they need to be based in reality and regularly reexamined. They have little security and comfort and what they do have is couched in fear or conflict.

Like, it’s such a thing in their lives that if I could have my evil leftist re-education camps, they’d just be teaching cognitive and dialectical behavioral therapies.

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midwest.social

3b. Christians & Those who fear God and HATE evil!

Should we... should we tell them that it's originally a Christian holiday?

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They fear God and seem to think he's evil so I'm not sure they're actually Christian. 🤔

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I agree with the holiday items coming out wayyyy to early and was on board with this person at first… then I realized they’re a delusional fundie and it makes me want to buy extra Halloween stuff just out of spite.

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I'm going to write a LETTER with different COLORED words because I don't REALLY understand emphasis.

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Billiamreply
lemmy.world

Ask JD Vance. I'm sure he knows where all the best deals on couches are.

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He probably gets those fake high class sofas. I wouldn't trust him

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Their furniture prices have gone way up, at least here. Not really all that different from a regular furniture store. You can easily spend over $1000 on a sofa there.

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lemmy.world

Halloween is my favorite holiday. All the WICKEDNESS !

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lemmy.world

My only problem with Halloween is that it's only one day and then everyone stops with the skeletons and the spiders and stuff and their houses get boring again until Christmas.

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There's actually someone who lives relatively near my mother with a giant skeleton in their yard that they put a Santa hat on in the winter. And big props to them. I drive to the town where my mom lives once or twice a month, so I see it fairly regularly.

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lemm.ee

You've never lived in a neighborhood with money. Leaves and turkeys are all over the place for thanksgiving

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lemmy.world

I actually live in a fairly affluent neighborhood (in one of the less affluent houses) and yeah, some people do decorate for Thanksgiving, but nothing even close to either Halloween or Christmas.

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lemm.ee

Decorating for thanksgiving is decorating for thanksgiving. So you have seen it.

Personally I just do a fall decoration thing after summer. Nothing much, but it feels like I'm in the neighborhood I guess.

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I have seen it. I'm just saying far few people do it. If everyone switched from Halloween decorations to Thanksgiving decorations to Christmas decorations, that would be cool, but for most houses, even the affluent ones, it's usually a couple of weeks of Halloween decorations, then nothing until after Thanksgiving when the Christmas lights go up. (Unless you're talking about just a "Happy Thanksgiving" flag or something.)

I mean I get it. Decorating over and over again is a pain in the ass. But that's why I'd love it if people left up their Halloween stuff until they started decorating for Christmas.

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Many people put up generic Fall decor, like pumpkins and scarecrows and hay bales, stuff like that.

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lemmy.world

I half agree with Halloween stuff not being up in October, not that I care about Halloween as a holiday, but at least wait until September.

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cdf12345reply
lemm.ee

Halloween is now a huge cash cow, it’s quietly become the holiday that people spend the most on decorations. So I don’t really blame them.

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lemmy.world

While I agree holiday stuff comes out way too early ….HALLOWEEN OREOS ARE HERE!!!

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lemmy.world

I agree that Christmas stuff comes out way too early, but Halloween decorations fill me with joy. There's not a bad time of the year for spooky in my opinion. People people watch horror movies in the spring. Christmas decorations are specifically tied down to Christmas. Halloween decorations are Halloween or just you think a big skull next to your front door looks cool.

Sadly, unlike the 365-day-a-year Christmas stores I see on occasion, the 365-day-a-year Halloween store is not something I have encountered yet.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

Yeah, but now my teen wants us to dress up as horror characters for college move-in day. I’m still trying to decide if I could get away with a chainsaw arm without being arrested and shot

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I am reminded of one Halloween at ERAU, one of the professors dressed up as a kind of generic ghoul/ghost, Scream mask and all, long black robes, and a Segway so he could spookily float around.

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lemmy.world

If my daughter asks me to do that when she's old enough, I will totally do it. But yeah, maybe not chainsaw arm.

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AA5Breply
lemmy.world

So, machete then? I should take a machete to college move-in day?

The problem is most humanoid horror characters have obvious weapons.

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lemmy.world

You can always be a victim. Or a zombie. That could be fun. Shuffling into the dorm room carrying a desk and saying, "braaaaaaainssss" to the new roommate.

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Good point. I wonder if I even still have bits of zombie costume from my college days … the extra decaying from the last few decades could conceivably make it better

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  1. c. If you are not sure how evil this "holiday" is:

i. Talk to John Ramirez: ex - Top warlock of NYC

If he's a honest to god tchutchulhu warlock that does real magic, I will talk to him and ask to be an apprentice :D

ii. Talk to the Police. All the WICKEDNESS!

I don't think The Police will reply back, they're probably busy with a tour.

iii. Increase: murder, child abuse, worship of satan!

Uh, I guess I can do those, but you really should've asked with a "pretty please".

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nickiwestreply
lemmy.world

From John Ramirez' website:

John Ramirez is one of those miracles with a transformed life through the finished work of the cross. He recounts his former life of being trained as a high-ranking devil worshipper warlock for 25 years of his life. He lived in the dark side in the highest realms of the demonic, specifically Santeria, Spiritualism and Palo Mayombe. In 1999, John passed away in his apartment in the Bronx, went to hell and met the devil and the cross of Jesus Christ. He was put back in his body the same night and became a born-again believer. He overcame the Kingdom of Darkness and has spent the latter part of his life being a fierce warrior for Jesus, uncompromised, preaching the gospel to the nations and setting the captives free.

Yup. Sounds like a reliable, unbiased source.

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In 1999, John passed away in his apartment in the Bronx, went to hell and met the devil and the cross of Jesus Christ.

Is... is the cross a sentient being that can speak? I'm a little behind with my Christian Mythology, but why would the cross be in hell along with the devil? Wouldn't that imply that Jesus went to hell along with it? Am I missing the metaphor?

Things like this make me wonder how many mental illness issues are swept under the rug because they tend to take the form of some mainstream religious belief and not correctly identified as a psychotic episode because it's not polite to challenge somebody's faith even if what they believe is patently ridiculous.

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Anybody want the explain to him that if you’re serious about spiritualism you either don’t call it that or call it American spiritualism. If someone tells me they’re a spiritualist I assume they mean they’re generally agnostic but incorporate a few aspects of spirituality in their world view, not that they’re out there performing seances

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I don’t think The Police will reply back, they’re probably busy with a tour.

They could reply with a message in a bottle...

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Lol I used to live in Owasso! And halloween was my favorite holiday. My grandma was an over-decorator and would go over the top with decorations for every holiday. I know for a fact she bought Halloween decorations at this very store because I helped her pick them out. So that lady can get bent. She definitely doesn't speak for everyone in Tulsa.

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I can imagine the person who wrote this talking like Beth Grant's character in Donnie Darko.

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I like how people like this think that a business will somehow be upset that they and their crazy friends/family won't be coming to their store. Threatening them with a good time!

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This screams dear frozen yogurt, you are the celery of desserts, be ice-cream or be nothing. Zero stars

Except, when you believe in something you sign your name to it.

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lemmy.world

It is distressing to see such a horrendous disregard for the English language. It's bad enough without battering it this much.

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Welcome to the InsanePeopleFacebook community. Our Facebook crazies have absolutely no understanding of basic English. Many of them are native English speakers nonetheless.

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if not sure, try:

speaking to the head satanist talking to the cops who are SO EVIL (i mean, yes, but I don't see how that correlates to a time of year) increase murder (maybe good dependign on who) child abuse (please don't, what the fuck is wrong with these disgusting freaks that they can't even suggest having a good time without hurting someone who doesn't deserve it, as if the injustice and suffering are the fucking point of everything they do?), worship satan (you do you, but it could be fun, im willing to try)!

I don't know if that's how they meant it to be read, but it's how I read it.

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lemmy.world

I think with the "Talk to Police" line, they're saying that if you talk to the Police they will tell you about all the wickedness they encounter around Halloween. It's full-on nuts tho lol

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Halloween or Hallowe'en[7][8] (less commonly known as Allhalloween,[9] All Hallows' Eve,[10] or All Saints' Eve)[11] is a celebration observed in many countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day

lol.

The wikipedia entry also has some cool historical pictures showing trick or treaters over a hundred years ago.

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Honestly the only thing they got right is Halloween has been going celebrated way too early granted not as bad as Christmas is but yeah we really need to keep holidays in their months other than that these people can go to hell

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lemmy.world

Well my main point is that plenty of the people who live there are good people. They are not crazy right-wing evangelicals. Every single one of those states has progressive enclaves.

Suggesting you kill millions of people because some or even many of them are bad is, in itself quite morally questionable, but when you take all the people into account that have not done any wrong, including all of the infants, it become unquestionably immoral by almost any standard.

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lemmy.world

What in the world does that have to do with exploding a nuclear weapon in Oklahoma?

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No, I don't. Because there are 49 other states, many of them conservative.

But your desire to kill millions of infants for what you consider to be the greater good is noted. Israel has the same attitude.

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

Well technically, it's the receiver of this mail that's in OK, not sure where the sender is from

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nickiwestreply
lemmy.world

The postmark is Tulsa, so that's where it was mailed from.

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It’d be hilarious if the receiver was in like Massachusetts or Ontario. An insane fuck you from Oklahoma

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lemmy.world

I will make it a point now to buy things at big lots. There are several in my area!

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lemmy.world

shopping at Big Lots to spite someone due to a letter you saw online is even more dumb than the letter itself.

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I wouldn't think the average Big Lots shopper to be such a discerning consumer.

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lemmy.world

I can only assume you're saying this because you don't like Big lots for some reason?

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lemmy.world

That would be a weird and unhinged assumption to make.

But you are the kind of guy that would go to a store to spite someone you've never met because of a picture you saw on the internet, So I guess thats kinda par for the course for your thought processes.

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lemmy.world

The only thing I can really say is that you are indeed a completely random idiot.

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lemmy.world

I may be a random idiot.

but I'm not so stupid as to be influenced by a random picture, of a random letter, that i happened upon on the internet, so much that it drives me to rush out to a store and buy stuff as if I am genuinely spiting someone who isnt even aware of my existence.

But keep projecting, its cute.

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Ummm good for you I guess. Although your argument is a non sequitur.

Why you think this is a negative is beyond my comprehension.

What if I told you I occasionally shop at big lots because it is convenient for me?

Am I then influenced by this post?

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