Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Awesome. While you're at it can you convince Jordan Peterson to permanently move down to Texas with you? We'd love to get rid of that shit.

Honestly, most Canadians are more ashamed of Peterson than Bieber and that's a fucking accomplishment.

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msagereply
programming.dev

Push them into Florida and then evict Florida into the abyss.

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Given enough time, nature will do that for us!

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

Why would you be ashamed of Bieber? Did he do something I missed?

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mPonyreply
lemmy.world

Biebs is just being a young rich kid. Only thing is he's 30 now. He doesn't do as much silly stuff as he used to, which is good.

I was kinda worried about him for a while: rich kids surrounded by "yes men" don't always make solid decisions. Extrapolate that to worldwide fame and things can go seriously fucky.

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Yeah I'm not a Bieber fan but being ashamed of someone for threading the needle to become a super star is weird.

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ZhaoYadangreply
lemmy.world

Yes, it appears Trudeau’s laws are working as intended. Excellent.

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Just to be clear, these are not Trudeau's laws. Canadian anti-hate speech laws have been on the books for decades.

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kbin.run

Did you see that alien post, they beamed up a cow, because a human called them 'grass puppers'. So hilarious. Do you have a favorite breed? I love them all.

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lemmy.ca

I did not know that was a thing and any connection was by accident. lol

I too love them all but my favourites are shepherd dogs, specifically . Great companions, super intelligent, and some of the most beautiful animals on the planet. I also have a massive soft spot for Bull terriers because the are the cutest and funniest dogs in existence.

I know you said you loved them all, but do you have any breeds that lead the pack? (Pun absolutely intended)

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kbin.run

Nah, I've had doggy friends in various breeds and mutts over the years. I had a Great Pyrenees named Thistle, super friendly, and enthusiastic. Worked as a livestock protector, brave and faithful. But couldn't understand the danger posed by the road in front of his farm, and thus was his lift ended, all too soon.

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lemmy.ca

I am sorry to hear that, thistle sounds like they were a good pupper. I've lost one too many to the ignorance of roads myself and it is never fun.

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Thanks, I appreciate the sympathy. And as a result ALL Great Pyrenese are wonderful beasts in my estimation. It's funny how a breed can become so lovable once I've developed a relationship with member of that breed.

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Sounds like this Canadien policy might just be working as intended.

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Stop giving this brain damaged cretin the attention he craves

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lemmy.ca

There is free speech and hate speech, and we don't allow one of them... never have, never will, and that's not Trudeau, that's us being Canadians, being kind, and taking care of each other, and that's what makes us different from Americans.

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RvTV95XBeoreply
sh.itjust.works

Clearly there's some passion here. Can you elaborate on this? As someone who is not Canadian, I'm not fully in the loop. Are there credible examples of anti-hate-speech laws in Canada being used to prosecute people for things other than hate speech?

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lemmy.world

This person is just upset because they are a bigot. Check the mod log, it's full of slurs and anti immigration rants.

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Nailed it. John_McMurray is another joke of an example of someone on the right.

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YeetPicsreply
mander.xyz

Elaborate before we all assume things about your reading comprehension.

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YeetPicsreply
mander.xyz

Okay, so basically you don't know where you are, what you're replying to or what you're trying to say.

Neat.

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lemmy.world

Most of us Canadians never have to worry about hate speech laws Joe, because most of us aren't running around saying hateful, race baiting, genocidal speech. If you worry about hate speech laws getting you, maybe you're the one with the issue

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That's exactly it. It's always hate speech that those who are braying about free speech are trying to protect.

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lemmy.ca

Of him being concerned about hate speech laws? It's in the link.

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lemmy.world

You want examples of what exactly? Rogan using hate speech? He's one of those guys that instead of talking hate speech, he'll invite a bigot on his show, listen to the bigot being a bigot while Joe goes "that's interesting.... I've never thought of it that way"

In any case I'm commenting on his concern with our hate speech laws, which only hateful bigots are ever concerned about. Is regular folk don't do that kind of stuff

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So no examples of Joe Rogan being hateful, race baiting or genocidal speech.

You guys dislike him because he will talk to anyone, even people you disagree with if I'm reading things right.

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Joe Rogan probably has a DUI on his record or something like that that prohibits him from entering Canada.

I knew this lady who went to the same saloon in Seattle that I frequented. Anyways she was a Canadian citizen but she got a DUI in the USA and she couldn't go home until she did the requirements for entry.

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lemmy.ca

This. So many Canadians don't understand Section 6. Freedom of movement means that you can cross interprovincial boundaries freely, live anywhere you want to live in Canada, and leave and return to Canada any time. It doesn't mean you can drive without license, registration, and insurance and it doesn't mean that the government can't require you to quarantine when you return.

The Constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms should be a required, full semester course in highschool and a passing mark of 80% should be required to graduate.

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Most likely. As a Citizen you have right of entry so you cannot be denied entry to the country if you can get to the border. The US never has to let you in.

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He is free to stay right where he is. Canada doesn't need him.

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Ah yes, the free speech of blocking highways with semi trucks.

From the "It's okay to run over protestors" crowd. That's speech to them too.

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Bookmeatreply
lemmy.world

He goes (or went) regularly to hunt. Not sure whether he'll continue that with his current stance.

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Ah; another good reason for this news then! Canada needs the wildlife more than it needs Rogan.

Out of curiosity, was he hunting grizzlies?

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lemmy.ca

I don't listen/watch Rogan anymore but I'm assuming the erosion of women's rights and project 2025 and voting rates and seizure of the supreme court has gotten him up in arms about his own country right? /s

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I miss the old podcast. I never knew that I wanted a long form interview with a taxidermist, a climate scientist or someone that travelled the rainforest looking for new species. But having experts in their field come on and talk about their subject showed their drive and love for their fields. The pundits where really off putting.

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lemmy.ca

If he thinks we're far into the erosion of individual rights now, wait till he hears about our Conservatives!

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The funny thing is that Americans think that guns and hate speech make them the freest country in the world.

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Canada won't let Proud Boys nor Hells Angels across the border as they are declared terrorist organizations or somesuch.

This is Rogan showing out for them.

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Well that should give Trudeau a nice boost in popularity, I'm guessing. I'm relatively sure we're not crying in our Molson Canadians because a 'roided out douche isn't going to come here.

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Calling it Trudeau's policy is just another lie from Rogan.

Those hate speech laws have been on the books for a lot longer than Trudeau has been involved in politics.

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Danielle Smith is working her way through those who have been charged for violating Covid restrictions.

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lemmy.world

"The guy that played the janitor from News Radio has thoughts."

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tempestreply
lemmy.ca

He also provided color commentary on people eating bugs.

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that character was uneducated but street smart. Joe is uneducated but street dumb too.

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lemmy.ca

Joe Rogan peut donner un bisou à mon petit trou de cul au sirop d'érable.

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lemmy.world

I don't really get the point of Joe Rogan any more.

As a comedian, he's okay? He's probably no better than over a dozen other comics, and his appeal seems to be limited to a certain demographic nowadays.

As a commentator on MMA, many in combat sports doubt his ability to commentate compared to other, more experienced analysts. Some of his takes are outright biased or bizarre, and while he'd undoubtedly kick most people's ass, he's apparently not that active in grappling any more due to injuries.

That leaves the podcast...which probably has a lifespan that won't outlast his other grifts. Once the comedy work dries up, the MAGA love-in is gone, and he stops working for UFC I don't really see what's left to prop his name up.

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"Joe Rogan says he wont visit a country with a higher freedom of the press than his"

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lemmy.ca

What exactly is he talking about? Which law prohibits the specific 'free speech' he is referring to?

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chickenreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

“They can come down on you for a lot of things. They seized up the bank accounts for people who were protesting, the truckers. People who were donating to the truckers, they seized their bank accounts,” Rogan said.

I don't know what "a lot of things" is gesturing at, maybe he doesn't either. Use of payments censorship to shut down protests without legal proceedings is legitimately worrying, though this is something right wing commentators tend to fixate on to the exclusion of the same stuff when used against people who aren't their audience. Here's an article that I think has a good perspective on this.

All these cases happen somewhere distant to a person in the US or Canada, so could it be that the Truckers struck a nerve because this was the first time that citizens of a democratic Western nation were subject to payments oppression? The answer is no. Cashless payments censorship has a long and established tradition in Western countries. It’s just that it’s not recognized because it’s been focussed on marginalized groups such as welfare recipients.

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“They can come down on you for a lot of things. They seized up the bank accounts for people who were protesting, the truckers. People who were donating to the truckers, they seized their bank accounts,” Rogan said.

One, this is normal. Large amounts of money moving in sketchy ways always gets FINTRAC's attention. The only reason this is getting traction is because white people got caught up in it--instead of Muslims or Tamils or suchlike--and white people finding out that laws apply to them is always funny to watch.

Second, wait until he finds out what Homeland Security can do. FINTRAC is actually pretty lightweight compared it's American equivalents.

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As far as I can tell either the National Post added Trudeau to the equation or Canada Proud, which they cite. It's sacks of rotten sphincters all the way down.

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You'd think this is good news but National Post basically exists to serve the Conservative party so all this tells me is that a lot of Canadians are loving the idea of identity politics.

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The National Post newsroom has the slightest hint of residual journalistic integrity. Their Opinion Pieces are straight up right wing propaganda.

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Background investigations intensify.

Why won't you try going to Canada Joe?

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aussie.zone

Please tell me that's a direct quote because he's word saladed himself into giving the impression he hates free speech

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RvTV95XBeoreply
sh.itjust.works

Really quality content from a 1-day-old account. Thank you for your insightful contribution and definitely not being yet another troll from the troll farm.

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lemmy.ca

I would also point out that we already have " public encitment of hatred" as a law, and Canada has set bars or things that something must meet in order to classify. Adding the same crime to online places shouldn't be that wild.

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Fair enough, but if they wind up misusing the power it won't be long before someone makes a big stink and brings it to the human rights tribunal claiming they violate due process, and then it will be up to the courts to decide. I'd be surprised if it did, since historically our committees and groups like this tend to do less, rather than more, but it may happen.

It won't punish 'free thinkers' but it will punish those who have used online spaces as a free space to incite hatred, as it has been defined in Supreme Court hearings, which involves it being hatred targeted towards "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability." Based on this definition, it cannot be used against those who hate Trudeau/make jokes about him for things he has or has not done, as he is not distinguished by colour, race, religion, etc.

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