Their point is Steam likely doesn't condone this behavior; they just weren't aware of it. Reporting it to bring it to their attention will likely get it removed.

No part of my comment suggests otherwise.

I mean… as much as it’s dumb, everyone has a right to make a list and review games how they wish, right? Some gamers don’t like loot boxes, others don’t like [checks notes] DEI or PoC in games. Better those people don’t buy a game and end up toxic elements in the gamespace, right?

Making crystal clear to people like this like they are not even remotely welcome in your community after they let it slide that they have hateful vile opinions is the only solution. Everything else offloads the pain and suffering onto the victims in favor of not doing shit to actually kick those toxic people out of any respectable place that they can make their tiny pathetic voices of anti-trans, racist and sexist tirades of insecurity rise above a cacophony of shame and insults thrown back at them.

Throw eggs, shame these people, and though we can’t make them go away, after all we define ourselves on our desire not to wish harm or erase groups of people, there is no conflict here, these people have always been here and will always be here, the question is how afraid they are to let their disgusting hate hang out in daylight at any particular time. Bigots are cowards and they will fall in line as they always do when they realize the crosshairs are beginning to turn back around onto them, our job is clear.

Basically the correct play here is to force bigots to be closeted bigots, make them deal with what LGBTQ+ people have endured, see how their fragile snowflake personalities shatter on the tiniest bit of friction and pushback from someone who isn’t afraid of them.

Aka, let’s just have a nice time without them ok :)

Lootboxes influence how the game plays. Inclusive characters is [an issue of] perception, not gameplay.

Opposing inclusion [of other kinds of people] is different from opposing mechanics.

Even that's woke, according to their definition.

"Straight"—sexuality = woke "White"—race = woke "Male"—gender = woke

I guess games just can't have any characters in them at all anymore, in case one of them has a race or a gender that gets referenced.

Wow. I thought to myself surely they would be using some blatant dog whistle for the removed, but nope, steam is fully letting them rate games negatively by using every slur in the book.

This definitely looks much worse for steam than any of these sad, lifeless homunculi. I reported them and made note about how letting this group continue looks awful for steam and not taking action reads as endorsement.

Christ almighty. I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt (and struggling tbh), but this is just inexcusably bad

"Immigration is woke but also native people are woke," and the rest of the list is similarly frothing and delusional. They struggle to finish a sentence without adding a hard R.

This looks like it's for a different steam curator than the one in op's screenshot. Still probably a tos violation ofc

Looks like it's time to report bomb.

Yeah it is. I was around when woke first started making its rounds and it was used to describe people who were aware of social injustice against them, mostly black people at the time. I’m not surprised that the word made it into common use, just surprised at the audacity of people using it as a strong negative against equality and inclusion.

About 100 years ago the word was intellectuals.

Gay people exist.

BippinThatBop took that personally.

Just say you don’t like gay people

The curator has a review for Summer House that mentions a white kid sitting with a black kid and labels it "subtle pro-DEI messaging". I didn't know that black people being included in things makes it woke.

Yeah except in the post they're trying to argue that LGBTQ people existing in media is woke. News flash LGBTQ people exist and want options in their media to be able to reflect who they are whether that's through more character customization options or stories that include LGBTQ characters. That shouldn't be political and at least for some of those things I don't see why gamers complain like character creation stuff it is literally just giving you more options when you make a character.

Here's a hint dude: there's politics in everything even if it's not the main theme. If you don't like it, it's probably because you don't like the politics on display.

The existence of queer and non-white people is not leftist, it's objective, observable reality, free of political bias.

Is it incessant virtue signaling for your gay son to show up with his boyfriend to dinner?

As a millennial, there were very few games where I wasn’t shuffled into an obligatory straight romance. The only real options were Fable and The Sims. I was desperate enough that I learned to program and mod video games solely to make gay options. Swapped out models, or pain stakingly changed every single “sex == 1” conditional.

I can’t really think of any big games that force you to be gay.

Tofay i learned that the existence of Women, Queer People and Non-whites is political.

who are watching sports or having Thanksgiving dinner

Did one of your relatives talk too much during sportsball?

It's interesting because your examples are things that are absolutely crammed with right wing stuff - all that pro-war military pageantry and flag shagging, a lot of countries have it in degrees but America is intense for it. The right wingers in the sport crowds are loudly political too, and notoriously so at Thanksgiving... and of course capitalism has just totally dominated all these things, superbowl is an advert and merchandising business that has a game go on between the main sponsorship events.

What you're really talking about is that those capitalists making adverts are trying to appeal to modern demographics and audiences that are no longer impressed by the bland fantasy vision of america which old propaganda relied upon.

It's not a virtue if it's just normal. Trying to repress normal things and pretend they don't exist, and then getting mad anytime you still manage to see them is just a way of life that is going to lead to constantly being angry.

Translation: including anybody who differs from you in any way.

Coward.

Nope woke means being aware of systemic injustices. What you describe is people with a saviour complex being ineffective, annoying, failures at praxis. Alternatively, rightoid snowflakes being triggered by being reminded that people different from them exist. The Acolyte is a nice recent example: It's no Andor but definitely not a bad show, by recent Star Wars standards definitely one of the good ones. Yet a whole mob of people got triggered because, what, I don't even get it. And before anyone says "It breaks with canon" no it fucking doesn't.

Conveniently everything is categorized as "white or political," "cishet or political," "Christian or political," so everyone you don't want to listen to will have to shut up.

Find me a subject that isn't at all political and you'll have a very dull subject that has zero potential to affect anyone in any way.

No, woke means calling out systemic racism and fighting back against it.

What YOU call “woke” is “my fee fees hurt when straight white man not world savior”

You pathetic shit.

having Thanksgiving dinner

Funny, I always remember is the cranky old men bring up politics during Thanksgiving dinner. I'll take your word on the movies though. I gave up watching them because I started noticing how conservative movies are. Much easier to find an environmentalist villain then a environmentalist hero.

Either that or you're fine with people not being able to have a voice as long as you have.

You sound like an incel who'd vote RP. Back to the basement with you.

for the uninitiated

My brain is barely able to handle amateur nouns!

Conservatives didn't even know how to use a computer in the 90's. Stormfront was created in 95, but it's userbase was tiny compared to those private facebook groups today.

You and I converse very differently XD

They are legitimate reviews.

Maybe they're shit games.

Sure. For me the score is one of the last things I consider, so review bombing and what ever the opposite is called aren’t all that important.

I'd be angry if you told me 4chan had an "algorithm" too... It had a raw ass bump order and that's it (does that reward rage bait? Kinda yeah but so does any activity metric). Algorithms design to guess what posts you want to see are the worst part of modern social media which refuses to just show you all of a user or group's posts in order.

it was a play on who watches the watchers, not a serious question

Ebert famously reviewed a few things without giving a score; I believe one of them was Human Centipede about which he said, to paraphrase, "You'll like this if this is the sort of thing you like."

There's a big aspect of genre siloing in gaming. Games tend to be developed very hard into specific genres and tropes, not all of which are things I like. However, game developers don't necessarily like to be categorized that way, so the way things are marketed can get very muddled. I like games that are the sort of thing that I like, and when creators are actively working against me finding out what kind of game they made, I don't always know what games are a good match for my tastes.

Then add to that: Often games will get very high ratings because the niche of players they cater to thinks the game is sitting near the apex of that niche--and nobody outside the niche is playing that game. But if that niche is, say, visual novels (which bore me to death), I'm not going to like a game. The high rating is, to me, a false signal.

But this is where curators can help! The fact that it's a specific person with that specific person's tastes is good if I happen to share those tastes. It helps me to avoid high-rated games that don't contain the elements I enjoy in a game; and to find the games that cater to my tastes but aren't marketed in a way that I recognize.

That information was actually added to Steam a while ago. There's a gold box to the right of the store page under the compatibility section that says what third party DRM a game uses as well as if it requires agreeing to a EULA.

I'd also recommend the SteamDB browser extension if you want more information while browsing the store. It adds a ton of features such as displaying when a game was last updated, historical pricing, automatically skipping the age gate page, and a bunch more.

You start from a false premise. The reason for curators on Steam is that recommendations pro/against a game appear on the game's store page.

It allows you to avoid stuff that someone already played and knows you won't like.

Seriously? Lmao I'm a guy and I love to crochet

Do you expect them to see anything below surface level in any form of art?

Maybe they should realize that video games are art, and since art is "gay" then they should just stay away from it entirely.

Can anyone make a curator account? Just literally copy and paste every comment, but recommend them all instead. From the couple of posts that people have made, you could probably ratio the original pretty quick.

If you have a real solution, I'm open to suggestions.

Their cause being… recommending against buying some games?

Fallacy of false equivalence. Your example is of actual criminal activity (vandalism) resulting in tangible damages (the vandalized home now needs to be repaired, also surrounding properties lose value due to criminal activity).

Please feel free to try to make your point again, this time without using a logical fallacy or bad faith argument.

Share this link with steam. It links to what their definition of “woke” is, and it’s egregious enough it should goad Steam to take action.

They’re being intentional and trying to toe the line. Here’s them low key complaining that they can’t make a big deal about trans VAs.

just looked it up -- the version on steam is in fact Animal Jam: Play Wild -- the 3D mobile version made in Unity for mobile devices -- ported to PC

Is this male version of a g spot joke?

It's state sponsored racism/sexism.

We should strive to give everyone the same shot, through universal free education, healthcare, etc.

Equality begins at birth, not when you're just out of high school.

Instead we do a shit job at being a functional society and decide after the fact that none of it matters and you gotta get them quotas going.

As long as DEI, Affirmative Action, Positive Racism w/e you want to call it exists, you will always have people questioning the reason behind a minority person/woman's employment, and their performance will always be scrutinized harder. Are they actually talented, or are they here to fill a quota? That is a valid question no matter what anyone will say.

“I don’t recommend this game because it has gay/female/black people in it.”

^ literal hate speech

If you made a list of these that were offensive to Christians would it be bigotry? What about if it was offensive to Muslims? The left? The right?

I'm sorry but we aren't standing on some mountain top where we can dictate that shit. As long as no one is getting hurt and everyone is an adult who are we to judge? I don't agree, I find it distasteful sure, but it's narcissistic if I was to think I can judge.

Let people like and dislike stuff. You'll only entrench their opinions by restricting them in any case.

Define homophobic. If your definition is hating LGBT people, then its not homophobic. They are free to dislike content that contains political topics they generally dont agree with. Thats not homophobia. You gotta be a bit more accepting of contrarian views.

Clearly not. Its possible to not hate and accept something while chosing to not support it at the same time in your communities.

Not op but I don't particularly see the problem all of those things are true (well I know basically nothing about lunar new years and historical context for it but ye)

Left and right. Being right wing and prefering not to play/support games that you fundamentally don't agree with is fair. Its not "homophobic" for them to notice things they personally don't align with and not recommend it to other people themselves. Even i can see that, and im ftm.

Comparing not recommending games based on politics they dont agree with, to racisists. Congratulations.

Steam Curators curate recommendation lists that users can subscribe to based on what they like / don't like.

If I already don't want to hear anything about LGBT, then I will follow curators like this. It's not the other way around.

hateful agenda

Who defines what this is? Hopefully not anyone with an agenda themselves...

LMAO excellent username

Then make a stink about that and they'll fix it. Most likely nobody tested if the system breaks when you have so many curators blocked (because honestly, who would have this many) and it's a simple fix to do.

I agree, that is a bannable offense.

By this logic, i could accuse you of wanting to say the N word but only not saying it to avoid getting banned. So FACTUALLY nothing like that happened but you realize how shit would the justice system be if it worked like this? I could just insert thoughts and wants into anyone's head, and crucify them. If something didn't happen then it didnt. Call it out once it does. Dont' assume.