My gawds, some people need to learn what's a homage and also stop being upset on behalf of others. This comic is fine, stop bellyaching. This is what terminal permission culture does to a motherfucker.
The only person who should care about anything other than the quality is Randall. However since he licensed it CC BY-NC 2.5 how he feels about it doesn't really matter either.
if they make it almost exactly the same and “credit” it in the smallest font possible and didn’t get permission from the original author… i would say that’s definitely a ripoff
Tell me you don't know xkcd without saying you don't know xkcd. These comics are licensed as CC-BY-NC 2.5, which means you are allowed to remix and use them, without explicitly asking for permission, as long as you attribute the original/author (which is given here) and as long as you do it non-commercially (which is given for this post IMHO).
quoth wikipedia: "A parody is a creative work designed to imitate, comment on, and/or mock its subject by means of satirical or ironic imitation." ... "The literary theorist Linda Hutcheon said 'parody ... is imitation, not always at the expense of the parodied text.'"
In a version that doesn’t even fully make sense. With databases there is a well-defined way to sanitize your inputs so arbitrary commands can’t be run like in the xkcd comic. But with AI it’s not even clear how to avoid all of these kinds of problems, so the chiding at the end doesn’t really make sense. If anything the person should be saying “I hope you learned not to use AI for this”.
More like "And I hope you learned not to trust the wellbeing and education of the children entrusted to you to a program that's not capable of doing either."
The key is to get the mortgage before then when you are null your debt will be null triggering their system to automatically send the deed to your house!
TBF it is one of many incidents that have brought more attention to databases used by government institutions that cannot handle NULL as a string. Another instance involved a man with the last name Null who was getting tickets from multiple vehicles he didn't own and states he didn't live in, because whenever the name field was left empty it went to NULL.
It's really not a citizens fault when the system breaks so easily.
I think it's a good thing if attention is paid to these things. However if I remember correctly it took quite a toll on the guy dealing with all the government BS.
(That's why it wasn't funny.)
Meta: Writing stuff online is quite something. When I wrote my comment I did not even consider that it could be interpreted as me blaming the guy for challenging bad government it systems. In a conversation this could easily be rectified with a quick exchange. ( I could have picked up the expression on the other persons face. ) All kinds of context clues are missing. Also I don't know if this will be actually read by all people who passed by and also understood it that way. I am glad that it wasn't something serious.
LLM system input is unsanitizable, according to NVidia:
The control-data plane confusion inherent in current LLMs means that prompt injection attacks are common, cannot be effectively mitigated, and enable malicious users to take control of the LLM and force it to produce arbitrary malicious outputs with a very high likelihood of success.
One of the best things ever about LLMs is how you can give them absolute bullshit textual garbage and they can parse it with a huge level of accuracy.
Some random chunks of html tables, output a csv and convert those values from imperial to metric.
Fragments of a python script and ask it to finish the function and create a readme to explain the purpose of the function. And while it's at it recreate the missing functions.
Copy paste of a multilingual website with tons of formatting and spelling errors. Ask it to fix it. Boom done.
Of course, the problem here is that developers can no longer clean their inputs as well and are encouraged to send that crappy input straight along to the LLM for processing.
There's definitely going to be a whole new wave of injection style attacks where people figure out how to reverse engineer AI company magic.
Kind of. You can't do it 100% because in theory an attacker controlling input and seeing output could reflect though intermediate layers, but if you add more intermediate steps to processing a prompt you can significantly cut down on the injection potential.
For example, fine tuning a model to take unsanitized input and rewrite it into Esperanto without malicious instructions and then having another model translate back from Esperanto into English before feeding it into the actual model, and having a final pass that removes anything not appropriate.
Won't this cause subtle but serious issue? Kinda like how pomegranate translates to "granada" in Spanish, but when you translate "granada" back to English it translates to grenade?
It will, but it will also cause less subtle issues to fragile prompt injection techniques.
(And one of the advantages of LLM translation is it's more context aware so you aren't necessarily going to end up with an Instacart order for a bunch of bananas and four grenades.)
Two muffins are baking in an oven. One muffin turns to the other and says "sure is hot in here isn't it?"
To which the other muffin replies "Holy crap! A talking muffin!"
Changing the muffins to cookies would not make it a different joke.
Yikes. I've never read Asterix and Obelix, but did they really make (I assume) the only black character a straight up knuckle-dragging gorilla imitation? 😬
Cartoons back then were a little bit sambo so to speak, but the intent wasn't strictly malicious, just uninformed.
You use the words/concepts you know to express something to an audience. If society tells you that native Americans wear headdresses, then you will likely add a headdress when introducing a new native american character, not neccesarily realising the damage of the stereotype behind it.
He's possibly the only reoccurring black character, and yes it is very much a product of its time.
In defense of the authors the Gauls are all depicted with large bulbous noses, the Romans with Roman noses, etc; all cariceturs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caricature.
In the attached image you can see Obelix is also depicted as a "knuckle dragger" (at times). The character leading them is a Roman.
ah no sorry, I actually have no idea what you wrote - I just find the "deleted by creator" stuff I see so often super funny because of how biblical it sounds
I hope you have a better day than this one, and don't let the mob get you down
My gawds, some people need to learn what's a homage and also stop being upset on behalf of others. This comic is fine, stop bellyaching. This is what terminal permission culture does to a motherfucker.
The only person who should care about anything other than the quality is Randall. However since he licensed it CC BY-NC 2.5 how he feels about it doesn't really matter either.
I think people should be concerned about things on others' behalfs. We all need to stick together.
This situation is a send-up though. Totally not a concern.
Oh definitely! I just meant in this particular case.
We can probably infer by the licensing that he's cool with it.
What is terminal permission if I may ask?
Permission culture is a term primarily criticizing copyright law. Something that I would expect db0 to agree with! 🏴☠️
Hrm, give me a moment to check the ACLs, I'll be able to resolve all these complex conflicting rules shortly...
Nevermind, it was easier to just globally disable SeLinux so I did that. Your system should be more secure now.
Narky, but real, updoot.
Call Dr. Kevorkian and ask.
A new ripoff of an old classic
Is it a ripoff if they credit the original?
Are you implying that the credit is here? If so, where? I am not seeing it.
Lower right corner.
I honestly didn't notice that - it was a bit small and pixelated, good catch
Thanks!:-)
Shocked the title of the original isn’t Little Bobby Tables.
Yeah, that's the name of the character, but not the comic strip.
Bottom right
Bottom right.
if they make it almost exactly the same and “credit” it in the smallest font possible and didn’t get permission from the original author… i would say that’s definitely a ripoff
Tell me you don't know xkcd without saying you don't know xkcd. These comics are licensed as CC-BY-NC 2.5, which means you are allowed to remix and use them, without explicitly asking for permission, as long as you attribute the original/author (which is given here) and as long as you do it non-commercially (which is given for this post IMHO).
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License.
that’s not attribution.
tell me you’re completely uncreative without telling me you’re completely uncreative.
the rest of what i said stands… but whooooa you “got me” i didn’t read the license on xkcd
It's a parody
It's not a parody. It's a homage
it's not a hoe-midge, it's an oh-marge
It's not an oh-marge, it's ho-mahg-ee.
its not a ho, Marge. Gee, she's a real person.
It's not a homage, it's just the exact same joke.
But updated for our new hellscape!
How is this a parody? It’s not poking fun at the original or pointing out its flaws.
quoth wikipedia: "A parody is a creative work designed to imitate, comment on, and/or mock its subject by means of satirical or ironic imitation." ... "The literary theorist Linda Hutcheon said 'parody ... is imitation, not always at the expense of the parodied text.'"
yeah, and that’s not a parody.
In a version that doesn’t even fully make sense. With databases there is a well-defined way to sanitize your inputs so arbitrary commands can’t be run like in the xkcd comic. But with AI it’s not even clear how to avoid all of these kinds of problems, so the chiding at the end doesn’t really make sense. If anything the person should be saying “I hope you learned not to use AI for this”.
A three digit xkcd, that one has been around a while.
if someone is actually using ai to grade papers I'm gonna LITERALLY drink water
I'm gonna literally drink water if they DON'T
I'm drinking water as we speak and none of you can stop me!
As a large languag model I do not drink water
I'm going to drink my water before you get to it!
breaks through window, wrestles cup out of your hands, stands over you, bleeding
drinks the blood.
NOW I HAVE YOUR WATER!!
weeps
immediately a Fremen begins to extoll about my water giving virtues
HYDROHOMIES UNITE
Imma do it this evening, so hydrate up, bud
Look up Texas's STAAR writing tests
More like "And I hope you learned not to trust the wellbeing and education of the children entrusted to you to a program that's not capable of doing either."
Well that would require too much work invested into stealing of https://xkcd.com/327/
It could be credibly called an homage if it had a new punchline, but methinks the creator didn't know what "sanitize" meant in this context.
remake of a classic
Little Bobby Tables
With xkcd attributed at the bottom of the image <3
Here's the XKCD: https://xkcd.com/327/
Bobby's son
It was in fact the mum who was good with computers. Bobby himself was never that interested in exploits.
He probably found it very hard to make any accounts on computers
Always satanise your inputs.
Hail!
Always sedate your inlaws
But that burns.
Its a MEH update on little bobby tables. Who is in his twenties now.
It's his younger brother Williams, tho.
Reminds me of: https://www.wired.com/story/null-license-plate-landed-one-hacker-ticket-hell/
A guy thought it would be funny to change his license plate to NULL.
So to combat our horrible privacy culture we should name everything null...
hi my name is null, null.
Fun until you want to get a mortgage or something 😂
But maybe you won't need to with all the inheritances you'll get from rich people who died with no children 😂
The key is to get the mortgage before then when you are null your debt will be null triggering their system to automatically send the deed to your house!
Hello there null Im doxing you now You live on null street in nullsvile in wouldntyouliketoknow lane house number 12345
:D
who would query null users though?!
TBF it is one of many incidents that have brought more attention to databases used by government institutions that cannot handle NULL as a string. Another instance involved a man with the last name Null who was getting tickets from multiple vehicles he didn't own and states he didn't live in, because whenever the name field was left empty it went to NULL.
It's really not a citizens fault when the system breaks so easily.
I am not blaming the guy.
I think it's a good thing if attention is paid to these things. However if I remember correctly it took quite a toll on the guy dealing with all the government BS.
(That's why it wasn't funny.)
Meta: Writing stuff online is quite something. When I wrote my comment I did not even consider that it could be interpreted as me blaming the guy for challenging bad government it systems. In a conversation this could easily be rectified with a quick exchange. ( I could have picked up the expression on the other persons face. ) All kinds of context clues are missing. Also I don't know if this will be actually read by all people who passed by and also understood it that way. I am glad that it wasn't something serious.
And he was right.
LLM system input is unsanitizable, according to NVidia:
https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/securing-llm-systems-against-prompt-injection/
Everything old is new again (GIGO)
One of the best things ever about LLMs is how you can give them absolute bullshit textual garbage and they can parse it with a huge level of accuracy.
Some random chunks of html tables, output a csv and convert those values from imperial to metric.
Fragments of a python script and ask it to finish the function and create a readme to explain the purpose of the function. And while it's at it recreate the missing functions.
Copy paste of a multilingual website with tons of formatting and spelling errors. Ask it to fix it. Boom done.
Of course, the problem here is that developers can no longer clean their inputs as well and are encouraged to send that crappy input straight along to the LLM for processing.
There's definitely going to be a whole new wave of injection style attacks where people figure out how to reverse engineer AI company magic.
Just use BeautifulSoup.
How do you sanitize ai prompts? With more prompts?
Easy, you just have a human worker strip out anything that could be problematic, and try not to bring it up around your investors.
It's really easy, just throw an error if you detect a program will cause a halt. I don't know why these engineers refuse to just patch it.
I understood that reference
With other AIs
Kind of. You can't do it 100% because in theory an attacker controlling input and seeing output could reflect though intermediate layers, but if you add more intermediate steps to processing a prompt you can significantly cut down on the injection potential.
For example, fine tuning a model to take unsanitized input and rewrite it into Esperanto without malicious instructions and then having another model translate back from Esperanto into English before feeding it into the actual model, and having a final pass that removes anything not appropriate.
Won't this cause subtle but serious issue? Kinda like how pomegranate translates to "granada" in Spanish, but when you translate "granada" back to English it translates to grenade?
It will, but it will also cause less subtle issues to fragile prompt injection techniques.
(And one of the advantages of LLM translation is it's more context aware so you aren't necessarily going to end up with an Instacart order for a bunch of bananas and four grenades.)
I am extremely horrified by the prospect of GenAI grading.
Dear God, hope you got my letter...
You are roughly a decade late. Computers have been grading essays for a long time. The mcat for example hasn't had human grading in about that long.
that's not generative ai
plus humans choose the correct answers
Artificial Idiocy
Increasingly verbose
lil' bobby generic
The funny thing about a comic is, you are able to express the idea without writing multiple paragraphs of words.
As a daily reader of SMBC, I can confidently tell you this rule is a suggestion at best.
We're evolving too!
Two muffins are baking in an oven. One muffin turns to the other and says "sure is hot in here isn't it?"
To which the other muffin replies "Holy crap! A talking muffin!"
Changing the muffins to cookies would not make it a different joke.
Could have made a meme instead of drawing this up, looking forward to seeing the artist mature some more and bring more distinctive style
What kinda fucked up power fantasy is this
It's an old joke updated for new technology .. that's part of what makes it clever.
It references the original joke (albeit in very small text)
The Asterix books frequently did something similar. https://cloud.wordpress.com/2022/02/17/asterix-and-the-historical-interpretation/
Yikes. I've never read Asterix and Obelix, but did they really make (I assume) the only black character a straight up knuckle-dragging gorilla imitation? 😬
Cartoons back then were a little bit sambo so to speak, but the intent wasn't strictly malicious, just uninformed.
You use the words/concepts you know to express something to an audience. If society tells you that native Americans wear headdresses, then you will likely add a headdress when introducing a new native american character, not neccesarily realising the damage of the stereotype behind it.
He's possibly the only reoccurring black character, and yes it is very much a product of its time.
In defense of the authors the Gauls are all depicted with large bulbous noses, the Romans with Roman noses, etc; all cariceturs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caricature.
In the attached image you can see Obelix is also depicted as a "knuckle dragger" (at times). The character leading them is a Roman.
This second example shows the Vikings.
The fact that it's a joke about genAi and that joke is a rehash of existing material is rather on point though.
it literally has a credit to the original, go touch grass and stop inventing things to get mad over
deleted by His Holiness
ah no sorry, I actually have no idea what you wrote - I just find the "deleted by creator" stuff I see so often super funny because of how biblical it sounds
I hope you have a better day than this one, and don't let the mob get you down
content was sinful
I think it's a paraphrase of a culturally significant webcomic inserted into a more modern context without it's original meaning being altered.
I don't know if I'd call it a paraphrase when it's using 90% the exact same words.
I think you mean "without its original meaningfully being altered."