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lemmy.world

It does add context though.

If I just said “it adds context”, it’s not seen as a counterclaim to your claim. It’s just a new standalone statement.

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lemmy.ml

This is the correct answer. It doesn’t address the multiple mistakes in English and spelling that the OP ended up writing, though. Nor does it address the spelling variant, although that does not seem to be the particular focus of the original enquiry.

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Nor does it address the spelling variant

Tho = 3 letters, all necessary

Though = 6 letters, 3 unnecessary

So, brevity.

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sh.itjust.works

Additionally, "tho" is more casual and observational in usage, "though" implies more a more deliberate counterpoint.

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The great news about language is you determine how it’s used, so if you want to superfluouate your words, go for it. I suppose the only limitation on how you use language is your ability to communicate with people you need to. And, like, some laws.

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kbin.social

Exactly. An exclamation point or bolding your letters sure does add emphasis, but if you actually wanted to make it a clear counterclaim, though or tho does the job a whole lot better.

Edit: Bolding the Bolding

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I sort of use it like as a hybrid of

yes and

yes but

Might be the people-pleaser in me but I find it helps to make a contention both more palatable to hear and likely to be engaged with since you're agreeing but also clarifying where you sense incongruity

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lemmy.world

Looking for an explanation, yes? It's a linguistic convention, totally. I mean, you know, we add a lot of unnecessary words, like, serious. It's superfluous verbage. Look, I know it seems to be a recent thing, but it's, like, been going on for a long time, right?

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I think this has been my favorite answer in any of these threads. So concise and tongue in cheek, I love it.

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lemmy.today

a simple exclamation point or bold letters could do

I’ll be your huckleberry.

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I just want people to stop using “to” when they mean “too”, maybe it’s my adhd brain, but that is not something I can just read through. It pretty much always throws me off and I have to reread the sentence.

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Narrator : Unaware of what year it was, Joe wandered the streets desperate for help. But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Joe was able to understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded pompous and faggy to them.

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lemmy.ca

I get this is likely a reference to something, but casually using slurs and linguistic elitism are both pretty lame.

Edit: Anyone care to share their issues with what I said rather than simply downvoting me?

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I'm going to guess that it's Idiocracy, in which case, those words are used because society had devolved into mindless rednecks. And EVERYBODY knows mindless rednecks LOVE those words.

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lemm.ee

To me it just looks like an opportunity to virtue signal by throwing someone else under the bus in terms of their reputation. It doesn’t allow the other to save face.

Also, the decision to categorize those things as slurs, which is the same category that contains the n-word, seems like an escalation of severity. The escalation of severity seems to only serve the purpose of taking the other person down a peg, and not of improving the state of discourse here.

I get that many people see it as a matter of: see bad behavior, call it out, improve the world. But there’s a cost to that kind of thing, just like there’s a cost in cutting down trees to improve an ecosystem. So to invoke that process, and cause that cost to be paid by the group, for a problem of insufficient size, to me seems counterproductive and more aligned with role playing heroism than actually enacting it.

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"removed" isn't a slur? Someone should tell all the homophobes who've yelled it at me over the years, they'd be devastated.

My goal was not to bring anyone down or to make myself feel superior, but to cause reflection on how the things they say can affect people. How would you suggest I should approach this in the future?

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kbin.social

@lvxferre there's an old trend in New Zealand and Australia to put "but" at the end of a sentence too, but.

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I catch myself doing that when speaking, and it always makes me feel stupid. It's like the speaking part of the brain is waiting for the thinking part to add a counter-point, but the thinking part is just like "sorry, I got nothing".

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@lvxferre because of the intonation, I think it's likely the first one. It's often used in a semi-humorous way.

Eg. "Charlene's prettier than Stacey. Stacey's dad owns a brewery, but."

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Chan, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought of this, tho.

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Using "though" has a long history.

Tho is just for brevity, like drive-thru instead of drive-through.

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Lo, here we witness the claimant’s protest: “though” be not used in the past under any circumstance and still never shall it be shortened and used colloquially hence—for we all know: language may never change, even in the slightest!

….but really tho

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lemmy.world

It was never needed in the past

Citation needed.

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lemmy.ca

Now? It's been happening since cell phones became common. It started as lazy typing (or just bad spelling) and it just became a thing shortly after.

Any word that can be shortened was shortened, like ur example. If punctuation isn't understood, it's left out. The worst part of this is that spelling and grammar checkers are "smart", so they integrate slang as "correct" and probably type mistakes for people automatically.

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feddit.de

The spelling "tho" was commonly used back at least in North American informal writing in the 1980s already, and was proposed as a shorthand brief already by Thomas Shelton in his 1626 Tachygraphy. Predating cell phones a bit.

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I am not sure if all my nieces and nephews were aware of Thomas Shelton or any of the first internet memes.

Still tho, you had a good knowledge drop.

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lemmy.today

Some influencer probably started using it... And now everyone is like "language evolves ok?". :)

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feddit.uk

No idea. It's a bit like when people suddenly started sentences with "I mean".

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I had to learn English as an adult and I can assure you it has existed for many years. I had to learn it like many other peculiarities of English.

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It’s a shortening of though. If you don’t understand how “though” works as a word, I honestly don’t know how to explain it. My best bet is to just absorb as much English as possible by watching TV and reading fiction.

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