Spyke
lemmy.world

I reject "sus" being zoomer exclusive. Among Us has been a huge hit for 5 years now, was popular across demographics, and made an appearance in Glass Onion, which is the boomeriest Millennial movie ever.

The rest of it, sure, go off fam.

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enkersreply
sh.itjust.works

I agree, but for a different reason. I had an Aussie friend that said "sus" all the time on IRC, and that was in the 00's, so it well predates Among Us.

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Ok, maybe suss is Australian. I was surprised to see it listed with "on cap" because I've heard suss being said all my life by a wide range of people, but I did grow up in Australia.

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kbin.social

I have appropriated “sus” and “yeet” and sometimes “gucci”…I think those don’t even come from the same gens of slang, but they feel right in a sentence. Especially yeet.

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vindreply
lemmy.world

Yeet and Gucci are early zoomer at best, mostly later millenial terms as they became popular closer to 2015 than 2020

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Falreply
yiffit.net

Once you consider that "yeet" is the opposite of "yoink", it really seems like it's actually a millennial word. Though interestingly, my spell check considers "yeet" correct but not "yoink"

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I'm pretty sure my friends and I have incorrectly appropriated yeet. We'll use it in the normal way but we'll also say yeet like sweet or hell yeah. We're all upper 20s now so it feels rather hilarious.

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DillyDailyreply
lemmy.world

Thank you! I thought I was going mad because I distinctly remember saying "sus" when I was in highschool in the early 2000s. It was definitely used both as "go sus it out" but also "don't sus us miss" was something we said all the time when a teacher tried to catch students smoking behind the portables.

So it sort of just feels like Gen Z expanded the definition.

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I get most of my slang from among us and then I learn the correct usage on tiktok and then I purposely do it wrong because aging is fun and I'm a parent.

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Filthy little hobbitses always stealing, always thieving, trying to take away our precious

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kbin.social

I don’t know what it means either. I’ve heard the other two in casual conversation, but “no cap” is completely new to me.

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in this specific context it means bullshit, like "no bullshit," but it can't be used literally any other way because "to cap" someone means killing them

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lemmy.world

As a millennial, describing something as fire, or mids, that was us. Y'all youngings are appropriating old people culture. That's how we described weed in the 2000s.

Edit: also when kids were saying 'ratchet', that was a direct descendent of Nurse Ratchet in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Ken Keasy used that name to be a homonym for "rat shit." Next time you hear so e drop 'ratchet,' ask them what it means. They won't even know.

It's weird how old slang crops up like that. Ratchet was like, the 60s.

Edit2: I predict "kind" will get taken in, like "KB" or "kind bud" to mean "dope". Like "you those shoes are kind, fam".

I also predict that "beasters" might make it's way in, but "beast" already meaning "dominate" might trip it up, because "beasters" were weed that was grown rushed with phosphates in the soil in indoor hydroponic labs, and that shit had lower THC content than most mids, looked better, but smelled off. Dead giveaway was hollow stems. Idk. Calling beats by dre headphones "beasters" would be a fitting insult to their products.

Fleek died the moment someone managed to get that fire started. Good riddance.

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Psythikreply
lemmy.world

"Yo" is another one that the Zoomers love. I haven't heard so much usage of that word since the mid 90s. And "bruh" is just another form of "bro"/"brah".

Another good example is when twerking made a comeback a few years ago, despite not being a thing since 2000s hip hip.

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there was a book (Terry Pratchett?) I read as a young adult that had a character called Yoless because it was the 90s and he didn't ever say "yo" and everyone thought that was notable, weird and hysterical

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Breh was around in like 2010, bruh really isn't that much different.

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I hear mid and I think oh shit, cheaper for more that isn't overpriced shiny crystal smelly shit but still almost smokes the same.

Kinda like every movie, song, and game ever describes as mid lol.

I swear people can't just enjoy popcorn shit anymore which is all anything mid is. Sometimes I don't want to watch the best movie ever. Sometimes I just want to watch stupid lighthearted comedy that doesn't take itself too seriously. Sometimes I just want another stock standard Meteoidvania or Harvest Moon clone.

When you quit chasing new highs constantly, even the old highs work well. And I don't even smoke lol.

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I take it as average rather than great, which while it does have a less than stellar implication, doesn't seem like it is inherently bad. Moreso a "meets expectations" with a hint of "there are better options available"

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, we called it brick weed cause they were packaged to save space not the product... and we generally didn't fuck with it because it wasn't even green by the time it was up in New england

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I bought a batch of that shit once that had been dyed green - you could tell because most of the green pigment ended up concentrated at the end of the fat stems. Nastiest shit ever, I'm probably lucky to be alive.

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I've had Indiana ditch weed. There's basically no THC in it at all. But it's useful to sell to other high school kids who aren't aware of that and then think they're high when they smoke it.

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ShadyGrovereply
lemmy.world

We used to call Mexican brick weed regs, or reggie, which I guess was slang for regular. Though I'm not sure why we called it that because it was much easier to find "fire" weed...which we called krypto or crippie. I think that was a south Florida thing though.

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Ah, I'm in a border state, so brick weed was super easy to get. I had a buddy that would stuff a quart zip lock full for $40.

I personally find all of the high quality weed to be too strong. I don't smoke enough to have a high tolerance, so even one hit can be too much. I wish shops would sell lower thc stuff, although I've had good success with D8

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I had never heard that slang for weed before in my life and I was meeting up with an old friend about 10 years ago who was going to get weed for me and he said, "I can get mids." And I said, "I don't do pills, man. I'm just interested in weed." I thought he said "meds."

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

ask them what it means. They won't even know.

I'd argue they'd know what it means but wouldn't know the origin. Words evolve. I just learned this etymology now but I've always known what it meant implicitly when said. Tbh I assumed it was more local/rural slang when I was younger because I mainly heard it from other kids, not in media, etc.

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I guess what I mean is if you asked them with regard to the etymology... Ratchet is a word. It has a meaning highly disparate from "shitty." Like, it's a tool. A noun. It does things.

So kids using this word against its actual meaning, ask them why and they won't understand.

Like if I asked you why you were using the word ratchet (say yesterday), which is a tool that helps turn bolts, in place of the word "shitty" and you'd be all 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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lemmy.world

I thought it was an AAVE corruption of "wretched". Nurse Ratched was certainly that, but it didn't derive from the character's name. Urban Louisiana slang, more like.

Is teaching AAVE a thing anymore or did they decide it was racist? I can't keep up. I know for a while there was an argument that teaching AAVE at schools was designed to entrench a kind of linguistic class ghetto, but then you also had the liberal "hecking valid" argument, and I'm not sure what the current party line is.

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

Nurse Ratchet has nothing to do with African American Vernacular English, or "ebonics".

Just gonna add that bringing AAVE and education into the conversation (which has nothing to do with ebonics or education whatsoever) makes you come off a bit like a possible race baiting dog whistler. It's an amazingly easy thing to avoid, so I've tagged you with a cute lil nickname to keep track.

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I'm not the person accusing people of thought crimes for being class-conscious, I swear to God I'm so fed up of the internet.

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I had this conversation with one of my kids recently:

Her: "This thing is gas!"

Me: "Gas? Why are you talking like your grandpa in 1965?"

Her: " What are you yapping about? They don't know what 'gas' means!"

Me: "You wanna bet? Ain't you ever heard that Rolling Stones song? Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's a gas...?'

Her: "Bruh..."

Me: "Don't shoot the messenger."

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

It's amazing watching young adults discover that their new fad is a rehash of concepts that are decades old.

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lemmy.world

In the 90s, when everyone started using the word fat/phat, I found out from an article that it's usage that way could be traced back to 1920s jazz musicians. Everything old is new again.

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I always thought the word "ginormous" (a portmanteau of gigantic and enormous) was totally modern, but then I read a book published in 1943 by a Battle of Britain Spitfire pilot which had "ginormous" in its glossary section.

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lemm.ee

Me looking at this meme nearing 40..."pretty sure we used sus and fire as teenagers".

Then again I didn't grow up in USA and we had different "hip" words.

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lemm.ee

fire and sus have been around for ages but gen z can have the lack of caps.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

I've heard fire my whole life but I'm calling cap on sus being as popular or common for so long

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xorreply
sh.itjust.works

fire has always been a weed strength measurement... fire being the most best...

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xorreply
sh.itjust.works

so white gen z is just claiming all the black stuff from the 90's?
i guess it's par for the course...

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

I think every generation has claimed fire mixtapes.

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xorreply
sh.itjust.works

back in the 1920's, mixtapes were rolls of paper for player pianos...

they called them "fire mixtapes" because you could use them to start a fire...

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lemmy.world

I was using sus as a kid 30 years ago. I'm quite confused by how it's apparently a gen Z thing

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dfitzreply
aussie.zone

Heard sus my whole life in Aus, we shorten everything.

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Yeah, I'd never heard "no cap", but the other two almost feel old at this point.

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lemm.ee

My favorite part of growing older is misusing slang to pain The Youths™

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lemmy.world

Growing up, I thought adults were out of touch. Now I realize that kids just take some things way too seriously and it's hilarious to exploit.

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lemmy.world

My millennial (or maybe gen x) roommate spends a lot of time on tiltok, so she's always teaching me (a gen z) new 'gen z' slang.

It's fun, but on the other hand she has a pretty skewed perception of young people. She's always watching engagement-bait content online, and she seems to think most people my age are complete idiots.

I mean don't get me wrong, we are idiots, but we're not a different species or anything lol.

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Nazreply
sh.itjust.works

Highly disorienting to realize that the world is run by idiots.

And also invented the atom bomb.

In the glim flickering light, a moth invents a lightbulb which outshines the sun.

I try not to think too hard about it, for optimistic reasons.

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People who complain about younger people are the biggest idiots who forgot that other idiots said the same about them a long time ago. Same with those who complain about older people a little too much.

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Yup. I went to school and college with some monumental idiots back in the day. I had my moments too, of course. Idiocy transcends generations.

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she seems to think most people my age are complete idiots.

Very boomer of her.

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No. Gen Z is the future. The rest of us are dinosaurs.

Love, someone who manages students at a university.

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set_secretreply
lemmy.world

Same, it was just a happy accident that our slang made it mainstream I guess.

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lemmy.world

It's all predominantly young kids adopting/appropriating American Black vernacular and calling it their own. Millennials did it, genz does it. Go ahead and down vote me, my back hurts.

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SCBreply
lemmy.world

See people say this like it's Black vernacular but dont recognize that it's just urban vernacular. Urban vernacular changes frequently because there's more people around. The internet adopts it quickly, and it spreads from there, as the actual initial definition of a memetic concept.

There's a reason society as a whole doesn't co-opt rural Black vernacular, and it's because it isn't actually racially-based.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

Exactly. I just had this argument with a couple of friends who were raised rich white kids, in the rich white neighborhood. They were criticizing me for appropriating black vernacular, and wouldn't believe me that my entire neighborhood and school spoke that way. It's inter-urban (poor) slang, not specifically black. Most of my neighborhood was Mexican, yet they all used these terms. Granted, they have different inflections on the words, but the vocabulary is pretty much the same. Anyways, now I have friends accusing me of racism for speaking the way I've spoken my entire life. I just hadn't loosened up enough to speak that way around them before. Ain't identity politics grand?

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lemmy.world

I find it charming in a way. Urban vernacular becoming the lingo of even contemporary rich kids.

Then again, I just said I found something charming, so maybe I'm out of touch.

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I think you'll find it's the children who are wrong

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There's MLE (multicultural London English) in the UK. Must be similar all over.

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lemmy.world

I like to mix and match to annoy my younger brother. Example, "fr fr, no skibidy, on cap".

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Mossheartreply
lemmy.ca

I'm almost 37 and dunno what based, rule, or no cap mean. They all make me cringe though.

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I've found that if I don't say those things and just treat younger people with respect then I don't get made fun of for being old so much.

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lemmy.world

Wait, it's named after a guy!?!

Yo give me my walking cane, I'm out of this game.

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lemmy.world

You're not, but someone did. After the fact, I mean. Like not as part of its origin. Like as a lie.

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No, no. This was Li'l B's blueprint from the outset. Li'l B has bitches and sex every day. That's how he became BasedGod. It's like One Punch Man.

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Well these things always have their roots in the past and get re-appropriated from other uses, but I don't recall seeing the term before 2 - 3 years ago.

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lemmy.world

I use these terms sometimes, but I'm 26, I don't feel old enough to be a millennial but not young enough to be Gen Z. I'm in college now though and I'm older than all my classmates and that makes me feel old as shit.

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lemm.ee

I... use sus all the time at 38... but I'm a gamer, and it's kinda gaming slang.

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Coreidanreply
lemmy.world

That’s because gamer slang is made up of whatever shit kids are saying

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lemmy.world

I feel like fire was ours unless it's just been a localized slang. I feel like I've been saying it for like 10 years, maybe more. Maybe I just got the ole dementia.

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My wife and I (both Xers) have started frequently trolling our son with "stop the cap!" when he's being... economical with the truth. Somehow that level of low-grade, passive-aggressive sarcasm seems very fitting to our generation.

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For some reason "fr" is so frustrating. I am such a boomer :/

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lemmy.world

I'd like to upset some niblings with "fr fr, ong"... Does anyone know if "fr" is pronounced as one word like in "from", or if I'm supposed to just say "eff arr"? Same for "ong," please.

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lemmy.world

I'm Gen-X. My 13-year-old daughter is under instructions to never call me 'bro' or 'bruh.'

My nephew's do that to my brother-in-law. They also call him 'dude.'

Dude is weird to me, but calling me 'bro' is just wrong. I want to be called Dad or Daddy. She's mostly okay with that.

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mastodon.social

I am not partial to informal nicknames. If I stand with a group of my male coworkers I usually greet them with “gentleman” or something that. I don’t work with a lot of women but I’m not sure what to say to a group of women. Ladies seems kind of demeaning and gentlewomen sounds weird to me. I usually just go with miss or ma’am.

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Having come up in the 90s-00s, the few times I've been called "daddy" were a little surprising at the time ("it's just something I say, don't overthink it", etc), but thankfully said moments were in the rear-view quickly enough.

In later years, my kids didn't add the "y" and one even asked why other kids say it that way. Hell, I'm ok with "dude" from my kids or their friends, in certain contexts, but "bruh"? Might as well try calling me "son" or "boy", and see how that flies, child. 🤪

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Bawitdaba, da bang, da dang diggy diggy Diggy, said the boogie, said up jump the boogie

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lemmy.world

Oh, I assumed it meant like no upper bound. "She's the best basketball player, no cap."

I haven't tried to use it, but I guess I was close enough to understand what they were saying.

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I'd like to know the backstory for why "cap" became the slang, not so eager to find out why the asses are dead

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enkersreply
sh.itjust.works

I'm going to offer my own theory here, which doesn't seem to be in line with the most popular theories which seem to me to be creative guesses at the origin.

I think it's possibly from twitch.tv culture. "Kappa" was a popular emote with a smug face often used to denote sarcasm. Plenty of streamers have used the phrase "No kappa" to indicate they're not joking, and some shortened it to "no kap". Since it was passed on orally, it became mistranscribed to "no cap." People were looking for an explanation for a phrase that didn't exist, and inadvertently invented one, which became the predominant theory that you'll find if you search for "no cap origin."

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This was my theory too when I first heard it said. It wasn’t till later when I saw it spelled that I realized it’s “no cap” and not “no kap”.

I still got perfect understanding of the meaning from thinking about it in terms of the Kappa emote.

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No, I'm pretty sure it came from hip hop culture, like a lot of slang recently. I'm basing this purely my anecdotal observation of the kind of people who use it most frequently.

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I'm going to go with this theory, because I at least know what Kappa is

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jballsreply
sh.itjust.works

I started saying cool beans ironically years ago and now can't stop!

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lemmy.world

I just realized that I’m probably older than George. At least in the earlier seasons.

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I went to high school with a guy that looked like him at 16.

It was unfortunate unless someone needed to get alcohol for a party.

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lemmy.world

I was particularly surprised at how quickly millennial sayings aged.

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lemmy.world

Which, um.. which ones are we not supposed to be saying anymore..? Asking for a friend...

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sh.itjust.works

Calling things 'retarded' in both a good or bad way. Calling bad or annoying things 'gay'. Adding izzle to the end of words.

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I remember being in complete shock sometime in the late 90s when millenial high schoolers went around calling everything gay. Like mouth dropped open the first time I encountered it.

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My observation as a Xillenial:

Millenials tended to have negative-meaning slang. It's like the generation expressed its angst.

Zoomers tend to have positive-meaning slang. This generation does not try to follow the Boomer dream and focuses its energy elsewhere.

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Can someone also explain 'go brrr', cause I just think of vibrating doorstop springs, but that can't be right...

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It's from a meme, "Money printer go brrrr" which was I think a spin off of the "It prints money!" meme for the original Wii (Edit: did some research and I think they're unrelated.) Its the sound of the machine, printing money, it go brrr.

I've seen it used for all kinds of things, but "go brrr" is basically a dismissive way of talking about how "winning" something is.

Edit: I think Picard Manuever explains it better actually, and while I don't think my usage note is untrue from how I've seen the meme used in evolutions, I'd have to agree that it originally and usually takes the form they described.

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It's just the sound of some machine running, but the meme is usually something along the lines of:

"You can't do X, you have to do Y!"

"X goes brrrr"

The humor is in stubbornly doing something in a dumb way.

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Pretty sure it's supposed to be the sound of a machine running. Most popular example I can think of is "haha money printer go brrr".

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Gorkreply

It can also be a reference to the A-10 close air support fighter, whose main gun is notable for emitting a very loud brrrrrrrt sound.

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It's the sound of the A-10 Warthog's main gun. It became a meme over a couple decades of war. "If brute force isn't working, you're not using enough of it," kind of captures the gleeful power and arrogance.

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The US government printed a lot of money after the 2008 financial crisis. Some people criticised this, saying it would devalue the US Dollar. But the government went ahead with the plan, resulting in a meme where critics bring up a lot of arguments and Obama (?) says 'haha money printer go brr'.

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lemmy.world

Are millennials the new boomers now? Or is this meme about older generations making fun of millennials? I can't follow anymore.

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Dontcha know? Millennials are any young kids they don't understand. Who is "they"? Idk, probably boomers, since boomers are any old out of touch people they don't understand.

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I first assumed it was made by a millennial but that may be because I am one myself. If we do end up being the next mocked generation I will at least get a little amusement out of genx getting the shaft again.

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Isoprenoidreply
programming.dev

"On God". I think it's short for "I swear on God.", similar to "I swear on my mum's life.". It's an emphasis that you are telling the truth.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

I always thought it was just a misspelling of OMG. LOL

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lemm.ee

Do any self respecting millenials say those things?

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solonerreply
lemmy.world

I say "that's fire". But I also say "that's sex", which I don't hear from anyone else. Idk why I just feel like when something is really awesome I like to liken it to sex.

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WndyLadyreply
lemm.ee

Me and my ex husband use "teh sex" (sic) to mean something is beautiful and designed exceptionally well.

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Can't help but picture the other one responding with "siiic" when "the sex" comment is made. 😜

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lemmy.ca

Not to sound like a boommer but I really dislike "finna" like how much do you need to shorten a term like finally gonna

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d00eryreply
lemmy.world

😲 I thought it was slang for "fixing"!

As in "Fixing to do x, y, z" which in my mind meant "I am preparing to do x, y, z"

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Kiosadereply
lemmy.ca

Who the hell says “fixing to” over “going to” though? Seems like a small minority group trying to sound more important than they are, idk.

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lemmus.org

It shows up in US Southeastern slang quite a bit. Usually it's a bit stronger than 'going to,' ex. "I'm fixing to give him a piece of my mind." 'Fixings' is also slang for side dishes here.

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flickerreply
kbin.social

As a Southern gal myself, I got whiplash from the implication that people sayin "fixin" are trying to sound important.

I promise, among those of us who say that kinda thing, it's seen as a mark of ignorance and bein low class in general. The idea that a hillbilly accent can seem "important" is banana sandwiches to me.

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I wouldn't say it's trying to sound important as much as it is trying to sound serious / no bullshit tone: "I'm fixin' to whop yo ass", or as a response to your boss bitching at you to do something: "yeah yeah I'm fixin' to"

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It's dialectic -- there's lot's of them in the US, but this one afk belongs to Black American English, and is shortened from "fixin' to." Personally, I think it's cool to see so many variations of English. The language is definitely not static; it is changing all the time!

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"finna" has been around since the 90s, I just listened to a tupac song where they were saying that

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Short form of “fixin to” (pronounced “fixin tuh”)

Usually implies “I’m” fixing to. Often said without much emphasis, as it’s just introducing the important part of the phrase. I think it’s actually a pretty neat way to keep the emphasis where it needs to be.

“Finna get outta here” uses 3/4 of the phrase to convey the important action of “leaving”

vs. “I’m fixing to get out of here” uses 1/2 of the phrase on useless info that “I” am the one doing the leaving and that it hasn’t happened yet but is about to.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

Finally gonna is already a slang shortening of "I am finally going to...". Or even better, "I will finally...".

These terms used to bother me too, until I just full-on embraced them. Now I use them both ironically, and unironically, just never at work. They're really good for text messaging because of their brevity. They combine multiple words into a single short word.

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Kowowowreply
lemmy.ca

That's what I mean gonna is already shortened

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

Use them ironically with someone close to you. They're quite contagious. They will rapidly grow on you until you find yourself using them unironically too. Just don't use them in situations where professionalism is expected, or clarity is important.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

For funsies. Or because it will help you appreciate the words instead of resenting them. That's why I did it. It's just a suggestion though. You know what works for you.

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Kowowowreply
lemmy.ca

Ah so instead of disliking something I'm just going to double think my way into liking it

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