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Sounds like its not settled science and we should be able to discuss the spectrum of studies and current science around the topic without fear a man-child will take this as their moment to protect all of the cat world from the evil vegans.

Its absurd. Current science does not say that a cat cannot be healthy or healthier on a vegan diet, which is the only reason vegans are considering it in the first place.

If you all haven't figured it out yet, animal wellbeing is the whole point, noone was advocating for hurting a cat.

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Why is it when someone says "many reasons" it usually means "I can't think of a specific reason, but I'm sure there are bunches of them".

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Why dont we try a more recent one?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9860667/

Summary: In this review, we conducted a formal assessment of the evidence in the form of a systematic review. We found that there has been limited scientific study on the impact of vegan diets on cat and dog health. In addition, the studies that have been conducted tended to employ small sample sizes, with study designs which are considered less reliable in evidence-based practice. Whilst there have been several survey studies with larger sample sizes, these types of studies can be subject to selection bias based on the disposition of the respondents towards alternative diets, or since answers may relate to subjective concepts such as body condition. However, there is little evidence of adverse effects arising in dogs and cats on vegan diets. In addition, some of the evidence on adverse health impacts is contradicted in other studies. Additionally, there is some evidence of benefits, particularly arising from guardians’ perceptions of the diets. Given the lack of large population-based studies, a cautious approach is recommended. If guardians wish to implement a vegan diet, it is recommended that commercial foods are used.

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They are expecting linux to be honest. If a change is made there likely will be open documentation and discussion about it.i

I really dont think the OP is making a point about buggy software, they even repaired their windows boot after fixing the linux one, despite not needing the windows one.

We dont want software that is deceptive and antagonistic, and tries to steal whatever it can by calling it free.

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That doesnt work in the long term unless you kill everyone that knows about it. Its a weak plan at best.

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There is no one rule to fit all vegans, every vegan has to evaluate their own situations. You are right that some vegans are against all pet ownership. There is another group that believes if you rescue an animal from being euthanized or slaughtered and improve their standard of living and length of life, then that is ethical.

A huge part of being vegan is repetitive self-reflection, always searching for moral inconsistencies and working to fix them.

This is what leads vegans to consider a vegan diet for their pet, as if it was at least as healthy as non-vegan food, then less animals will be hurt due to the vegans choices.

Contrary to popular belief there are plenty of studies and case reports advocating for both sides of the argument of vegan cat food. Even by the admins new rules, we would be able to argue for vegan cat food as long as we only referenced studies.

Since its not settled either way, and multiple pet health and food organizations have stated their interest in researching the viability of vegan/vegetarian diets for dogs/cats, I think its fair to say it should be open for discussion.