It's not about Zuckerberg, it's about the userbase. With something that grew to 30 million users literally overnight, it's impossible to determine what it will be like, and how it will mesh with the existing fediverse content/users.

With something this scale, it only makes sense to secure and observe - pre-emptively block, watch the content, maybe even poll the users on what should be done. There is nothing to be lost this way, it's only a cautious approach towards a potential later link.

What could be lost is the Threads community overwhelms the lemmy community before there is a chance to react (it is 1000x bigger, after all). It makes sense to be cautious, here.

This isn't inconveniencing anyone, any user can make an account on Threads as well and use both right now.

Not sure elon could afford the cloud bills if mrbeast actually did that

I think in terms of link aggregation, there is going to be a fair amount of duplication necessary to get a critical mass of links/content here, that people can interact with. After all, 1% post, 9% comment, 90% lurk.

I'm not suggesting we automate it, but in order to kickstart some communities I'm certainly going to be copying links from some good subs on reddit (if they're open) over here. After all they're just links to other articles/media/etc, they're not exclusive to reddit.

It would be good if everyone who comes over here and subscribes to some communities sees that there are posts going on there. It only takes a couple or a few active people to make a buzz.

Cut and paste blurb from a marketing website from a manufacturer. That you cut and pasted from your top level comment which currently is at -30 due to it's lack of actual sources or anything of value.

This is not helpful to anyone and you may be out of your depth if you think it is.

I am not taking a position on feeding cats vegan food. I am just pointing out you are arguing so weakly you're actually doing your position a disservice.

This is not the case in places outside the US.

So far the only "research" shared on this thread has been a marketing blurb from a manufacturer who makes this stuff.

Not sure the people arguing for this are able to actually conduct research, let alone post about it in an intelligent way.

Honestly, after literally over 30 years on the internet, I can safely say that this idea of bringing everyone together into one space, that will make both the space and the people better, does not work. Even back in the 90s it affected the signal to noise ratio badly. Now there are significant sets of bad actors, shitposting/meta and general noisy ignorance and hate that can easily, easily drown out any decent signal. It's like a permanent Eternal September.

Think of this like the subject of tolerance - typically criticised that as a philosophy, in that it would thus tolerate the very things that would undermine and destroy it. Rather, it is not a philosophy, but a social contract - if you don't use tolerance yourself, others are not bound to be tolerant of you. Of course, I'm not talking about being tolerant/intolerant here, but using the quality of engagement and participation in a community, as a barometer for whether that user should be engaged in that community.

Some barriers to entry are self-selection for appropriate users, and therefore a good thing - whether through obscurity, level of engagement, education or whatever. Without these, everything gets overrun and crushed. We haven't yet found a good self-moderating system for online communities that provides everyone with a positive and fulfilling experience.

Threads can be Threads. The fediverse can be the fediverse. No-one is forced to choose just one, and trying to force them together is going to crush the fediverse. Lemmy has about 20,000 active users. Threads got 30 million signups in 24 hours.

Pretty sure it's going to be some kind of "tipping" system, where it can be traded for real money.

Cue massive invasion by bot farms, this always happens when there is money to be made from posting/generating something. It's going to go downhill so fast.

Given the relative scales, it's best to put protection in place, then wait and see.

If Threads is a positive place, we open up and nothing is lost.

If Threads is a(nother) cesspit of hate and bots, then we have protected ourselves from it.

Look on communities for stable diffusion or flux. The latest stuff is eerily good.

Weird intersectional porn.

I did with my S10+, so you definitely could more recently.

Having said that I'm finding the crud much reduced on my S23, like they don't try to push bixby down your throat every 10 seconds.

To all the men saying they're comfortable enough in jeans / chinos / whatever... you should TRY wearing a dress in a hot summer. There is a little bit of adjusting to get used to it, but after that damn they feel amazing. Women are so lucky to wear these whenever they want to.

You can of course decide you're comfortable enough in whatever, but an informed decision is always the better thing.

As you said, "if it is problematic for a day or two". It could be enormously problematic.

You fail to understand the benefit, and I don't need to convince you, it's still correct :)

Up to 70 million as of a day ago https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-07/meta-s-threads-has-70-million-signups-surprising-zuckerberg

I'm not concerned how many of these are real users - all the shills, the bots, are even worse than real users as they will just be spewing their propaganda around as much as possible.

Adding ONE million users overnight to the fediverse would be disruptive enough, 10x the biggest day from the influx from reddit. We're looking at orders of magnitude more than that.

The mainstream ARE the crazies now, though. The outliers, and only some of the outliers, are sensible, smart people.

Yeah, that's an affair.

Possibly an affair constructed to lead toward a killing.

It is very easy to argue that network convergence is NOT a good thing. That's the whole point of the "embrace, extended, destroy" point you responded to.

Scon to rhyme with gone is how posh people say it - the Queen said it that way herself!