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House of the Dragon - S02E07 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I Liked / Random Observations

  • Oscar Tully is about 14, and the funny thing is, that’s the age Robb and Jon were in AGoT. So we just saw that accurate book-lore ages could have worked (in this case, at least).
  • I honestly thought Daemon and Oscar had planned to "win" the Riverlords by dealing Daemon a "blow to his ego" (calling him Prince). I started getting nervous (with Daemon and Simon Strong) as Oscar "went off-script."
  • Someone get cartwheels for Oscar Tully and Hugh to carry their massive cojones.
  • Jace's classicist tirade was great writing, in my opinion. It hits his weak spots and mixes with genuine points and his own self-loathing (bastardy).
  • Can't deny it: That last shot was fucking cool.
  • Piper, Darry, and Mooton sigils sighted!
  • Silverwing: "I CAN FIX HIM..."
  • Vermithor got a TREAT YO-SELF DAY: A catered meal and a new rider.
  • Ulf accidentally claiming his dragon while running for his life is perfect for (our lovable) Oaf.
  • Was that joyride on Silverwing more than just a joyride? It made it look like this was all a ploy to get Aemond to see Team Black Mk II.
  • I have thoughts about Hugh's maternity "reveal":
    • Hugh Hammer's mother is (now being hinted to be) Saera Targaryen. In the spirit of R+L=J, S=HH.
    • I need to revisit F&B - so is S=HH only canon for HOTD? Or is this also hinted at in the books?
    • Perhaps Vermithor sensed part of The Conciliator's "unbreakable" will in Hugh? Jaehaerys could be incredibly stubborn (as in the case of Hugh's mom, Saera), so Vermithor recognized that quality in Hugh.
    • If S=HH, shouldn't he know Valyrian? I thought he was going to yell "STOP" in Valyrian to save that woman, and that was going to be the thing that got Vermithor on his side.
    • Finally, it is ironic (and poetic) that (probably) Saera's bastard ended up claiming Jaehaerys's dragon. That's such a big middle finger, and I'm all for it.
  • I kept waiting for Alicent's bath scene to go horribly wrong as the before-the-finale event.
  • This is very GRRM-esque: Aemond's management style has people afraid to bring him information, and thus he misses out on crucial intelligence until it's too late. That's the sort of detail that the books would showcase to show the pitfalls of villainy.
    • This certainly would not have been done by D&D in Game of Thrones.
  • I saw a possible stand-in for Nettles, and Rhaena is on a Sheepstealer-stealer mission... it kinda looks like the HOTD writer's room is trying to have their cake and eat it too.
  • Interesting development with the dragonkeepers. Could they be descended from a branch of their order who came with Aenar/Daenys? I perceived a "hint" of Valyrian exceptionalism in there.
  • Rhaenyra's obsession with the prophecy getting to fanatical levels is a nice parallel with Rhaegar's and other Targs.
  • I kept recognizing Rickard Thorne's actor and could not pinpoint from where. It's Garp from Live Action One Piece.
  • Addam and Allyn’s mother being the parent with dragonlord heritage is a great development, in my opinion.
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House of the Dragon - S02E04 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I liked

  • We got Rook's Rest.
  • Even more young Rhaenyra! ~ Hi Milly!!!
  • Daemon is getting a crash course into Spooky/Mystic Westeros.
  • They spent all this time setting up Cole as a stone cold warrior.... Only to have him shellshocked at what a Dragon vs Dragon war really entails. "What have I unleashed"
  • Alys Rivers for best new character of the season.
  • I love how disorienting the mystic scenes at Harrenhal are.
  • We have Muppets Tullys!
  • Clever bit of foreshadowing (for the end of the episode) with Alicent dropping the 🐲 figure

Weird Things / Random Thoughts

  • Doesn't appear they've added anything new this week to the opening credits. Still ends with the hanging of the ratcatchers.
  • War isn't romanticized... we're getting the futility of war. I've read before that GRRM writes conflict from an anti-war point of view. Could not be clearer now.
  • Was Aemond really going to double-dip into Kin-slaying ?
  • Do we prefer HOTD's version of why Cole gains the Kingmaker moniker ? I think the book's version makes more sense; he is a much bigger player in F&B.
  • Looks like we're getting no differences in post Rook's Rest Aegon from F&B.
  • Well done HBO... I can't believe Criston Cole is likeable in this episode.
  • Alicent’s actions in being a horrible mother again are devastating.

::: spoiler spoiler

  • in F&B, was Rook Rest's also a play from Cole/Aemond to drag one of the Black's dragon out and "level the field"? :::
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House of the Dragon - S2E08 Post Episode Discussion

(For the last time in 2024) Things I liked / Random Observations

  • This was a bizarre finale.
    • Game of Thrones used this clever formula of having a great/impactful/explosive penultimate episode and then the finale episode as a palette cleanser and next season setup. This felt more like the latter without the former, and it hurt it.
    • I wouldn't call it a letdown, but I can see how the rumors about this being changed from a 10 episode season hurt.
    • Season 3 has the potential to be the best ASOIAF television event - this is a great setup for it.
    • On a more darker take - I can totally criticize this as a 70 minute trailer for season 3
    • I feel like the story was just split between S2 and S3... so did we just get A-Feast-For-Crows/A-Dance-With-Dragons'ed ?
  • I didn't expect Otto to be imprisoned.
    • I think there's something wrong about Otto being imprisoned - specially with what happens to Otto in F&B.
  • This episode had GoT S8 teleporting going on:
    • Rhaenyra: Fly to Harrenhal and back.
    • Alicent: From the Kingswood to King's Landing and then Dragonstone.
  • Alys is now intimately tied to the (future) lore of the series... lets count the easter eggs in that vision
    • Brinden Rivers (could this be an cameo from the actor playing him in D&E?)
    • The Others/Whitewalkers (just the whitewalkers or the GoT Night's King?)
    • A possible vision of the extinction of the dragons?
    • I'm shocked we got a Daenerys cameo.
    • Kinda related... what the hell was that thing in the godswood ?!?!?!?
      • I re-watched with subtitles on: antlered human 😱
  • A dragon with striking cobalt blue coloring leading a Hightower host. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Prince Daeron Targaryen & Tessarion!
  • I am pretty sure that the ending montage had all the leitmofifs of the great houses. Somehow it didn't stick with me?
  • The Rhaenyra/Alicent meeting felt like the Sept scene didn't occur ? Is it just me, or did it felt like they were meeting for the first time in the season ?
    • I'm sorry, but having Alicent being OK with "a son for a son" as a setup for the fall of King's Landing is fine? did Prince Jaehaerys didn't count?

Going back to the antlered human in the godswood... I would have preferred an antlered being as a vision from a certain event in ASOIAF:

In a vast river stood a monstrous figure, antlers crowning its massive, muscled form. Shadows deepened as it loomed over a horse-sized black dragon, whose obsidian scales glistened in the dying light. The antlered being roared, eyes aflame with defiance, but the dragon matched it in relentlessness. With a bone-shaking bellow, the giant struck, its immense strength driving into the dragon’s chest. Blood mingled with the river’s waters as the dragon’s life ebbed away, sinking into the depths

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House of the Dragon - S02E02 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I liked

  • New intro still rules. I may have to re-watch it, afaict it didn't change from a week ago.
  • Laughin' out loud at Daemon smirking in his own corner while the Black Council was trying to figure out Blood & Cheese.
  • The scene between Daemon and Rhaenyra was incredible.
  • Seasmoke Sighting!
  • Daeron Mentioned!
  • The brother's duel

Weird Things / Random Thoughts

  • The cut at Rhaenyra with Viserys/Aegon was odd... I thought that was a flashback of Aegon with Jaehaerys/Jaehaera.
  • The Seasmoke scene... for a second there I thought that was John Macmillan (Laenor's actor)
  • Tom Glynn-Carney is the early MVP and IMHO most improved actor of this season. I really hope they update all imagery of HotD to feature him vs Rhaenyra for S3 and beyond.
  • Phia Saban (Helaena) is a masterclass at saying so much without words (or as few of them as possible).
  • Shoutout to the twins, once the Cargyll duel started - I was on the edge of my seat - and unable to tell them apart.
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House of the Dragon - S02E01 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I liked

  • The new intro - IMHO it is much better than 3D Valyria model, but not as good as OG Planetos' map.
  • Seeing the north, Winterfell and the Wall again
  • Cregan Stark was better than I expected.
  • Meeting new characters, a lot of time spent with this Alyn fella in the docks with Corlyn 😉
  • Rhaenyra and Jacaerys mourning scene was the standout scene for me.
  • Looks like they're using humor to humanize Aegon II.
  • Seeing everyone over at r/asoiaf loose their mind over Blood and Cheese ROFL

Things that puzzled me.

  • Torren knelled at the wall ?
  • Cole x Alicent - IMHO it came out of nowhere.
  • The pacing of Blood & Cheese and the fact that the final minutes of the episode was split into 3 scenes: Blood & Cheese, Helaena's random walking and finally her entering Alicent's chamber.

Random Thoughts

  • So... is Maelor chillin' with Daeron (The Daring) over at Oldtown ?
  • Change the intro as much as you like, every season if you will. As long as OG GoT theme song plays, it will never be skipped.
  • I love that they are still leaving us with the idea that, just like F&B, some events are still not completely understood/shown. We never see Daemon give the explicit order to target - same as we never see Daemon explicitly say "Heir for a Day" back in S1.
  • I really think that Rhaenyra will be furious at Daemon - not only because he single-handedly plunged everyone further into a MAD scenario, but Rhaenyra's side (probably) just lost the moral high ground.
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House of the Dragon - S02E03 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I liked

  • Intro updated! Jaehaerys and Rat-catchers shown. Luke's death no longer shown 😔
  • Braken v Blackwood!
  • Rhaenys keep speaking truths.
  • "It's a big chair, made of swords" - Daemon cracks me up.
  • Ulf is growing on me.
  • I love how we were shown a gruesome after-battle in the Riverlands, and everyone is basically saying "That was a cheeky skirmish between the Brackens and Blackwoods"
  • Loved seeing "little" Moondancer.
  • It seems we're walking towards evil stepmother and Maegor with Teats after all/

Weird Things / Random Thoughts

  • That was Bloody Ben, right ?
  • Hull is everyone's favorite shit-talking uncle.
  • That was Alys Rivers over a Harrenhal, right ?
  • Did.... they make Aegon's posse from the previous episodes the new KG ?
  • It's been a while since I read F&B, but I don't recall Daemon getting prophetic/dragon dreams.
  • Wait... is the show implying that the curse of Harrenhall could be tied to the weirwoods ?
  • The premise of the secret Sept meeting is ridiculous, but the scene itself was great.
  • I am not buying "Seasmoke is acting out because it's bored" - I think this might be a sign that something happened to Laenor.
  • I appreciate that the "misunderstanding" angle in HotD is being sidelined. While misunderstandings did play a role in the events leading up to this point, the conversation at the Sept makes it clear that Alicent knows Viserys didn't truly want Aegon to be king. At this stage, Alicent's actions are more about ignorance, greed, ambition, and other emotions that have entangled her and the rest of the characters deeply..

::: spoiler spoiler Daemon Sleepwalking ... was it induced by time-traveling Bran ? Bloodraven ?


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House of the Dragon - S02E05 Post-Episode Discussion!

Things I liked

  • Matt Smith certainly looks like The Warrior himself (God/Aspect of the Seven). If HOTD becomes an antology series (post-dance of the dragons) I would not be mad if he played another Daemon...
  • Speaking of Daemon, how ducking funny is his reaction to the Brackens saying, "go ahead - burn us". Mad respect for him to actually realize that THAT is the kind of soldiers he needs.
  • Alys Rivers remains one of the breakout characters of this season.
  • Trippy/Trippin'/Mystical Daemon >>>>> "Regular" Daemon
  • Baela is a boss. Loved her conversation with grandpa Velaryon. Indeed, Rhaenys chose to go out like a dragonrider.
  • 🤩 🤩 🤩 More Book-accurate Eyrie and (Frey) Crossing 🤩 🤩 🤩

Random Thoughts

  • Parading Meleys' head around is definitely a bad idea. It's diminishing the mysticism that the dragons possess. This is also undoubtedly setting the stage for the <event from F&B>.
  • That's a level of incest I was not prepared to see, Daemon.
  • So far with Daemon: Brother issues, niece issues and are we adding Mommy issues ? Next Episode are we getting Baelon cameo ?
  • Is the Valyrian armor "HOTD-Canon" for Aegon surviving Rook's Rest ?
  • I'm not quite sure who Rhaenyra's handmaiden was seeing at the end.
  • "What time is it" "The WOLF". Loved how that line could have a meta context, in addition of the actual in-universe meaning.
  • I loved the proposal and extent of the Dragonseed plan for the Blacks. To me, it sounds more out-of-left-field and grandiose than the F&B version.
  • Was this the first usage of "Aemond One-Eye" ?
  • Good job, Otto. All that work to keep Daemon off the throne... only to end up with Daemon on the throne - just with the D moved to the end and a cool eye-patch.

::: spoiler spoiler I wish I had thought of this one first: After the Bracken Fiasco and all the other blunders, our rogue prince is earning the nickname Daemon Backfyre'd.
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