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Student protesters dancing at Tiananmen Square before the massacre, Beijing, China, 1989

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I think you are correct that there are parts of the protests that are difficult to verify.

Some parts are easy to verify. There are videos and photos. People were killed brutally in the crackdown.

But the reporting and sources from that time (and now) can be a bit lacking. Information was spotty, and of course anything official can't be taken at face value.

We went through some of this in a Chinese Government class I took. This about 10-15 years ago at a U.S. university. We were looking specifically at how many people died. The Chinese government said a couple hundred. Some western media said over 10,000. Hospital records were like 500. The true answer is difficult to know. We sort of have to interpret the claims based on other information that we can verify (photos, different accounts of the events) and make a best guess to what the true range might have been.

Like anything that's been turned into online propaganda these days, a lot of extreme claims are thrown around to support an unrealistic interpretation of facts. For example, western media claiming over 10,000 deaths turns into "western media was lying to make China look bad" turns into "it didn't happen".

If I have time later I'll try to revisit this thread and point you to some of the better sources I found.

TL;DR: good faith skepticism of specifics can help us learn. However, tankie/wumao skepticism is not really grounded in fact

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What you said is all true. And most of the tankies I've come across seem to hold their beliefs mostly due to learning about and needing to confront the hypocrisy that you've outlined.

But in my opinion, they come to some strange conclusions. For example, it seems to me that many hold Russia and especially China up as some kind of shining beacon of hope, and miss that they are just as bad as the US, if not worse, just in different ways.

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Rhode Island DMV Is Trying To Ban Kei Trucks Again

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The things is they aren't even that small. I visited my friend in Japan on a ski trip and he owns one of these trucks. It fit the two of us in the front seats extremely comfortably, and we put my ski bag and all my gear in the bed with tons of room to spare. It was way more comfortable than traveling with the same gear in a sedan would have been. It feels like we only have a problem with it in America because our roads and our vehicles are so goddamn gigantic.

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What if I told you...

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I started reading that series recently. I was aware that Elon is a fan and named multiple SpaceX modules after Culture ships. Absolutely blew my mind and made me realize how dumb he is, since The Culture seems like the opposite of everything he stands for. Plus some very pro trans messages IMHO.