C'mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won't be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, "he's doing a good job" as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

C'mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

Whew the tankies and astroturfers are out in force in these comments. I think we got the gamut going here:

1. "I don't vote for genocide"
2. "A vote for 3rd party isn't a vote for Trump"
3. "If we don't vote 3rd party nothing will change"
4. "Jill Stein isn't a Russian asset"
5. "Who cares if Trump wins; they're both bad / nothing worse will happen l both sides"
6. "I literally don't understand how Trump can win if I vote 3rd party because I don't understand the difference between voting for and against a candidate"
7. "Liberals / Democrats / Harris voters are the real fascists"

Solid work astroturfers! Glad to see you're still trotting out these arguments despite plenty of Lemmy users discrediting each and every one. Really shows grit and dedication.

Also, calling it now that at least one of them replies with something about how they're true / haven't been discredited.

Wait, the Green Party only had 300k members at it's peak? That's 0.001% of the American population. Why are all the tankies in here talking about how voting for Stein will make a difference? That's not even enough to consider her a contender in most states, much less for the whole country.

Edit: should be 0.1%. My bad and thanks for the correction!

Absolutely no disagreement there. I don't condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I'm not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

"Do your own research"

Classic.

Who controls the House? That's a better barometer of change but having a supportive president is paramount. Either have control of the house and overwhelming control of the Senate, or enough control of both that a friendly President signs the bill into law.

Why hasn't Biden done it already? Mike Johnson.

This is such a backward comment I don't know where to start. Tortured logic, the fact that voting 3rd party doesn't send the specific message you're looking to send, or perhaps that it's all Harris' fault that she lost while ignoring everything about outside election interference including Stein's ties to Russia and conservatives all in one post. Bonus points for projecting that a large death of her base cares solely about Gaza and would be willing to suffer fascism instead.

Can't wait until these astroturfing accounts are retired after the election.

Sure, feel free. It's your vote. Hope you have the same energy to wag your finger at genocide when Republicans kick it into overdrive. Hope your disapproval is strong enough to get you off your couch to do something about it.

Yeah, super ignorant take that purported lefties on Lemmy are playing spoiler under the guise of condemning genocide.

The post was for astroturfing fucks on Lemmy. Way to miss the point.

Fantastic ass! And for your safety please put cover plates on your outlets 🙃

Is there a single post in your history where you don't spew absolut bullshit?

Every post of yours is unfounded garbage about how Democrats are complicit or working with the GOP to do some nefarious thing.

Here's an unfounded claim for you: you're full of shit and a foreign agent trying to sway votes for fascism.

When I lived in Japan (around 15 years ago, so etiquette might have changed since then) it was common to take the fish off of the rice and dip it in soy sauce, then put it back on the rice bed in instances where it was just placed atop the rice. Likewise, it was perfectly fine to mix wasabi into your soy sauce.

I've done things that way since without any overt disdain, so I think these are generally good guidelines, but you can probably get away with doing some things your own way.

The electoral system will be fixed if Trump wins. He will just dissolve it and end the election process. Voila! Reform!

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The one valid reason not to vote Dem/Repub this cycle has been to not support genocide, which ultimately supports genocide except the voter can dissociate their vote from the outcome. Other than that, I haven't seen any other valid arguments to vote 3rd party, particularly when looking at what those candidates would do if they won. Holding the presidency with all of Congress against you means you can't get anything done, so it's a waste of 4 years.

The argument of bad faith you've made sounds awfully like the beginning of a slippery slope argument.

Don't worry about EleventhHour. They live to argue with anyone over stupid things. They're trolling just to get a rise out of you.

Yeah let's downplay EVERYTHING ELSE she's campaigned on and redefine democratic excitement to be focused solely on Palestine, and yeah you're right.

A little too obvious trolling. Gotta time it down a bit if you're gonna sell the con.

I mean, if it's shameful to not empathize with someone over the slight of their face being partially covered in a movie poster, then I'll accept that. Your disdain of people means nothing to me.

Nope, you're right. I did it in my head and forgot to multiply by 100. Good catch!