Spyke
lemmy.world

To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

Hey fucko, you're a part of the media

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lemmy.world

The ol' Fox news switcheroo.

They brag about being the most watched news on television and also tell their viewers to not trust mainstream media.

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Yeah, and it works wonderfully. Why wouldn't they roll with it?

We libs think we score some kinda "gotcha!" by pointing to the hypocrisy. It's not working for us.

They got a formula that works. We do not. Isn't it about time to abandon the high road and engage in lying, cheating and stealing? Hell, they already think we're doing it.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

Not only that, with being one of the most popular podcasts ever you could even call it mainstream.

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Yeah. His show is the most advertised podcast of all time. You're not getting 200 million for an indie show

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Apparently, the misleading part of the media they are complaining about.

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lemmy.world

Exactly the person you'd want on your show for nuanced political discussion. Thank you once again, Joe Rogan.

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True. A few years ago I started watching old JRE videos and enjoyed them, but when I started watching the videos as they came out, I found the show sucked because Rogan wasn't just platforming people anymore, he was actively pushing his own beliefs because he'd become convinced he was an expert on everything.

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Hey fucko, you’re part of the media

Bo Nickal said the second quote referring to the media. Not Rogan.

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lemmy.world

What's fun is the moment he realized it was Trump. He went from Biden should be removed because mentally unfit, to well Trump just misspoke

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Kalkalinereply
leminal.space

I'm going to just trust you that he said it because I can't listen to that dumb fuck ramble all day.

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To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

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startrek.website

Prime example of a pot... cough cough cough hack hack cough haaaack cough cough cough... pot calling... haack haaack.. black. Huuaaah. It's just allergies.

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literature.cafe

Not directly related beyond steaming and podcasting apparently rotting people's brains, but I just watched a stream where a guy tried to cough up a lung and then said "it's not allergies, chat, it's just hay fever"

Like, damn bro. You're about to get clowned on by thirteen year olds with more medical knowledge than you.

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In case I'm not the only one who didn't know what hay fever is:

Hay fever is the common name for allergic rhinitis.

Hay fever is caused by the nose and/or eyes coming into contact with environmental allergens, such as pollens (grasses, weeds or trees), dust mite, moulds and animal dander.

Fuckin lmao

(E: forgot the link)

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lemmy.world

There's no mistake. It's his intent to blast Biden, not to speak the truth. He 100% achieved his goal.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

If you read the article, it says he was corrected and acknowledged the mistake.

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lemmy.world

He did not acknowledge the logical conclusion that everything he said about Biden being unfit should then in theory be applied to Trump. No, Trump just "fucked up".

If read the article critically, you would not accept such a lazy correction.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

I actually watched the podcast for the context of this article. You're right, he doesn't apply the same scrutiny towards Trump. Yet, he does acknowledge it and they showed the clip of Trump's idiotic speech. They also laugh at him, but then move on. Anyone that actually watches the podcast, the ones you're afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted. The only side that has a real opinion swaying agenda is the media side. A lot of people just read headlines and move on. Those people would never even be aware of the correction.

Also, I don't care. I know Joe Rogan has different political views than I do and that doesn't stop me from seeing him as a person that is entitled to his own views. I can still respect him for his work in comedy, mma and for his podcast. I haven't watched a full one in a while, but he has some good ones with interesting people. He also has a way of interviewing people that seems mich more real than most other formats. He just shoots the shit with people and it doesn't feel like some scripted intentional message they're trying to put out.

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the ones you're afraid will be manipulated into fascism or whatever, would have seen that recanted.

They would have seen a recantion, yes, but nothing about either saying why he just ranted about Biden's mental fitness with appropriate evidence OR spend some significant time retracting each adjective that he applied to Biden on false information.

He is fucking broadcasting. Stop treating him like a buddy sitting on your couch. He either knows what he is doing, or he has no respect for the power of having a large audience that can internalize messages on his word.

I believe your comment shows a lack of awareness of how people get piped to fascist viewpoints. To be clear, I do not think Rogen is intentionally leading people there, but being an idiot is not a great shield.

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How could he not acknowledge it? They played the clip... He was proven incorrect on the air. The issue is that he was using the statement as a reason Biden should be removed, but for Trump it was just a mistake.

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That's also why Joe Rogans stupid conspiracy theories and political bias can be dangerous, sometimes. Stupid people will believe every word like he knows what he's talking about.

I don't hate him or think he's evil, either, fwiw. He's just a dumb out of touch rich guy with too many gullible fans.

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I don't know about evil, but he has a platform with a huge amount of influence which he uses to push a conservative viewpoint. That, at the very least, makes him immoral.

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YeetPicsreply
mander.xyz

I don't understand why people act like he's the fucking devil. Like, you can think he's a dumbass, but some people seem to want to act like he's legitimately evil.

Here, don't run and hide from your ignorance, let it shine.

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"Let me make a statement, be fucking drowned in counter evidence and just delete my comment and fuck off."

-you

Stay mad.

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lemmy.world

You are mistaken in thinking that changes anything.

Fascists only need to blast their message. Any incorrectness or recanting is 100% irrelevant and inconsequential.

When the nazis roll over the government and burn it all down, I swear, there'll be this 10% subset of people befuddled that this could be happening after all of the recanting. It doesn't matter. Don't let them convince you it matters.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

Like blasting headlines about how shitty Joe Rogan is? I've seen a ton of them and pretty much all of them are overblown, taken out of context or misleading. Media knows you guys love to hate him, that's why they put out these pieces in the first place.

Also, I fail to see how someone wanting to put down Biden is bad. People are entitled to their opinions and views, even if they aren't what you agree with. I seriously doubt Joe Rogan is plotting to make America fascist. Biden is not without his faults as well. His main selling point is that he isn't Trump.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

If you don't see the hypocrisy in your own words, then your conclusion doesn't mean much to me.

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Yeah totally, one supports your opinion and the other does not.

Just curious, but why do you think they are different? It's real easy to just say "no you're wrong".

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Oderusreply
lemmy.world

You're such a tool and you don't even know it.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

Read the article, it says it right there? Am I tool because I'm just pointing out something that's in the article? Thanks for your amazing contribution to this discussion.

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Oderusreply
lemmy.world

A tool and too dumb to see it. Great combo. /s

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Maybe Rogan needs a new, younger, fresher host on that show.

Rogan should step down as we see his mental facilities are in decline.

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Maybe a rival podcast should call for rallies, then storm the JRE studios and overthrow him. I be the Behind the Bastards gang could sort this out.

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It's not just his faculties, but the entire facilities that keep him running!

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lemmy.ca

I seen a bit of this interview yesterday. The article doesn't cover it all. As soon as these 2 knuckleheads started spewing airports and it was Biden that said this I was confused as this was something Trump said a few years back. Didn't they know? They ride the media for skewing things and they weren't even aware of how Trump was called out in the same media for this some time back.

Below this fellow breaks down the double standard in more detail than the article does. It covers how Rogan and his Guest said no one should listen to Biden and how he is unfit for office due to this airport thing. Then when the producer points out to Rogan that Biden is referring to what Trump previously said, it wasn't a big deal all of a sudden to Rogan and the guest.

Trump gets a "whoopsie doodle" pass and Trump is still the better choice in his mind I'm sure. Not saying Biden is a gem of a rose but with how hard the right are trying to pin anything on Biden and failing, Trump is still a rotten to the core choice for endless reasons.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1LANk2O4oh/?igsh=MWYwMDF5YXk0ZjJnNw==

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chatokunreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

At least a few months back Alex Jones was bragging about finally converting Rogan to his side. He'd been telling his audience for years he's been working on getting Rogan to take his stance.

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Dipshits of a feather I guess. Except Rohan I’d been a sucking on the right wing money teat for almost a decade. The yoga anti mask pro gun movement has been a big part of that since covid in late 2020.

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The fact that anyone gives Rogan the time of day even though he not only platforms Alex Jones, but considers him a friend, is just disgusting.

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Its always unfalsifiable. They're right no matter their position, $100 million > objective reality any day /s

Thats why estoppel in the legal system and the legal system in general are Trump's kryptonite, even if it looks like hes constantly usurping it. Make him pin down himself and he just can't do it so he loses cuz he can't stop himself from hedging or being sure what he says is going to be universally adored by those he "represents"

Also, like those Targets that let you steal until its a felony and both of you hit the big time 🎬

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lemmy.world

Rogan is a truly horrible human being. I absolutely cannot stand that asshole. He is the walking and talking Dunning-Krueger Effect. He is a washed up comedian who moved on to making people eat disgusting stuff on a shitty reality show to thinking he is some sort of brilliant host.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, Art Bell was a kook, but he was also a legitimately nice guy. Rogan is an arrogant prick.

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Just look into the circumstances

I loved C2C, mostly in reruns sadly.

And Art was awesome as a host and did a ton of good stuff in his life.

But damn if how the wives died is not suspicious as fuck.

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lemmy.world

I will give him credit for one thing- when he got lung cancer, he went on a huge apology tour for his promoting smoking, which is more than pretty much any conservative would do today.

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Oh yeah, it's a very small amount of credit, but I will give it where it's due. He was otherwise a colossal piece of shit.

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madcaesarreply
lemmy.world

I feel like somone correct me if I'm wrong, that early on he was decent. He listened and had good long interviews.

But, somewhere along the way he started to like the smell of his own farts and things when down the crazy hole.

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I share that opinion. The shat began a bit before the spotify deal, but after it was downhill via log ride off shit mountain.

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You probably grew out of it and realized he was shit all along.

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I listened to him for a while, then found him complaining more and more about the left. That was mostly fine since he complained about conservatives as well and he supported Bernie Sanders, but I got fed up with him because he wouldn't have liberals on the show to discuss the topics he clearly knew nothing about yet loved to bring up constantly.

He's a guy who touts himself on being open, curious, and willing to learn, but what I found was the exact opposite. Any time there was a guest on his show who disagreed with something and the conversation turned into more of a debate, he'd say that having that person on was a mistake. Ultimately I stopped listening when he proved himself to be a blowhard hypocrite.

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I miss the days when he was doing stand up and straight up telling people "I'm an idiot. Please don't take me seriously." It definitely is better than now, where he is still an idiot but people do take him seriously.

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glimsereply
lemmy.world

I miss when he was doing standup, too, because he sucked at it so nobody was posting his clips

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cmbabulreply
lemmy.world

He should’ve just stuck to fear factor and UFC

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I liked him in News Radio, but I would also have said the same about Andy Dick. Come to think of it, both of them played idiot savant characters so maybe it was just the genius casting in that show.

He was also perfectly cast in Fear Factor. It was like something he was born to do.

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Nah fuck that. That was always his trick, he doesn't actually think he's an idiot, it's just his get out of jail card.

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Squizzyreply
lemmy.world

His stand up was atrocious, I hate even listen to him talk about comedy and comedians because it'd be like me talking about nuclear physics and how our brains work.

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You don't like his stand-up? You don't like to hear about almond nipples and Kim Kardashian while he's hunched over a stool?

In all seriousness, I was so disappointed in his stand up when I was a fan. For a guy that talks to so many people about so many different topics, his stand up was so boring.

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Wrenchreply
lemmy.world

The years of ped abuse and blows to the head from sparring at work. Never was a smart guy, but that sure didn't help.

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lemmy.world

That idiot is the reason I dropped Spotify. I don't want my money funding such a dipshit.

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lemmy.ml

I also hate how he's appropriated the acronym "JRE" from programming to a right wing conspiracy show. Say what you want about Java but it doesn't deserve this.

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Asafumreply
feddit.nl

I can't believe I used to listen to him lol he got me with the scientist interviews... Like not the Egyptian aliens types, but people like Neil Degrass Tyson.

Then I listened enough to realize he's a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow, kinda like Bill Maher. Yeah yeah Bill you're tolerant of "the gays" and you like weed, but he's center right if anything, again pretending he's on the left for his ratings.

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Saprophytereply
lemmy.world

I think if you're a right winger who smokes weed, that makes you a libertarian, not a liberal.

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lemmy.world

he’s a jackass right winger pretending that liking weed puts him on the left somehow

I think you miss interpreted this line.

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Saprophytereply
lemmy.world

You know there's a big difference between a liberal and libertarian, right?

Libertarian - an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens.

Liberal - a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

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lemmy.world

Ok, I'll spell it out for you. Joe Rogan is the one claiming to be a liberal or at the very least, a centrist. Not me and not the person you were originally replying to. Everyone here knows Joe Rogan is a libertarian.

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Oh, thank you so much. I don't follow the whole Joe Rogan thing so I wasn't familiar with him claiming to be a liberal. I thought he stuck to the conservative/libertarian thing and wasn't trying to convince people he was something else. Thanks! TIL

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hmm its almost like joe rogan is an aboslute idiot and the real life embodiment of a thumb-thumb from spykids

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lemmy.world

I keep getting videos of Rogan pushed on YouTube, while I constantly mark them as "not interested" of report them as "fake news". He's like a horrible decease you never can get rid of.

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lemmy.world

I made a typo because I'm dyslectic and I got corrected. The sentence was "he is like a disease-" and your response is "wishful thinking"? So, you wish he was like a disease? I kinda feel like he already is, so your wish came through. But to what you meant, it's really horrible to have a disease, wishing that onto the people you oppose makes you as bad as they are. I just wish he would see the harm he does, he would see the world as it really is instead of his vision which is through very polarized glasses, and I wish he would stop spreading his BS.

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I think they meant that your typo: "decease" is the wishful thinking. As in they wish he was deceased.

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Your mistake is interacting with them at all.

The algorithms know that people who dislike something enough to click a button will be primed to potentially do something like hate-watch or open the video to leave a comment, etc so by interacting you are telling it you were emotionally affected.

The best way to avoid getting suggested videos like this is to completely ignore them. Do not open it, do not click any buttons on it or hover over it long enough for the preview to start.

Eventually you'll only see suggestions like that if you are a regular watcher of videos on the opposite end of the spectrum.

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I've been telling YouTube not to recommend these types of videos and it seems to work well with minimal effort on my part. When I look at the homepage, it's all cooking and math videos, and it's been that way for years now.

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programming.dev

Ironically, you marking them as not interested and reporting them probably counts as engagement to show those videos more often.

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lemmy.world

No, YouTube just has an (among other examples) "young white western male" problem.

The algorithm works hard to jam you into a pigeon hole no matter how abhorrent you find the pigeon shit contained therein.

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hglmanreply
lemmy.ml

It's an AI problem. Because the algorithm only looks at things you have done, which after some time include you looking at its recommendations, it cannot see past the bucket it has you in.

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It's more about your demographic. Doesn't matter if you've never watched anything even remotely related to JRE, if it's popular around your local area it'll be recommended to you.

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It shouldn't, I don't see them anymore by choosing the don't recommend this channel to me anymore. And I do bij so watch a ton of bjj videos, so anytime some channel pops up that uses his clips it's recommended to me. Still his own channel and that main clipping channel are things I haven't seen in a long time.

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lemmy.world

Here's a direct excerpt from the article OP linked:

Shortly after the exchange during the show, “The Joe Rogan Experience” producer Jamie Vernon cut in to correct Rogan. Vernon played a clip that Rogan had cited, which was in fact a video of Biden mocking “stable genius” Trump for the comments about airports in the Revolutionary War. Then Vernon ran a video clip of Trump’s “Salute to America” remarks from July 4, 2019, in which the former president praised Americans’ military efforts in the war against Great Britain.

In the speech, Trump said in part, “Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.” (Meanwhile, Fort McHenry was the site of a key American victory over the British navy in the War of 1812, not the Revolutionary War.)

To that, Rogan responded, “Oh, so [Trump] fucked up.” Nickal commented, “That’s the thing about media these days. You gotta look into it.”

I dont watch the podcast, but please: let's exhibit some media literacy while we criticize others for their supposed lack of media literacy.

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lobutreply
lemmy.ca

Yeah it's the "media". You have the #1 podcast in the world spreading misinformation. Unfunny fuck nugget prick Rogan.

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It's only misinformation if it's consumed as a soundbite devoid of context. And since you're commenting on my comment highlighting the context, I am legitimately confused as to your issue. If near real-time fact-checking on the very same podcast episode isn't enough for you: then you may just have an issue with conversational podcasts in general. Stick to printed news.

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Not happening here, once people get a hate boner for someone or something... they're full on blind to the nuance.

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lemmy.world

God I hate Joe Rogan's show so much. He doesn't fact check anything. Just one easily influenced airhead with a megaphone and a huge audience.

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Jazstareply
lemmy.world

I don't like him either but it was fact-checked on the show in this case

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madcaesarreply
lemmy.world

Did he apologize, and use it as a learning experience to not just blindly believe bullshit and be extra vigilant when you are spreading such bullshit to millions?

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Nope. Instead, he acted like it wasn't a big deal that Trump said it even though it apparently was a big deal when Biden said it.

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Fact checking ideally happens before you start attributing quotes to people, forming an opinion about it, and making calls to take action.

Fact checking after the falsehood has already been stated is no longer fact checking, it's simply correcting the record.

There's the famous quote: "A lie can travel halfway across the globe before the truth can even get it's pants on.". Very relevant here. He made a big deal about Biden being unfit for office, but when the record was corrected there was no mention of Trump's fitness (not to mention it being old news in the first place). The damage was done already.

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lemmy.world

He doesn't fact check himself but his crew fact checks him almost immediately.

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lemmy.world

And he still doesn't learn and still make mistakes and should not have a platform.

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MTG, Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert and other right wingers really don't care about being fact checked. Once their initial talking points have been spewed they move on to the other talking points because their base doesn't care about or know that the facts have been checked.

Like the clip they played of Biden, Joe and the guest believed it instantly. So I guess Joe is one of their base.

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lemmy.world

This perfectly showcases the multi tier belief system from Joe and his goons…

  • If Biden says it, he is mentally done
  • If the orange turd says it, the bro slipped
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kbin.social

This guy right here is the reason some 1,500 jobs were lost from Spotify.

Talk about overpaid piece of shit.

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Not the original commenter here but this one doesn't make a direct connection, but certainly says Spotify blew money poorly that they are trying to make up for, although it mainly mentions cuts in podcasts. This one make s bit more of a correlation saying "The cancellations coincide with jobs cuts at Spotify Monday that eliminated 17% of the streaming company’s staff, or around 1,500 people. Spotify has undertaken several rounds of job cuts since October 2022. " https://fortune.com/2023/12/04/spotify-podcasts-cancelled-heavyweight-stolen/ However you're not going to find much more than that because it would require a degree of openness and honest that a shitty company isn't going to give. So it's hard to say a direct connection doesn't exist when all the data on that is kept secret by the people who profit from it.

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lemmy.world

It is crazy how large of an audience he has. When he clearly worships Trump, his reaction to finding out it was Trump's words said enough. Idol worship is an ugly thing.

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Like many other public figures, his rhetoric matches the need for confirmation bias among his listeners. It's a business based on telling your contingency what they want to hear. Cletus and Merle are your football fans for team MAGA. They'll be on your side whether you win or lose.

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I don’t think he worships Trump. Unless of course you can provide evidence that he’s even in favor of Trump.

You won’t though.

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lemmy.ca

Full moron is more than partial moron.

A partial moron might believe whatever he's told but then have a "wait a minute, something's not right here" moment. A full moron doesn't have that moment and spreads the problem to others.

Another example would be a "leopards are my face" moment. A partial moron would be surprised that approaching a leopard caused them bodily harm but learn not to do it again. A full moron would sue the leopard but do it again with their child.

Another example: a partial moron gets directions, sees the distance, thinks a half tank of gas will get them there and back despite prior trips showing the opposite. But they have a Jerry can in the trunk. A full moron wouldn't have the Jerry can and buys a bigger vehicle with a larger engine because it comes with a bigger gas tank and then blames the liberals when they still run out of gas.

Partial = recoverable, full = hopeless

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BetterDevreply
programming.dev

JustZ is only saying Joe Rogan is a moron. The term "full moron" isn't a commonly used phrase on its own, but the word "full" followed by an adjective or noun can be used to enhance the descriptive word, such the quote "never go full retard" from the comedy movie "Tropic Thunder". The context is that an actor played a person with a mental disability in a movie, but they tried too hard, and the performance was uncomfortable for some people.

I feel compelled to note that I don't condone using hateful or disparaging language when describing the differently abled.

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nomousreply
lemmy.world

They knew exactly what it meant but were trying to use it as some sort of gotcha.

You gave a really good explanation though, I'd forgotten it was from Tropic Thunder. We were actually just talking about that movie a few days ago, I should watch it again.

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lemmy.world

The problem is, none of his listeners will care, he'll go back to blasting Biden tomorrow and supporting Trump. And his listeners eat it up...

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Look about how serious he was talking about Biden with his anecdotes and shit and how dismissive he was of Trump. He's a prick.

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lemmy.world

Toxic meathead does not belong anywhere near a microphone. Yet here we are.

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feddit.dk

I all for the Rogan-bashing, but had he not since admitted he's seen enough evidence to realize that the moon landing was real?

However, knowing full well that he, although he considers himself a "sceptic" (in the modern sense of the word, where no actual scepticism is involved), was taken in by a conspiracy theory made up of whole cloth, it doesn't make him the least bit less likely to fooled by other conspiracy theories – probably because they, mistakenly, makes him feel smart.

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lemmy.world

I watched a couple of episodes years ago. One with Wim Hof, and one with a guy talking about Terrence Mckenna. They were interesting enough, but I never got hooked. It sounds like the show has gone downhill from there.

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Carmakazireply
lemmy.world

He really fell into the alt-right "manosphere" crowd after Covid restrictions started rolling out I think. Those really put a damper on his two business and personal interests outside of his podcast: stand up comedy, and MMA. It was so much he moved his studio from LA to somewhere in Texas where they obviously didn't give a shit about Covid.

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He jumped the shark well before, but with COVID and the aftermath he straight up used the sharks for waterskis.

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Well what do you know? Those are also the only episodes I ever went through. Maybe also one about Bitcoin... was Andreas Antonopoulos ever a guest? But don't answer that, it's not important, what's important is that this toxic meathead detoured into q-anon territory, then went off like an excrement bomb on the internet, not unlike infowars a few years earlier, and I have no interest in either, may they rot far away from my mind.

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lemmy.world

To be fair Rogan is a raging dipshit that was not quite as funny as Andy Dick. How he achieved an actual following is mind boggling.

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hperrinreply
lemmy.ml

There are a lot of raging dipshits to make an audience out of.

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Got_Bentreply
lemmy.world

Add Jon lovitz to the mix, and News Radio really spawned some characters. Yikes.

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lemmy.world

This strikes me as a particularly ahistoric take. I'd like to make two points in that regard.

News Radio was the biggest gig yet for both Joe Rogan and Andy Dick, who played main characters on the show from the start. Jon Lovitz was already well known from his time on Saturday Night Live -- arguably a higher-profile position than the one he took on News Radio.

Jon Lovitz wasn't spawned by News Radio, is my first point. To the contrary: Lovitz was brought onto the show as an established big-name talent after (his friend and fellow SNL alum) Phil Hartman died.

And how did Phil Hartman die? Phil Hartman was shot and killed by his wife, Brynn Omdahl, who struggled with substance abuse. According to Lovitz, Andy Dick was said to have shared cocaine with her at a Christmas party at Hartman's house.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lovitz-speaks-out-on-dustup-with-andy-dick/

"[Andy] was just complaining and really giving me a hard time for no reason. Phil told me that they had a Christmas party and Andy was doing cocaine and he gave it to Phil's wife Brynn, who had been sober for 10 years. So Andy said to me, 'Well, you shouldn't be here,' and I said, 'Well, I wouldn't be here if you hadn't given Brynn coke in the first place.'"

After this on-set exchange, Lovitz and Dick were said to have made up and were able to work professionally together on News Radio. Later, however, when Lovitz was out at a restaurant, Dick came over to his table and invoked his ostensible involvement with Hartman's murder:

"He's standing there with liqueur dripping down his chin and he says, 'I put the Phil Hartman hex on you, you're the next one to die,'" said Lovitz. "And he's smiling, and my blood just went to my head. I wanted to smash him, but if I hit him he would have gone flying into the table behind him. He was really drunk."

My second point is that, while Jon Lovitz maybe be a "character," he's an entirely different class of character than Andy Dick. (Or Joe Rogan, for that matter, just to pretend this whole long reply still has something to do with the actual OP topic.)

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I appreciate the historical tome. I was simply enjoying some Christmas Eve cups of kindness and made a casual remark that I found marginally humorous with no anticipation that there seems to be a News Radio historical society out there.

I do not disagree with anything you said though I'm particularly bewildered with the depths you went with it all.

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I never heard of Lovitz being a dick…hell, never heard anything about him at all after that Critic show he did.

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lemmy.world

Joe Rogans mental decline in the last few years is astonishing.

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lemmy.world

Spotify cancelled one of the top Gimlet podcasts, Heavyweight, this week, they are really bowing out of the podcast industry I believe. I hope Rogan gets cancelled and fucks off into hell.

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lemmy.world

One of the most punchable throats in media makes nonsensical noises. Film at eleven.

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Wrenchreply
lemmy.world

Dude doesn't even have a neck. He literally has one of the least punchable throats.

Edit - he's like a turtle with his head retracted. Just a forehead sticking out of a wide torso

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Oh my god, really? Even if I was in the market for brain supplements, fuck that. I ain't catching no prion disease.

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Does he still have Young Jamie fact-checking and pulling stuff up? Its hilarious that Jamie let him prep his own noose and reinforce/double-down and then let him pull the switch

Edit: i do want to credit Rogan for keeping Young Jamie around, its the only way I ever listen to his podcast. There needs to be an adult (Young Jamie) in the room to facillitate important moments like this and pushback on Joe's more freewheeling side where facts and interpretations are involved ans politically-influential

I do think Rogan retains a nominal openess that I appreciate altho its becoming less and less certain about how truly open he is in terms of hosting people he disagrees with like Bill Maher seems to do in my experience watching.

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mander.xyz

I hate the word blasts in this context. IDK why it bothers me so much

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Possibly because it's an overused, hyperbolic and mostly meaningless word, that really only serves to amplify the rage-bait component of a click-bait headline.

That's why it bothers me, anyway.

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To me such language signals that the author's purpose is not to enlighten or dispell ignorance, but to get the upper hand, be the one who is "right" and the opponent is made "wrong." It's not only a lazy way of thinking, but it prevents anyone from actually learning anything. Instead we just get to be self-righteous for being "smart."

Any time I see an article that attempts to bash, slam, destroy, demolish, etc, etc. I cannot take it seriously because the author has convinced me from the start they are not interested in inspiring honest dialogue about a social issue. They just want to draw you into their own limited, biased way of thinking.

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It’s called “editorialization” and it’s when you use colorful language to add meaning that doesn’t exist in the subject material.

In this case, I’d say it bothers you because there’s no actual definition of “blasts” that’s different from “criticizes” or “comments on”, and it indicates to you that the writer’s intent was to inflame rather than inform.

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Thanks for confirming that I'm still safe getting my political guidance from the same place I keep up to date on all of the revolutionary breakthroughs in advanced water drinking and breathing techniques.

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IMO the article doesn't read as onion-y and you served us an AMP page for some reason. Please don't do that, not only because of Google but because that serves us a mobile page on desktop.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

There's a healthy middle ground that everyone seems to be allergic to. Not wanting to meet someone because they don't hate someone is not healthy. The top thread here has someone making a joke about they wish he'd die. Most of these people haven't even watched his podcast, they just get told to hate him by the media. Article here is a good example of that.

Downvoting people that notice the toxicity and say something as simple as "wow you guys really hate someone" is a good example too.

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Facebonesreply
reddthat.com

Another day, another Rogen stan who tries to convince hoards of people who don't like the guy for the words that come out of his mouth that "um actually you've never listened to the words that come out of his mouth and SoMeThInG SoMeThInG tHe MeDiAaAaAa"

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

I don't care if people like him or not, can you say the same?

What does bother me is how it seems like people love to be absolute trash while looking down on people they think are trash. Wishing people would die because they don't agree with you politically is insane and far far worse than having a opinion about something.

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Facebonesreply
reddthat.com

Wishing people would die because they don't agree with you politically is insane

Wait til you hear about Republicans and their frontrunner candidate. Oh right it's only bad when it's one random in an internet comment section. 😂

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

Why are you changing the subject? I agree, his words are insanity as well. Our whole political system is fucked. Everyone is divided and regards the other side as less than human and it's abhorrent.

It's not one random comment section, it's fucking everywhere brother.

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I'm not changing the subject, you're going to bat for a far right commentator. Cry centrism all you want but we all know where he really falls.

We know where you fall too, with your "BoTh SiDeS" nonsense. Only one side is running a candidate who is parroting the language of Hitler and calling for the elimination of their "vermin" enemies.

One side regards the other as "less than human," then claims it's exactly the same when the other side calls that behavior what it is and expresses that they won't go down without a fight.

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I literally never listen to him and I still feel the reaction is over the top. I really don't think the man is a fascist, crypto or otherwise.

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Anyone that takes medical advice from a podcast and ignores the CDC and WHO probably weren't long for this world anyways. He's an entertainer. That's it.

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siminreply
lemmy.world

not to say hes correct on this but i think there are a lot who are worse than joe rogan that you are able to meet

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siminreply
lemmy.world

but every key you type here fails to address all those worse than him. and one day, they might convince him to join.

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siminreply
lemmy.world

ok its good that you are not trying to make one 'think right, but i find him more tolearable than many. he listens to others better than most, has a sense of humor, etc. i dont see why that plus interviewing rightists making him liable.

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but every key you type here fails to address all those worse than him.

The post is about Joe Rogan specifically. Are you seriously trying to say "you can't criticise someone unless they are the worst person in the world?"

People can do both: point out Joe Rogan's hypocrisy AND dislike people who are worse than him.

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