Spyke
lemmy.world

Fermi Paradox. Are there aliens? Of course. Are they in our current time and local space? Probably not. It's it fun to think about? Yes, that's why science fiction exists.

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lemmy.world

More importantly, are they a lifeforms that we would even recognize as alive? The chances of an alien being humanoid are even slimmer. Then there's whether they develop intelligence, whether they care about space, and whether they survive long enough to get anywhere.

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Globulartreply
lemmy.world

If intelligent life exists anywhere else the biggest chance we have of finding anything would be a self sustaining vehicle sent off into space by them at some point. The chances of us being alive at the same time in close enough proximity to encounter each other is almost zero.

If a vessel could wander space endlessly we have a slightly bigger (but still almost zero) chance of encountering it.

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This was one of the only cool parts of the film Oblivion. Basically if an intelligence can cross that distance to us it would likely be a digital intelligence. That and if you want to fuck humanity without touching them, crack the moon.

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lemmy.world

Counterpoint, why do dolphins and sharks look so alike when they have a completely different phylogenetic tree? They separately developed traits that were very well suited to the medium of water. Convergent evolution means that it isn't entirely unlikely that whatever we may find has similar traits to beings on earth, because we all exist in a universe of solids, liquids, and gasses.

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Gabureply
lemmy.ml

Counter-counterpoint: both species come from the same tree of life, several of their traits taken for granted come from previous species' adaptation, e.g. bilateral symmetry. When you see, say, a molusk with the same bodyplan as a shark, we can talk about it being a common possibility.

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Gabureply
lemmy.ml

While carcinisation does exist as a phenomenon, I believe all examples involve animals of the same order, i.e. it's even less extreme than comparing a shark and a dolphin.

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kbin.social

At this point I just get mad when they say anything about aliens, it is always to take attention away from other important things.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Indeed.

I suspect the same with Area 51. They used aliens to cover up even worse stuff. Like torture techniques, biological weapons and other stuff banned by international accords like the Geneva convention.

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Area 51 was used for testing prototype stealth vehicles like the B-2 Spirit, get your conspiracy shit outta here.

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Honestly the whole thing felt like glimpses of why the DoD can't pass an audit not aliens.

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Zoboomafooreply
lemmy.world

What do you mean, "Taking attention away from important things"?

The hearing got less attention than Biden falling off of his bike did

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techreply
lemmy.world

You do realize the media could run a week straight of news about ocean currents dying and half the population would challenge whether or not we even have or need ocean currents.

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feddit.de

Ocean "currents"? I ain't never seen no goddamn "currents" in the ocean, boy. Have you? They just be sayin' these things to keep us distracted from how their undloadin' trucks full of illegals in are country to steal are jobs and sell drugs and live off of welfare!

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Yeh we ain’t stupid. How would grapes get sundried if they’re in the ocean anyway?

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lemmy.world

Lol as if the half that cares has gotten their politicians to do anything about it when they actually have control.

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Gabureply

Right, great idea - let's all just give up and jump from the top of a cliff headfirst into rocks. No, wait, what I meant is bad idea. Horrible, horrible idea.

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lemmy.world

And my point is that you can shout until your lungs disintegrate and the only thing that really talks is money. Money you ain't giving them and big oil is.

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SuckMyWangreply
lemmy.world

No but I leave a trail of skittles every time I go out to my tool shed

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lemmy.world

If there were aliens, there's zero chance Trump could resist bragging that he knows all about them.

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lemmy.world

There are military secrets not even presidents are made aware of until necessary.

Truman didn't even know the Manhattan project was a thing for a while

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lemmy.ml

Why would the US government be in charge of whether people know about aliens or not?

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Imagine being a government worker right now. You can cause a big commotion whenever you want just by saying out loud that aliens are real. It doesn't even need to be recorded, someone somewhere will report that the government has confirmed aliens are on earth right now.

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kbin.social

There was a hearing in the Senate too? I only saw the one in the US House. Does anyone have a link?!

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I think it was a senate committee but I’m some random on the internet so what I say must be fact

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Last I heard he wanted to share his classified sources, but the DoD threatened to imprison him if he talked about it, even to people who have clearance

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