Spyke
lemmy.world

I might need to rewatch the first movie before seeing this. I watched the movie before I read the book and I feel like it made little sense and they barely explained anything. I can't recall them even mentioning why anybody wants spice in the movie. Which leads me to believe that the movie is really for people who have already read the book and know the details of why anything is happening.

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I definitely remember them trying to explain it at the beginning of the movie, saying it's necessary for space travel. The movie is just so information dense it's easy to miss the details. I read the book years before watching the movie and I feel like I caught the large plot points.

I will definitely watch it again myself before watching the second.

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I didn't think the first Dune movie in this series was that good and the reason why was probably as you explained it. I knew there was this rich universe lore behind the series but as someone who hasn't read the books it didn't really gel that well or make much sense.

I think I was expecting something like LOTR or Star Wars and I don't think we got that.

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You probably expect this comment, but I highly highly recommend reading at least the first book if you haven't already. There is a reason why there are so many movie adaptations...The book is just THAT good. It's cheap and reads quick.

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I read the book recently for the first time and then watched the movie. The entire time I thought this is awesome to see these scenes from the book but I would have absolutely o idea what’s going on if I didn’t just read it

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Yes!! The Dune movies are the only big movies I've been excited about in a loooong time. Between the crappy nostalgia remakes (which never live up to the originals) and the endless superhero franchise churn, the theatre experience has been quite dire for far too long.

I love that Villeneuve is bringing the craft of movie-making back to blockbuster movies, and doubly so that he's done it with the Dune stories. And he's done them justice so far, both the material and with the beauty of the cinematography.

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kbin.social

I’m upvoting this, but I also won’t watch the trailer since I already know I’m going to see this movie.

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Same here. Part one was enough of a trailer for me to decide to see part two. Well that and knowing the story from the books.

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oursreply
lemmy.film

It's been years since I've stopped spoiling movies for myself and I no longer watch trailers. I do like to jump into discussions about the trailers to get the general vibe.

But it's so satisfying to discover the whole look and every beat of the movie for the first time when actually watching the movie. Yeah, I've read the book, and seen Lynch's adaptation and even the TV series but I'd rather wait.

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Yeah it's funny- the trailer "spoils" the plot but only if you already know the whole plot from the books and can pick out the major plot points during the fast-moving trailer. If you don't know the story, you will probably only see some cool action sequences and character shots with some impactful dialog.

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lemmy.world

I loved part 1, it was such a refreshing movie in terms of storytelling, writing, cinematography. Super excited for part 2

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lemmy.world

Part one was the most cliche movie I've seen. Bad guys are bad, good guys are good, kid is the chosen one, parents get killed. Hopefully part 2 will be better.

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Movies can be cliche and still be good and refreshing. A simple story structure often allows for a great narrative and interesting character moments

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Yes that is what it appears to be. The movies are very much for the people that have read the books and know what is going to happen. They had to make a choice and I suspect filling in all the nitty gritty for the average viewer would end up with a 20 part movie, so they decided to make it the readers, not the viewers. If that pays of for not we'll have to wait and see.

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I am a person that read the books and I am so hyped about what are we going to see!!!

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The man seems to have some Broadway musical background.
Shaddam Corrino IV, The Padisha Song And Dance Emperor!

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lemmy.ca

Definitely looking forward to part 2. Part one just looked so beautiful, so picturesque.

They hit on all the plot points and it felt like they didn't leave out any of the details (from what I remember from reading the book).

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kbin.social

I only watched the movie once, but IIRC they missed a fairly substantial subplot about Gurney Halleck strongly believing that Jessica had betrayed the Atreides. Other than that, I was pretty happy with what they did and didn't decide to cut for time.

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There was a few things like that or the dinner I thought they could add in only at the cost of removing some scenes of Xendaya in the desert, but I have a feeling there was a requirement to have a certain amount of her for press materials lol.

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nsh
aussie.zone

This looks glorious. Can't wait to watch this at an odd time at the cinemas so it's empty

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They slipped in a quick glimpse of the Paul and Gurney reunion in this trailer. One of my favorite scenes from the book.

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lemmy.world

Oh man, I am so hyped about this movie I'm having trouble choosing what to have for breakfast. It is time to reread the book and rewatch the first movie. Again.

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lemm.ee

I love this story, loved the books, the movie was visually fantastic, but it took me three viewings to get through it. I don't know if my attention could handle the dense nature of it in a film format. Does anyone else think it would have been more digestible as an 6-8 part series? Still great to see this level of sci-fi in film.

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When younger I was so confused by the Lynch version, but the visuals of gluttony, purity, capitalism, and overall vastness in the scenery fascinated me.

I do hope someday we figure out interdimensional travel so we can find a universe where the Jodorowsky film was made. Still we have some art by H.R. Giger, that looks incredible, from the effort.

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lemmy.world

It sounds like dune messiah will be part 3. Probably a perfect fit for these movies.

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amtwonreply
lemmy.world

There was an interview where he said he wanted to adapt Messiah as a third film

https://nerdist.com/article/dune-movie-trilogy-messiah-denis-villeneuve/

Villeneuve revealed that he has envisioned not just a two-part adaptation of Dune, but its sequel novel Dune Messiah as well. In response to question by Screen Rant‘s Ash Crossan, Villeneuve said, “The thing I envision, the adaptation of two books, Dune and Dune Messiah. We decided to split the first novel in two, so now we are at three movies. Those movies are very long to make. For my mental sanity, I decided to just dream about three movies.”

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kbin.social

I haven't read that one, but isn't that one of the super weird ones?

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Yea, it's pretty weird but also perfectly inline. Granted it jumps forward like 3400 years or something, and Leto Atreides is a freaking worm..

I know some people don't like the books that Frank Herbert's son wrote, but I like all the lore that was in the Legends of Dune series and explanations why the Atreides and Harkonens are rivals.

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Messiah is the sequel novel to Dune so Messiah movie would probably not be part 3... more like Dune 2 Part 1.

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I'm so pumped for this, the emperors ship / fight looks exactly how I imagined.

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Blade9732reply
kbin.social

I don't think I have been this excited for a movie in years. I loved part one, and now think I might go re read the books again.

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I loved Part 1 so much that as soon as I returned from the cinema I torrented it, so I could hear the dialogue

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awesome, really looking forward to that, actually hoping there will be a double feature with part 1 + 2 in cinemas because I missed part 1 on the big screen due to the pandemic

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"Who rules here? I rule here! I rule on every square inch of Arrakis! This is my ducal fief whether the Emperor says yea or nay! "

Looks like a really good delivery of this line.

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This trailer felt so long and covered so much. This movie is going to be amazing. So pumped.

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kbin.social

I want Gaspar Noe to direct God Emperor of Dune, but it's like a mashup of his movie Climax and Caligula, and focuses mainly on the Worm squishing Tleilaxu while his Fish Guard orgasm continuously during protracted, graphic, and nauseau inducing orgy scenes.

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Sounds like a blast! /s
For the uninitiated, it'll make the David Lynch version make sense in comparison.

EDIT: Get Peter Greenaway instead.

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By now it's clear that Dune II unpacks such a punchy plot with unexpected twists interpreted by such fine actors. Add to that the great soundtrack and stunning visuals, and we're in for a memorable sequel. I can smell popcorn already.

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Much as I enjoyed the first one, I'm afraid to watch the second because of the scene with the spider-person in. It made me sick to my stomach to watch it and is making me sick even now thinking about it.

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I think I understood the movie without reading the book, but that was aided by acid, so your mileage may vary

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lemmy.world

Can't wait. I've read all the 6 original books and the two written by his son to close the main storyline. This will be epic!

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I loved the movie, but I've had a rough time getting through the books with the scriptures and wording of it

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I mean, how could they NOT focus on the Missionara Protectiva and prophecies, like that's the core thing lol

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I'm sooo freaking excited about this movie, but i felt so bad for my friends i brought along last time to watch the first movie. None of them speak my native language and our cinema only have subtitles in our native language... parts of the movie was just not possible for them to get.

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I can see that. I can't say I despised it, but I was a little disappointed. What didn't you like?

For me, I thought Denis Villeneuve could have added more emotional weight to the story. Overall I liked the movie. If I see it in a DVD bin I'll probably pick it up, but I'm not going out of my way to watch Part 1 again.

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lemmy.world

I did too. Crazy to think so many people find it a great adaptation cause I feel like it misses the point of what made the books so amazing by quite a lot.

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Care to elaborate? As a book reader I thought it was a really faithful adaptation, about as good as it gets. I do miss some of the cut bits, especially the character development of Yeoh and some of the context around CHOAM, but the meat and philosophy of the story is there. Hopefully part 2, which really gets into the good part of the story, keeps up that trend.

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Idk I reread Dune annually and thought it was about as good of an adaptation as one could hope.

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It's been a long time since I read the book, and the second book (never read the rest sadly, maybe someday), but movies made from books are often unable to truly capture what fans love about the story.

Usually I don't like adaptations, but this time I feel they did a decent job despite the differences (which granted I don't really notice considering I only read it once and a while ago), and I enjoy it for being an epic sci-fi movie based on the book even if not totally true to it.

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lemmy.world

Are there more than one adaptation? I know about the David Lynch but haven't been paying attention since then. So I don't know which one is good.

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I'm looking forward to it.

I admit I was a tad disappointed with the 1st Dune movie. It wasn't bad by any means, but I felt Denis Villeneuve didn't quit communicate Paul's plight enough, and, as much as I like Zendaya as an actress, I don't think she was the best choice for Chani.

Then again, I realize Dune is a difficult book to adapt to a movie.

But I've enjoyed other work by Denis Villenueuve so I'm suspecting Part 1 was just a setup for Part 2 and the 2 parts together make a satisfactory story.

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lemmy.ca

im sure im gonna get shit on here but i thought Dune 1 was the single most boring and terrible movie i ever tried to watch. i was waiting for SOMETHING to happen the whole time and literally nothing happens. its slow moving people in gigantic buildings and landscapes doing absolutely nothing! like holy hell i thought i was missing something but Dune was just hours of people doing nothing. sit around and talk here, sit around and talk over here now. look my house is the size of your whole planet haha, now listen to me talk very very slowly for the next 20 minutes about nothing.

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Someologyreply
lemmy.world

Well, everybody has their preferences, but it is a big story with a lot of background, and for people who love the story of Dune, it was rather nice to see it given adequate time. It's a large book, and there is still stuff left out. You're not obligated to like these movies (or the book), but if you don't like complex stories that require an attention span, then they've made some Transformers movies you might enjoy. Better choice if you want all action with no world building or story.

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