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asklemmy·Ask LemmybyKrakakaaa

Circumcised men, how do you feel about your parents having mutilated your penis without your consent?

These things are very controversial when it comes to women, but apparently most think it's ok when it's about men.

Do you blame your parents? Why did they do it? Scared of HIV? Not wanting to explain their son how to clean underneath the foreskin?

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It's technically correct, the best kind of correct.

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lemmy.world

I understand the implications and I think it should be the person’s choice, not the parents but as a person with a penis whose parents had him circumcised, I don’t think about it ever really and it doesn’t affect my day to day life.

In answer to your questions, I’m not sure why they did it.

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Both of my parents worked in health care and in the US, circumcision is treated as preventative treatment for things like UTIs and other complications.

At this point in my life, I’m not planning on having children. Would I circumcise them? Probably not as I think it should be a personal choice.

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lemmy.world

Not happy with their decision but there’s nothing I can do about it.

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As much as I hate to say it, check out r/foreskin_restoration on reddit. They have a ton of good info in the wiki. Tl;dr: the same way people grow skin when they get gauges in their ear or gain weight: tensioning the skin over time

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lemmy.world

Just did a few hours of research on this and Imma start right now. Thanks for making me aware! For a few years now I've wished I were uncut

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Looks like you're looking for a very specific answer that you're not getting.

Doesn't bother me one bit, as far as I'm aware I could have been born like this

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When I asked my parents they said "We did it in case you wanted to marry a Jewish girl." It didn't make any sense at that time either, but since I don't have any problems with it and have never known my penis any other way, I don't really mind.

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rahreply

"We did it in case you wanted to marry a Jewish girl."

Wow

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I have literally never thought about it other than when these types of discussions come up. If I hadn't been circumcised I would probably think about it the exact same amount

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I wish it wasn't done to me. I blame American customs more than my parents. What a barbaric thing we do to our children.

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kbin.social

This is a very personal question, and I know I’m not entitled to an answer, but curiosity has gotten the better of me: why was it required in your case?

This clearly isn’t a pleasant memory, so feel free to ignore me. Either way, thanks!

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kbin.social

Yikes. I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’m glad it hasn’t been a problem since, at least!

Now before you write me off as a basement dwelling Reddit moderator…

I wasn’t expecting to laugh, but this line got me.

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Very unhappy and violated. I don't have a lot of sensitivity left (except in one area they missed) because they took too much foreskin. It makes me last longer but I can't help but wonder what I'm missing.

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TL;DR: Don't care

Was a baby when it was done so don't remember any of it. Been this way my whole life so have nothing to compare it to. Never bothered me, never was a topic of conversation, and nobody ever cared...probably because it is extremely common where I live.

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You've presented quite the leading question but I'll answer for myself.

I was raised Muslim (now I'm atheist) so naturally, I was circumcised. It was done because that's the rite of passage. Am I angry that it was done without my consent? Yes. Could my life have been better with a foreskin? I have no idea. How is my life now? I have many things to complain about, and none are related to my circumcision.

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Do we have to use such charged language? I was circumcised for a genuine medical procedure, nothing to do with hygiene, religion, or trends, so I’m very glad my parents had that done. Not so glad it had to happen in the first place, but very happy with the end result.

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Pretty displeased but if I could change one thing about society it wouldn't be male circumcision.

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In my opinion in 100 years it will be viewed as genital mutilation as it's done to children without consent for basically no reason at all. But by then it will be purely an elective surgery adults get so they feel their dick looks prettier, so whatever.

Pretty far from the biggest problem of our age. Maybe don't stress about it.

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lemmy.today

Pretty good. I like my dick. My wife likes my dick. I never had a complaint about my dick before I met my wife. If I'm missing anything by being circumcised I can't imagine what it might be. I don't really think I'd like my dick to be any more sensitive than it is. It was done to most of us in the States back in the 70s. I have a friend who had to have it done in his 30s and he said it was fucking awful. I'll take what I have.

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I never had a complaint about my dick before I met my wife.

This implies that your wife does complain about your dick 😜

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I don’t really think I’d like my dick to be any more sensitive than it is.

Exactly how I felt in my twenties. Hell, I used to wish I had an off switch for the whole damn thing.

Now in my 50s - a smidge more sensitivity would be OK. An "on" switch would be good too.

😁

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Pretty good. Glad that I don’t have a foreskin. No offence to people who do, but it freaks me out. Any time I watch porn and it features a penis that clearly shows foreskin I get weirded out and have to find another video.

(Don’t know if that’s something uncircumcised people can relate to going the other way around?)

Way back when I lost my virginity, the girl I was dating was like “oh nice, my last boyfriend wasn’t circumcised and he didn’t like to clean himself very well”. Made me feel good in that very nervous moment.

I had this done to me when I was 7 years old, due to some medical issues I’d had in my really young years of life. I didn’t think much of it then, just like being kinda excited about being a hospital patient. I was given a very generic/non-branded action figure as a surprise afterwards, which I named after the surgeon, who had been super nice to me. And I got some time off school.

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Fine with me. No clue why they did it and don't care.

Granted, I'm not exactly someone who cares for having a penis at all so...

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I guess only men can answer but fuck it.

Trans women who want to get rid of their penis get shafted (pun intended) by circumcision as it reduces the amount of material for GRS.

That plus those who want to keep it have to deal with the same impacts as other penis owners. Perhaps even more so, as lack of T and atrophy are not assisted by the loss of the protective layer.

Most people don't really have a string opinion though, since you don't often find someone who experienced a sex life with a penis in both configurations.

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Wow what a loaded question. If I had my preference I would have remained uncut but I don't blame my parents for following social/medical standards. Being cut hasn't been a problem.

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kbin.social

If you're young and it was done, it was for specific reasons (not all of which are valid).

But if you're older, say around 40+, it was done because that's what was done.

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sh.itjust.works

My parents were told by the doctor that having it was hard to clean, (even as a baby) so came with increased risk of infection. I don't blame them. I do think the doctor could have been more clear about how large the risk was, and what the downsides to having it done would be. But I obviously don't have first had experience about the situation, so it could have been different.

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This was basically my situation, and it happened at age 4 so ironically some of my first memories are relating to my own circumcision 🙃. I also remember the doctor, with me laying on the table, trying to pull back my foreskin (again..4..) and making the call that I should be circumcised.

I'm not gonna gripe much about it after the fact. My mother did much, much worse things to me than have me circumcised for me to complain about so it's just one more thing on the pile. I have zero frame of reference to feeling what being uncircumcised is like so I can't really miss what I don't know, but my cock works as well as I want and need it to (fuck even more than I want it to some days at 40yo..) so while I'm not happy it occurred without my consent, there's little I can do with it and it has thankfully never affected my life in any negative way.

My wife and I are both in agreement however that should we ever have kids, we sure aren't doing it outside of actual medical needs.

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I feel much better about it than I would've if I needed to have it done for medical reasons as an adult like my grandfather did.

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reddthat.com

It's amazing that FGM is outlawed in much of the first world (plus America), but not MGM.

All guys want is equality. Yet ne'er a feminist around when men are the unrepresented victims.

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Men shouldn't count on feminists to liberate them. Men must liberate themselves without resorting to misogyny.

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kbin.social

I don't know many, possibly any feminists who are pro-circumcison

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reddthat.com

That's not what I suggested.

I know quite a few who have no support for boys having the same rights that girls enjoy. If they did the law would have been written with males and females considered equal. There's is no downside for girls asking for equality for boys.

Isn't that what feminism is all about? Equality?

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kbin.social

I think you're confused. Feminism IS about equality. Where do women want less rights for men??

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reddthat.com

No. Egalitarianism is about egalitarianism. Feminism is about female domination. The clue is in the name. You're that dumb.

There are no rights that men have that women don't. However

Laws rightly protect against FGM, nothing protects against MGM. The child might have to have his penis removed, mangled to such an extent that it causes significant daily pain and all kinds of suffering, foreskin removal means loss of sensation. All totally legal.

Children don't have the right to a relationship their fathers. 90% of divorces allocate children to the mother. I was a victim of that decision by diagnosed physically and mentally abusive narcissist. Women are the number one cause of child death or abuse. Number two is mum's new bf. Dad's are number four or five; they (ONS here in the UK) stopped publishing the numbers/ranking when certain groups objected to facts.

It is significant that the marital assets and income generally follow the person who obtains control of the children. The allocation isn't about the best person to care for the children, it's about the assets and income.

About a fifth of the children who go through DNA in the child maintenance payments procedures are found to have the incorrect person listed on their birth certificate. The rest of men having their assets, income and liberty at risk don't know. UK Government FoI fact. Having a DNA test to establish paternity in France is not even legal.

"Under child support legislation it is a criminal offence to make a false statement or representation, and to provide false documents or information.

However, according to the CSA, there has not been a single prosecution of a woman for making a false claim. The figures showing the number of false paternity claims have been compiled using freedom of information legislation."

The incidence of criminal convictions in the case of two parent households is the same as those of single parent male households. Single parent female households have much higher conviction rates for their children.

Male suicide is many times that of women but always men are never involved in the TV coverage. It's always some women using the boy's death for their publicity and victimhood. I know exactly what that's like to watch, and know that the women involved are never going to try to help deal with the issues before or after.

Knowingly false allegations by women are standard procedure for a disagreement with boys or men. I'm not talking about mistaken identity or an accident. Everyone of age knows a someone who has had this used on a man as a threat to extract what they want or other leverage. The numbers of male teachers in schools has nose dived.

Here in the UK, legal aid except for domestic violence, cases was curtailed in 2010 (?), the following quarter as published by the government body CAFCASS, the number of restraining order applications increased by something like seven times if I recall. Coincidence? Seven times more men committed acts of domestic violence on a woman immediately after domestic violence was a requirement. We regularly hear on the media that another man has been released from prison after serving lengthy time fully exonerated for the rape crime he was sentenced, others are not so lucky.

As a result, the rape convictions for real female victims keep falling. It is well known that gay men and men in prison do not report rape. Ever.

Domestic violence incidents in lesbian households by far outweigh those in any other household including gay, straight, etc. The woman who set up the world's first domestic violence shelter now actively campaigns for domestic violence shelters for men and children and disowns the feminists who refused to accept that men can be victims and took over her cause for equality. Her name is Erin Pussey. Google her.

There is continuous series of sexual abuse by female teachers of students in loco parentis (literally in place of the parent). Otherwise known as paedophilia. The media cannot use the word rape, even though that's what it is, because the female teacher doesn't have a penis. The relevant statute demands that penetration by the penis is the only definition constituting rape.

The invincibility of women that they feel for their outlandish views/actions has given rise to the concept of the Karen. There doesn't appear to be a sustained male equivalent.

I can go on but you've already stopped reading.

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kbin.social

Ohhh, you're a nutter, sorry, didn't realise. I was talking to you as if you were a person that lived in reality. I'll leave you to your delusions.

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The sources are either the government, agencies of the government, or left leaning newspapers of record.

If you think they're nutters, you need a check up from the neck up.

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Not a problem

Never wished I was uncut, don’t really mind either way. I’m not having kids so I won’t have to make the decision, but I’d likely have them cut too.

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I know why my parents had me cut. It was because my father had been cut, and that's just what was done at the time. It's not a good enough reason for me, and if I had had sons I would not have allowed them to be cut in turn. My children are not my property.

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Wanting to be uncircumcised is like declaring your pleasure is more important than your partner's pleasure. It's saying you want sex to feel so good that you can't last long enough to satisfy your partner. Anyone who bashes the practice of circumcision is misogynistic.

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lemmy.world

I'm delighted that it was handled when I was too young to remember. Who wants to fix it in adulthood? Not me.

So glad I don't look like an anteater now. They did me a solid.

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rahreply
feddit.uk

fix

What do you believe circumcision fixes?

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kbin.social

This is asklemmy. The point is to be able to ask questions. If you think a question is stupid, just move on. Besides, enough other people have replied to suggest that the question was worth asking.

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kbin.social

In America, circumcision is common whether you’re Jewish or not. This isn’t necessarily a religious question. Avoid jumping to conclusions, especially when it involves implying that someone is a bigot.

Antisemitism is heinous, which means it’s also a very serious charge to make. Throwing the word “antisemitism” around based on such weak evidence only dilutes it.

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lemmynsfw.com

I see why he thinks of antisemitism, but I was just thinking of the circumcision without any real reasons, other than 'that's just what we do'.

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Take it easy. I had not made the connection yet, being raised as an atheist European. I knew one guy in high school who was circumcised and he was the weird one in the showers. I was thinking about Americans.

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