Spyke
kbin.social

Yes!

Please yes.

I'm tired of seeing the same story of that chode in six or seven different communities.

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hyorvennreply
jlai.lu

Wait you mean you don't want to hear the next pricing plan for twitter? Aren't you a tech enthusiast???

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lemmy.world

I agree, but only restrict the news if it mentions Musk, not just one of his companies. For example, SpaceX does interesting stuff, and to be honest operates mostly independently of him these days.

Technology is technology, no matter which asshole owns the company.

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lemmy.world

Breaking News: Elon Musk announces new X laundry service!

"It's the laundry service of the future! Only requires a recurring subscription of $49.99! (shipping fees not included) Mail us your laundry!!!"

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grrkreply
lemmy.ml

They'll use spaceX drones instead of mail

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You can get drone service as an add on for only an additional $89.99 a month! Don't be left in the past! Start your X laundry service today! IT'S THE LAUNDRY OF THE FUTURE! PAY ME NOW YOU PEONS!!!

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Yes please. None of those have anything to do with technology. I want to see some PM-esque posts in here.

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lemmy.ca

I think if it's actually related to tech it's fine. For example, I read an article from DHH talking about how Musk's strategy has saved money by moving from Cloud to on-prem and doing it cut massive costs.

I think that'd be okay?

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hperrinreply
lemmy.world

That’s not “musk’s strategy” though. That’s just common knowledge. If you change your own brakes, it’s cheaper than at the dealership. If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

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programming.dev

If you run your own servers, it’s cheaper than in the cloud. The reason people choose the cloud is either they don’t want to, or can’t, run their own server farm.

Generally speaking, if it wasn't cheaper for them to use the cloud, they probably wouldn't. Owning infrastructure comes with costs that amortize better at scale. If infrastructure is not a big cost in serving your customers, then it's probably cheaper to rent.

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hperrinreply
lemmy.world

There are some costs that are cheaper when you go to the cloud because of scale. Things like bandwidth, redundancy, and physical security. But they are massively offset by how expensive renting the hardware is. I can rent a server for $500/month that I could build for $3,000-$4,000. That's 6-8 months before I'm in the red with the cloud. Think about those costs over one server's lifetime (roughly 5 years, depending on your needs). That's $26,000 over 5 years, or $5,200 per year extra, for one server. If your company is using 10 servers (assuming your costs scale linearly at this point), that's $52,000 per year, rather than just running a couple fiber lines into your office. And that's a small company.

So yeah, it's more expensive to go with the cloud, almost always. But yes, the cloud gives you benefits. This is pretty common knowledge in the industry, and musk didn't come up with the idea of bringing services on-site.

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Something to add, since I colocate my own hardware in a datacenter: Just the cost of operating a server is non-trivial too. I pay $120/month for just 2U, 1gbps networking, and power usage (600W peak usage), providing my own hardware. Things get a lot cheaper if you can rent a whole rack space though. It's absolutely been worth it though, because to rent a similar specced server, it could easily be $1k/month.

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programming.dev

That $52000/year isn't enough to pay for even a single full time IT person. So now you're probably either spending dev time on server admin (which is wasteful of dev salary, and it's a subject they aren't experts in, so you're literally paying more for worse results), or outsourcing to an entity that hires the cheapest employees it can.

Oooor, use a cloud provider. And if you're a small company, you can probably get away with cheaper shared hosting.

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Oh I was talking about renting a VPS, not managed services. Managed services are much more expensive.

I just checked Digital Ocean’s pricing, and the server I was thinking of that’s about $500/month is $900/month for managed MySQL. That’s $107,400 extra per year if you want managed services.

And again, this is for a small company that only needs 10 servers. If we’re talking about something more like 5,000 servers, those cloud costs will be absolutely enormous.

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How about Cloud (someone else's computers) vs. Colo/Data Center (someone else's cooling and UPS/Generators Your computers) - the cost of running a data center correctly is huge. This is not even counting the 24/7 availability of help or security on the site.

Of course, if you can get away with a 2 servers in a single rack more power to ya.

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Ah you broke my heart. Clear indication that I'm drifting more into management every day :(

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midwest.social

Some people like the antics of Bozo the Clown. I enjoy the antics of Stammering Elon.

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oursreply
lemmy.world

I love to watch expensive garbage burn.

Watching Twitter burn to the ground along with Musk's reputation is highly entertainment.

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There's already EnoughMuskSpam fully dedicated to musk antics, I feel like this place could benefit from closing off Bozo so the community can develop different posting habits

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I don't realistically expect such ban to happen. I started banning everyone who posts about Musk instead, my feed got a lot cleaner.

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Holy cow, this sounds like a moderation nightmare--glad I don't have to do it! There's no way you're going to get through it without someone complaining about it.

In my mind, this is definitely something that individuals should address with blocks and filters. If those filters don't exist, they should be written.

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lemmy.world

Fine, I'll do it myself.

https://lemmy.world/c/tech_news

It's about time I start subscribing to some RSS feeds since I left reddit anyway. I'll start posting some stuff, everyone else feel free. I'll probably add mods at some point.

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Could you elaborate on this? Is this new community restricting specifically mentions of Musk, or is there a broader difference? In particular, there are a lot of people claiming that Twitter is a tech company and that it belongs in tech news. Is that also the view of this new community or do you consider Twitter a social media company, with only tangential and generally not newsworthy actions related to technology?

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I'm into it. All of the news is bad news for him and I love it. It's like a house burning for a year and I just like checking in on it every few days.

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No, that would be beneficial for him and like-minded people. It creates a bubble around him where only his supporters know what's going on.

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lemmy.world

Some Lemmy apps have filters. I use Memmy for Lemmy and it has filters. That assumes you use your phone and not a browser.

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ZooGurureply
lemmy.world

Well the voyager browser app is great if it works for your instance. It has filter options as well.

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ZooGurureply
lemmy.world

vger.app should get you there! Let me know if it doesn’t.

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ZooGurureply
lemmy.world

Strange. I also use it on my web browser. You can “install it” from the browser.

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We need some form of moderation but I think it’s going to be pretty unpleasant given that the fediverse is very appealing to the doomer mindset. I am also surprised at the amount of people that actually think that social media is technology

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Anyone who is posting an ad for something but not paying the instance any ad-price is stealing advertising. Ads for salient things might be acceptable, like an ad for a text editor in a programming forum, but non-salient ads should be quickly deleted, no one is here to buy into a time-share, pick up on the latest deals from China, or to get the latest snake-oil.

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lemy.lol

I came to Lemy for LESS moderation and MORE free speech. Nimby.

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lemmy.world

Musk-, tesla- X- and SpaceX bashing are all equally obnoxious. I'm so tired of seeing why circlejerking about how twitter sucks and reading all the articles with comments about why Tesla stock is crashing, twitter is dying and people celbrating how it's great that some supposedly misfortune fell of Musk because of his hubris. Reverse fanboyism is as annoying as actual fanboyism for all the same reasons. To me anti musk crowd is now the more annoying one who became the thing they were opposing. So yes please shut up about Musk and ban everything concerning him for all I care.

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Trump and Musk are pieces of shit but that guy has a point. Try getting into an EV or autonomous driving discussion where you bring up a Tesla without hearing ad hominems about you "sucking Elons dick" or having to hear the content of every recent tweet he's made when all you've done is strictly talk about the technology. These people are just as obsessed with the guy as the fanboys are.

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lemmy.world

Wow, this isn't emotionally driven and detached from logic at all.

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sleepy555reply
lemmy.world

Just because the room is full of bad takes doesn't mean I'm not going to speak my mind.

Glad you understand this was never a conversation, but rather an opportunity for you all to circle jerk eachother on how much you hate Elon Musk. Your comments are memes at this point. Wow, you hate Elon Musk?! How surprising.

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JWBananasreply
startrek.website

I could not care less about your or anyone else's opinion of some billionaire. I am not OP. Do not assume to lump me into your rant just because I said a fictional character is better at reading the room than you are.

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Even if he's widely hated, he still tends to push the tech space from time to time. Yet, this, a tech community wants to ignore anything with the word Musk on it just for the sake of having the name Musk.

But nah, it's fine because you can follow a community that is nothing but him. A community with one post, that is based on the idea of posting news about him and trashing it. Makes a lot of sense.

You guys should just call your community "gadgets", you obviously hate logic which is a pretty integral part of technology. But hey, even dumb people like their toys. Seems quite fitting.

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