Spyke

Soon you will be able to brag about "fitting the whole gang in your bussy" !

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20hp

737lb-ft torque

Sweet Jesus Christ.

That's more torque than a lot of modern muscle cars have. I know electric motors can shit out a lot of torque, but holy fuck.

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lemmy.world

Well yeah, it's clearly a size queen. If you can't compete with size, then you need deep, hard thrust.

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WarmSodareply
lemm.ee

That eBussy is demanding it.

Look at it.

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Top speed of around 100kph. Not that high, but it will get to that speed right the fuck now.

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The Chevy Spark EV was something like 140hp but 330ft-lbs of torque. It was quite ridiculous and I know a lot of people who absolutely loved it.

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It's because the way we measure torque on electric motors doesn't compare to the way we measure torque on ICE cars. A "muscle car" will be much, much stronger than these busses even though they claim "700 lb-ft" of torque.

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feddit.de

Lb-Ft

FFS, just adopt the metric system already. And "lb" is not a force unit. Also don't capitalize unit abbreviations unless named after scientists.

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_stranger_reply
lemmy.world

"pound foot" is the most intuitive name for a unit of force imaginable!

How much force? One pound of the foot. Easy!

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lemmy.world

It's a derived unit of torque. Pound is already a measure of force.

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oatscoopreply
midwest.social

Better than "newton-meters" , yeesh. What the hell is a "newton"?

Actually, what the hell is a "meter"?

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spadufreply
slrpnk.net

The mnemonic for remembering a newton is actually one of my favorites. It's the force required to move 1kg by 1m. A kg being roughly the mass of an apple makes Newton a natural and somewhat clever fit for the concept.

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feddit.de

Pounds are a unit of money. lbf (poundforce) is a misnomer, it’s actually the pressure required to stamp the King’s portrait into a £1 coin. Slightly changes with each monarch – or by a lot whenever they switch to cheaper materials because of devaluation. The frequent redefining of poundforce is now a major consequence of Brexit. /s

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Fairly sure there isn't any money with the king's face on yet. So we're still on the Elizabeth standard for now.

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agoserisreply
lemm.ee

It's confusing, since "pound" is used for both force and mass.

1 lbm is roughly 0.45 kg

1 lbf is the force required to accelerate a 1 slug (32.2 lbm) mass 1 ft/s^2.

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I know slugs are just snails without shells, but they don't need to go faster

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Spedwellreply
lemmy.world

I don't know what the imperial system standards committee was up to, but I've never met a slug that was 32.2 lbm

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Gsus4reply
feddit.nl

Mercifully, g=9.8 everywhere on Earth's surface, so we use weight interchangeably with mass, but yes, we should weigh ourselves in Newton: "I need to lose 10kg, so I can reach my ideal weigh of 700N" :P

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uisreply
lemmy.world

Mercifully, g=9.8 everywhere on Earth's

Big nope. It depends not only on height, but also on density of stuff under ground.

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The pedantry in this post is so dense you would need a torch to cut through it

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

I'd say it's more of a "small yes" than a "big nope."

While gravity does vary, it goes from about 9.76 to about 9.83.

All of which does, in fact, round to 9.8

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uisreply
lemmy.world

On ISS it's 8.722, but it's constantly falling.

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Everything experiences different gravity (and “apparent gravity”) in space. We should pass a treaty of using metric only there, if only to avoid losing more spacecraft.

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Gsus4reply
feddit.nl

What's the variation? Does it ever get to 9.9 or 9.7? It's a negligible "nope" for people weighing themselves :D

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We are talking about engieneering use. Though good scales can be callibrated.

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feddit.de

We already have a permanently inhabited base outside Earth (ISS) with effectively zero gravity and there might be one on the Moon or Mars in 100 years. We should pass treaties to only use metric in space – a probe has been lost to unit confusion already.

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I said “effectively zero gravity” for a reason – the term is “zero gravity” but I know it's a misnomer.

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feddit.de

I know, it has always used metric but the SW was by Lockheed Martin. Still, we need to convince potential extraterrestrial civilians.

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We will convince them by force if necessary. They will adopt the Metric or get barred from entering the space bar

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lemmy.ml

It's understandable that you don't understand a measurement system you're not familiar with, but us imperials understand it just fine.

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feddit.de

Sure. How much does water in a 1ft × 2ft × 3ft aquarium weigh?

In metric, an equivalent calculation is 30 cm × 60 cm × 90 cm = 3 × 6 × 9 dm^3 = 162 𝑙 ≡ 162 kg of water, and if you're pedantic, the weight is around 1620 N or closer to 1590 N for 𝑔 = 9.8 m·s^-2^. All calculated in my head.

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oatscoopreply
midwest.social

A cubic foot is 7.48 gallons, close enough to 7.5. 1 gallon of water is 8.33 lbs ≈ 25/3.

6 * 7.5 = 45 gallons

45 * 25/3 = 375 lbs -- easy mental math. Sure, the "accurate" answer is 373.87 lbs, but the aquarium probably isn't filled with distilled water, perfectly dimensionally accurate, or filled to that exact capacity.

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RaivoKullireply
sopuli.xyz

A cubic foot is 7.48 gallons, close enough to 7.5

1 gallon of water is 8.33 lbs ≈ 25/3.

25/3

Oh god this is what we mean

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kurap1kareply
lemmy.world

Oh just wait until you see imperial hex screws. In metric you get them in screwdriver size relating to mm. US hex screws are like 16/64 of an inch or 5/16 of an apple. And of course they don't relate to metric at all and you can't use the same tools.

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feddit.de

Or fucking AWG. Higher number means smaller diameter wire, and Americans are afraid of decimal or negative numbers so large diameters are 00, 000 etc. The formula is batshit insane

so people just use a lookup table.

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Gauge is historically number of passes through gauging machine. With the machine and material in question being different for every single one. We took that and put it to a standard, so it's super messy and makes no sense.

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lemmy.world

It's only arbitrarily easy since water has a density of 1 kg/l in metric, as it was designed to do so. If you happened to know the density of water is 62.2 lb/ft^3 then the equation is roughly 123*60 which is 360 lb. 372 if you can actually paid attention to what common core was trying to teach. If the material was anything other then water the math would be just as difficult to do in imperial or metric.

Metric is still far superior as the harmonized units make density in particular much easier to convert between. About the only thing imperial is better at is thread pitch of screws. I will also maintain that when describing human temperatures for weather Fahrenheit is a superior scale, but that's just more personal preference and experience then any rational basis.

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It's only arbitrarily easy since water has a density of 1 kg/l in metric, as it was designed to do so.

it was designed to do so

That's also what we mean

I will also maintain that when describing human temperatures for weather Fahrenheit is a superior scale

That's one where I'd say it's almost entirely personal preference. Water freezing being at zero is handy because it's nice to know when there's ice/snow outside, but that's also something you could just learn to remember in Fahrenheit too. Doesn't really matter with that system. Kelvin and Celsius being bros is nice but it's extremely rare that I use that so eh.

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I wonder how many people know these numbers. With the level of US education, probably 10%. Not to mention, most quantities will not be exact feet, more like 2'5". Good luck multiplying that, at least 74 cm is easy to type into a calculator.

Anyway, if you ask a European how much a liter of water weighs, 95% will say “a kilo” without much hesitation.

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lemmy.world

As someone who's all about science and all the things that use metric as it's standard, I understand why us Americans argue for imperial measurements.

We know them.

I can general look at something and relatively tell how big it is based on my experience with the imperial system.

I'm not saying metric isn't better but there's also different languages with some of them being able to express certain emotions or features better than others. Yet you don't see people demanding we all adapt a singular language.

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lemm.ee

People who grow up almost anywhere else on earth can also tell how big something is based on their experience with metric. That's not something inherently based on the imperial system. The same way you go "oh that's about 3 feet", we go "oh that's about 2 meters".

And of course, switching systems overnight is insane, people are used to imperial, you're right. But at the very least do what Britain did, and have both systems in parallel at the same time, everywhere. And in time, people would get used to metric too.

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What I've noticed is that for those using other measurements, intuitively knowing about how long a meter is seems like witchcraft. But for use who are used to metric, it's just "about this much 🫲🫱" or "about this much 🚶".

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Rodeoreply
lemmy.ca

We know them.

And you can't learn new things?

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We have to exist in a context that resists it. The weatherman will tell you the temperature in Fahrenheit. The road speed limit is listed in mph. You buy milk and gas in gallons.

If anything, Americans who force themselves to use metric in everyday use are working much harder at it than any European.

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feddit.de

You should start by adopting metric in anything remotely scientific. Like

  • voltage ✔️
  • current ✔️
  • power ❗ - horses are no longer really relevant, not to mention this - at least appliances use watts
  • pressure ❌ - we got lucky that 10⁵ pascals is around 1 atmosphere so use Pa or bar, not mmHg or PSI
    • BTW, PSI is a dumpster fire of an abbreviation, the correct one is lbf/in²
  • force ❌ - the lb/lbf confusion is not worth it when we have newtons
  • energy ❗ - joules and watt-hours are both fine, calories, electronvolts and TNT-tons less so, but don't use BTU which nobody can really comprehend, or gasoline-gallon-equivalents that nobody knows how to translate to anything else
  • gun caliber ✔️
  • engine volume ☑ (it's cm³ or ml, not cc FFS)
    • strange that motorcycle and gun enthusiasts are the few users of metric length & volume measurement in the US - too bad that these two measurements are never really used in calculations or conversion
  • torque ❌ - this post says Lb-Ft which is wrong on so many levels
  • data ✔️ - OK but data rates should be abbreviated MB/s or kb/s, not kbps, Kb/s, kbit/s or Mbit
  • wire diameter ❌❌ - holy shit, AWG is such a mess - larger wire is smaller number and the formula is so insane that people use lookup tables, also you're afraid of decimal or negative numbers so large wires are 00, 000 etc.

Can you imagine having different units across the world for voltage or data? Like a 2¾-lemon battery or a 2 million floppy hard drive. That would be absolutely insane.

There is an awful lot of inconsistency in the imperial system too, like pound being abbreviated lb, P (in PSI) or even £, or miles being mi or M in MPH

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applebuschreply
lemmy.world

You acknowledge what they really mean is ft lbf right? Usually pronounced foot pounds. It's a common unit of torque in the imperial system. I feel like people are just jumping on the bandwagon. This is coming from a diehard Nm preferrer, we need to choose our battles. How bout we die on the hill of bite force being measured with units of pressure? Like really? Fucking pressure? Utterly meaningless as a unit of comparison between bite strength of animals, since all you need to get a bigger number is SHARPER FUCKING TEETH.

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Hadriscusreply
lemm.ee

Recommended units for data have been mibibytes (MiB), gibibytes (GiB), etc. for a few years now

They're more accurate because they use powers of two (actually 1024 instead of 1000)

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feddit.de

"Accurate" is probably not the correct word anymore. It was when technical limitations dictated power-of-two capacities. Commodore 64 came out with 64 kiB = 2^16^ B of memory, and FAT32 cannot handle file sizes ≥4 GiB (2^32^ B). However, RAM/ROM/Flash chips manufacturers no longer make exclusively powers-of-two capacities, instead opting for (decinal) GB to save 7 % of the cost (and other fake capacity shenanigans). I prefer binary too but the two unit systems can coexist, people just need to label them correctly.

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Schmuppesreply
lemmy.world

About torque though: If my memory doesn't betray me, one Newtonmeter is 100 grams hooked to a one meter long lever. Is that really different from one pound hanging off a one foot lever? I might be wrong, since I was born metric and have no clue in general.

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That's an approximate rule of thumb. The definition of a newton is the force required to accelerate 1 kg by 1 m/s². The ocean level gravity of earth just happens to be around 9.82 ≈ 10 m/s², thus a 100g weight feels approx 1N of gravitational force.

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blujanreply
sopuli.xyz

It's 1 Newton at 1 meter.

As simple as 1 pound at 1 feet to be fair, the bad part is that pound is used as a measure of force as well as of mass. It works on the surface of the earth but not anywhere else.

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I wonder what you’ll get when you ask for 0.02 slugs of ham at a butcher's. Probably nothing but a horrified look.

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Yes, but I mean everyone uses it as a measure of mass.

To be fair there exists a mass unit called pound mass, as opposed to pound force.

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Gasoline gallon equivalents should die in a fire. It's an invented statistic that's meant to give you an idea of how much you'll be spending to run an EV compared to an ICE car, but there's so much slop in the numbers, and they can change over time.

Also, can we kill off hp for cars? Your EV's battery will be rated in kwh. Your motor can be rated kw. These numbers work together and is exactly what the metric system is best at.

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sopuli.xyz

Oh, they know exactly what they're doing.

The entire karma train could ride in the eBussy's marketing department.

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And you know that eBussy can fit a lot in its marketing compartment

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You can't just commit war crimes because you're on the Internet

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Synnrreply
sopuli.xyz

And that's just what they'll do

These cheeks were made for clappin.....

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kbin.social

You guys are impossible to please. Fine! We're going with our third option: BangBus.

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I'm gonna sit this one out and let them work out the kinks first. Maybe I'll get the next model, the XXBus, or the one after that, the XXXBus.

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It's almost exactly what the wife and I want for a little ranch vehicle

Was gonna convert an old truck but this would work even better if it comes to the US (or I bother to import one I guess)

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I heard of being horny on main, but this is ridiculous.

Alternative joke workshopping: being horny on mains (electricity)

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reddthat.com

If someone suggests “the eBussy is bussin” as a sales pitch, they should probably be let go immediately.

edit: no, no promotions for that low hanging fruit, whomever came up with eBussy should be tried at the Hague.

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yiffit.net

Something something dragonsfuckingcars content

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lemmy.ca

Looks like one of those Soviet loaf vans

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In Russian eBussy sounds like “ебаться” meaning “to fuck”. So, checks out.

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discuss.tchncs.de

If you don't know what this is about, don't google the Name of the vehicle at work.

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feddit.de

Actually, neither duckduckgo nor google nor bing nor startpage nor searx yields anything besides XBus formerly known as eBussy for me. So, if this name is somehow funny somewhere in the world, google & co are not helpful.

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lemm.ee

Bussy aka Boy Pussy is a way of referring to a literal male asshole when you intend to use it for anal sex.

5

By some people on the internet, it's far from.entered the common vernacular for most English speakers.

5

TIL... Still a good name: Using our new Electric BUS SYstem is as much fun as using a bio-bussy! would be a great slogan...

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So it's a portmanteau? It does give quite a different meaning to the phrase:

"I'm going to drop the kids off at the pool, before giving my eBussy a thorough cleaning and then picking up the guys. My eBussy can comfortably fit 3 guys, so it's perfect for our little adventures. All the guys like to be in the back, but Dave can't control himself back there, so he has to be strapped in in the front instead. But that's OK, because nobody can get the party started like Dave, when he pulls, turns, and twist the little knobs. Sometimes Dave will get it so hot we have to stop for a moment before we can go again. And then when we come to our destination, we have a hot gay orgy"

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kbin.social

What I like the most about what they're doing is the modular body. I hope that concept catches on and is standardized so I can buy a a Mustang body today and a classic VW van body tomorrow.

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I mean, sure, if you want your Mustang to handle like a classic VW van (and vice-versa 😎).

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Yeah, honestly. If someone could make a repairable, customizable EV, I'd be all over it. Mostly because I don't want massive touch screens or touch-based controls. I want knobs damnit.

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joostjakobreply
lemmy.world

Both a camper and a pick-up or a minivan, yep, I could get used to that! Would just need some more storage space. Or a rental service I guess!

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It would really be great to be able to change your vehicle to suit your use. I wonder how difficult changing it is. Need 2 people?

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