THOSE DINOSAURS?! You mean the birds that went extinct in the 17th and 20th centuries?!
Edit: this comment annoyed me so much that I went and did research. Apparently, dinosaur no longer means reptiles that went extinct 66 million years ago. Not only are the feathery, hollow-boned bitches known as avian theropods considered dinosaurs, but everything that evolved from them also apparently gets to be called a dinosaur. Fuck that. It’s like Pluto all over again. Goddamn it.
Edit 2: You know what? Fuck that. Dinosaur means terrible lizard. If it’s not a lizard, it shouldn’t be a dinosaur. And don’t give me that shit about “it has lizard hips.” I have child-bearing hips, and it doesn’t make me a mother. Fuck you. I want to fight a paleontologist.
Edit 3: Today is my birthday, and this ruined it. We’re enemies now.
T-rex is just a wingless, featherless biped, dontcha knoo.
Also, mammals are fish. Happy birthday.
It’s like Pluto all over again.
Wait... What is your take on Pluto? Are you drawing a similarity as a taxonomic exclusivist, i.e. "Birds≠Dinosaurs::Pluto≠Planet" or as a taxonomic traditionalist, i.e. "Classifications are and shall ever be as they were in the 1960s"?
Because the conclusion we should draw about your opinion on the planethood of Pluto depends absolutely upon the taxonomic philosophy you adhere to as the lens through which you make the comparison.
Dinosaurs aren't lizards. Dinosaurs are reptiles. Birds are reptiles. Lizards are reptiles. Squares are rectangles. Rectangles aren't squares. Pluto isnt a planet. Your mom
If it makes you feel better, I hold that the proper term is Archosaur, which covers Dinosaurs, Crocodilians, and Birds. And cladistically, in terms of common ancestors, birds are and have always been reptiles.
Also, Re: the Pluto thing: what you should really be angry about is that the only reason the Moon doesn't qualify as a planet is because the IAU specifically excludes it. By all the rules, the moon would at least qualify as a binary planet with Earth, because the moon's orbit around the sun never actually crosses itself. It describes an orbit basically the same shape as the earth's. If Pluto, Ceres, and Eris aren't planets, then Luna definitely is, or their rules are not consistent.
No, actually, Gila monsters and komodo dragons, as Anguimorphs are, like snakes and lizards, likely to be somewhat closely-related to ancient Mosasaurs, but no other famous mesozoic creatures.
Ah, thanks, I thought I'd read that it was outside, but didn't feel like doing the math to confirm in that second. I'll edit it!
E: Ah, I have figured out what it was: the Sun-Jupiter barycentre is outside the surface of the sun, and that's why the Barycentre is a bad metric. Different argument.
Me in the back corner of the bookshop having got engrossed in a book by some unnamed archaeologist about how they learnt oviraptor wasn’t stealing eggs, but was actually a good parent – where are you going with those margaritas?
It's been a while since I checked out of the Jurassic Park franchise, but I get the impression that they really like to headline the Tyrannosaurs and Raptors killing people, and for a little variety I'd like to see some herbivores as the main killers of one movie. Look at pissed off water buffalo or hippo and say that it wouldn't be metal as fuck to have a triceratops or ankylosaur as the main threat of a movie.
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Ah, Tamarian allegories
And to anyone about to say 'those dinosaurs weren't from the Jurassic' neither were many from the movie. It's just branding.
THOSE DINOSAURS?! You mean the birds that went extinct in the 17th and 20th centuries?!
Edit: this comment annoyed me so much that I went and did research. Apparently, dinosaur no longer means reptiles that went extinct 66 million years ago. Not only are the feathery, hollow-boned bitches known as avian theropods considered dinosaurs, but everything that evolved from them also apparently gets to be called a dinosaur. Fuck that. It’s like Pluto all over again. Goddamn it.
Edit 2: You know what? Fuck that. Dinosaur means terrible lizard. If it’s not a lizard, it shouldn’t be a dinosaur. And don’t give me that shit about “it has lizard hips.” I have child-bearing hips, and it doesn’t make me a mother. Fuck you. I want to fight a paleontologist.
Edit 3: Today is my birthday, and this ruined it. We’re enemies now.
Funny enough... dinosaurs weren't lizards, either. Most had feathers.
Tell me this isn't a fucking dinosaur:
Google’s AI search has informed me that this is a Pokémon named Skarmory.
A wild Cassociraptor appears
T-rex is just a wingless, featherless biped, dontcha knoo.
Also, mammals are fish. Happy birthday.
Wait... What is your take on Pluto? Are you drawing a similarity as a taxonomic exclusivist, i.e. "Birds≠Dinosaurs::Pluto≠Planet" or as a taxonomic traditionalist, i.e. "Classifications are and shall ever be as they were in the 1960s"?
Because the conclusion we should draw about your opinion on the planethood of Pluto depends absolutely upon the taxonomic philosophy you adhere to as the lens through which you make the comparison.
Dinosaurs aren't lizards. Dinosaurs are reptiles. Birds are reptiles. Lizards are reptiles. Squares are rectangles. Rectangles aren't squares. Pluto isnt a planet. Your mom
YOUR MOM!
You don't know if dinasours didn't have feathers!!
Birds are reptiles though.
You’re on the list.
You are neither a donkey nor a star! You wanna know how I know? Because neither of those things can use Lemmy!
Buurrrnnnnn!!!!!!!!
Wow. Ableist. In 2026.
Forgive me lemming for I have sinned and fallen short of the grace of beans
If it makes you feel better, I hold that the proper term is Archosaur, which covers Dinosaurs, Crocodilians, and Birds. And cladistically, in terms of common ancestors, birds are and have always been reptiles.
Also, Re: the Pluto thing: what you should really be angry about is that the only reason the Moon doesn't qualify as a planet is because the IAU specifically excludes it. By all the rules, the moon would at least qualify as a binary planet with Earth, because the moon's orbit around the sun never actually crosses itself. It describes an orbit basically the same shape as the earth's. If Pluto, Ceres, and Eris aren't planets, then Luna definitely is, or their rules are not consistent.
E: removed an innacuracy. See commenter below.
Does that include gila monsters and komodo dragons?
No, actually, Gila monsters and komodo dragons, as Anguimorphs are, like snakes and lizards, likely to be somewhat closely-related to ancient Mosasaurs, but no other famous mesozoic creatures.
Oh, so they're like, people who turn into animals in order to solve mysteries? Far out, man!
The Earth-Moon barycenter is below the surface of Earth, not outside Earth's body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter_(astronomy)
Ah, thanks, I thought I'd read that it was outside, but didn't feel like doing the math to confirm in that second. I'll edit it!
E: Ah, I have figured out what it was: the Sun-Jupiter barycentre is outside the surface of the sun, and that's why the Barycentre is a bad metric. Different argument.
Those motherfuckers.
Happy birthday, you old dinosaur!
Not anymore!
You sure seem dangerous though
I know Kung Pao and Jiu Gibberish. I’m wanted in twelve countrIes for crimes against arthropods. They call me… The Clam.
To be fair, none of the dinos in the movie were real dinosaurs. They were genetically engineered monsters. Michael Crichton said that himself.
They were all a mix of things.
e: you’re right, ‘Jurassic’ was branding.
The only thing that film got right was at the beginning, when the kid tells Dr. Grant that the velociraptor looked like a 2mt turkey.
After looking into it only two dinosaurs from that movie were actually from the Jurassic period . The Brachiosaurus and the Dilophosaurus.
And the second one was horribly wrongly portrayed.
Me in the back corner of the bookshop having got engrossed in a book by some unnamed archaeologist about how they learnt oviraptor wasn’t stealing eggs, but was actually a good parent – where are you going with those margaritas?
Its friday isnt it?
it's always friday somewhere
no i don't think so actually
Partypooper
Me perfectly safe at home because I am too paranoid, and reclusive to ever visit a theme park where large congregations of people gather - ...
It's been a while since I checked out of the Jurassic Park franchise, but I get the impression that they really like to headline the Tyrannosaurs and Raptors killing people, and for a little variety I'd like to see some herbivores as the main killers of one movie. Look at pissed off water buffalo or hippo and say that it wouldn't be metal as fuck to have a triceratops or ankylosaur as the main threat of a movie.