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Drug addict tells Pope he isn’t allowed to weigh in on the harm drugs cause because he doesn’t do drugs

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Pope Leo XIV @Pontifex: In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.

Spectro @Spectromachina: Pope, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you do not understand? You’re not an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no weight in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. how many local models do you run? :::

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“AI influencers” are incredible idiots even amongst idiot influencers. Like said below, using that term as some kind of respected title is beyond ridiculous.

I’m pretty into the local ML space, and I can’t name a single “influencer” that isn’t a shameless scammer or totally unhinged. Or both. Not one that posts anymore, anyway.

Even if they’re talking about some early researchers who Tweet, if you actually listen to them, they’re calling out transformers LLMs as dead ends and have moved to other spaces in ML.

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The Pope is the highest ranked moron on Earth, exalted above all other dopes.

Like, instead of a town fool, he's our planet's fool.

Please note that you are supporting him (and rabbis, imams, pastors) with your taxes, because we all know that the Catholic church is super poor!

(Catholics own 170 million acres, more than any other organization)

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Spectro, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you have a financial stake in? You're an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no impartiality in this debate and you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. How many fascists do you pay fees to every month?

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lemmy.world

The dumbest thing here (and it was a tough competition) was using the term "influencer" to imply expert authority.

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feddit.org

how many local models do you run?

I will ask this every AI shill from now on. We all know they are just OpenAI bootlickers

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I mean, I’m probably one of those people you’d call out, and I’ve never had an OpenAI subscription, never downloaded the app. Not once. I payed a few pennies for A/B tests via API, is all.

I’ve thought Sam Altman was a creep for a long, looong time.

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Completely avoid the fact that politicians also don't know how AI, or any tech, works.

Ignore the idiots that help you, but yell at the 'idiots' that make your feelings hurt.

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lemmy.world

"you're not an AI influencer" got me barfing

"noone elected you" : ok so this dipshit doesn't know the second thing about popes

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lemmy.world

Kinda hate these idiots are pushing me to side with the pope

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I'm sure that popes react well to being told to (adjusts glasses) "shut the fuck up."

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lemmy.world

You can hate on the church for many things, but you can't deny that they've been one of the art world's biggest patrons for thousands of years.

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To be fair, they patronized artists from tithes collected from the population. So it's hard to say how much art didn't happen because there was less free time available.

It's like how Rockefeller got a plaza named after him for his philanthropy after being a monopolist. We see the help they did but what was lost is invisible.

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sh.itjust.works

Well that’s mainly because of all the satan statues they commission being too sexy—leading them to have to pay a new artist to tone it down. Except the new statue comes out even sexier, leading them to commission a new artist to…

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Tyrqreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

No matter how much I abhor the bs that comes with it, I can still find myself in some awe in a grand cathedral. At least I can attribute that to something someone did with their hands, and not a raindrop in a cloud of staggering uncare spewing forth into the mouths of people who aren't interested in tasting the slopfest

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Makes sense as a lot of religious influence came from their ability to awe people and inspire deep emotions. It's why for hundreds of years they had a monopoly on music being performed.

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lemmy.world

Only an "AI influencer" can weigh in on the use of AI? Gee, I'm sure that will lead to nothing but a reasonable, balanced, and nuanced consideration of the issue 🙄

also, lol @ "how many local models do you run?" as if those aren't also trained on millions of stolen images. Do you even lift run local models bro?

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"how many local models do you run?"

This makes me think this guy is just a troll. It's just too on the nose to be real. Combine that with his edgy profile pic and my bullshit alarm is ringing.

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Zarobireply
aussie.zone

If any group should have exclusive opinions about LLM generated images, it should be human artists

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Yeah, the topic here is really art, so if anyone should have the say about it it should be artists. Art is also subjective though so anyone should be able to have their opinion and I agree with the Pope on this one.

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Bro didn't even write his reply using an LLM. Do you even use AI, bro?

!(Writing this comment made me feel a little sick)!<

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Ironically as you stated the do you even ai bro is likely using a model he didn’t build that some company based on stolen material, when the Vatican actually does run several private models they actually trained themselves, based mostly on texts in their extensive private library, formed to assist in translations mostly. Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.

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discuss.tchncs.de

You do know you can train your own models, right?

And those are by definition ran locally.

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Lol what an idiot. Yes the Pope was elected by the enclave (white smoke, you know) and even if I dislike the catholic church, Pope Leo is right here. Fuck Spectro and their disrespect.

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"you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion"

"Yes... I am God's representative on Earth..."

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Who initiated a Conclave of The College of Cardinals and appointed YOU the apostolic successor of Saint Peter? Huh??

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piefed.ca

WTF is a Spectro, and how do we get it to shut the fuck up?

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IIIreply
lemmy.world

...this cake tastes like shit

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"Matters you don't understand" lmao, what in the blatant Dunning Kruger!?

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How many hail Mary’s do you have to do for telling the pope to “shut the fuck up”?

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The Pope, for the record, has a bachelor in mathematics. Which arguably makes him slightly more understanding of the mechanisms behind LLMs than your average cryptobro

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

So cool to see Pope addresses this with such clarity. Now do the child sexual abuse in church next!

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cannedtunareply
lemmy.world

He has. Several times already and as recently as yesterday.

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On Sunday, victims who met with the pope in France said he had marked a major shift by calling the sexual violence 'systemic.' However, on his flight back to Rome, Leo said that he had been referring to organizations within the Church that, 'at times,' have 'as a system, been abusive.'

Walking on eggshells there, he is.

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And many others with the pope. I mean he's right, but you don't have to be with his side for that.

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lemmy.world

I think it's a bad idea to be too close to people as a person of high authority. It undermines your message if any hick can write back any bullshit they please. Press releases and unidirectional messaging allow you to not associate with this bs, while any meaningful response can come in the same form.

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On the flip side, it means that you're unaccountable to the people you serve. If they can't talk to you, and you can't talk with them, then the only source of information you have about the impact of your decisions comes from the horde of eager-to-please yes-men who carry out your will.

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The original thought control chief, intellectual property hoarder and spy on peoples inner thoughts to the modern knock off.

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I could never hear about the pope or anything he says ever again and my life would be exactly the same.

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