Good? There hasn't been a good Star Wars movie in the last 14 years.
I thought Revenge of the Sith was pretty good. I actually liked Attack of the Clones. I'd also forgive anyone for saying Return of the Jedi or even The Empire Strikes Back was the last good Star Wars movie.
Personally, I think Star Wars itself is the only great Star Wars movie. The rest are just sequels (or prequels). I will admit that Empire was good and that Jedi was fun, but The Phantom Menace was fun, and it gets shit on for it. And I liked the other two prequels.
At least we can agree all the sequels from this generation were shit. I actually enjoyed parts of The Last Jedi, but mostly Luke at the end. The gravity from the bombs in space to "oh I guess Leia has been a Force user this whole time" annoyed TF outta me. And, while I do enjoy Daisy Ridley's and Adam Driver's work, I really don't like anything in the sequels associated with Rey or Kylo.
Wha? How about Rogue One? We might be of different generations, but I didn’t find any of the prequels enjoyable at all. The Force Awakens was a fun remake of A New Hope, but the two following were absolutely terrible. The Last Jedi destroyed any chance of the third movie saving the trilogy.. Rogue One was fantastic..
Rogue One was an incredible idea to take a single line and expand a story, and then use that later on to develop the Andor series was brilliant and changed how I see Star Wars. I'm actually surprised that not only was Kennedy involved, but supposedly was key in making Andor get completed. I can't understand how that occurred and yet other train wrecks happened.
I liked the end of Rogue One where it tied into the beginning of Star Wars. The rest was just okay. It may have been the best new Star Wars movie, but the bar is very low, and I wouldn't watch it again by choice.
My son is a big cinephile, and he tells me that the first three chapters of Star Wars are undergoing a critical reevaluation, and are generally considered to be pretty good these days. It's probably in response to the awful last chapters, which make the first three look like masterpieces.
Mr Lucas says so right at the start: Star wars, later known as "a new hope", always had massive product tie-in. Every production after that can but match the naked greed of the first.
That's 14 years too late and if they kept her that long with all the good franchises she fucked up i won't hold my breath for the next one they put in charge.
I wouldn't hold my breath. I think the franchise has been saturated now. The ONLY way I could see it happening is if they retconned the sequels or if they retconned all the stuff prior to the Disney purchase and made that all canon again. i'm talking books, comics, games, etc. I know Filoni has tried doing that one piece at a time but I really wish they'd just full out say "yeah this stuff is all canon again"
that being said I feel like it's too late for that stuff as the majority of those stories all revolved around Luke, Leia, Han, and their kids. I would have loved to see a Shadows of the Empire film. I would have loved to see a trilogy about Jacen, Jaina, and Ben and how they deal with all that. I REALLY wanted to see a Rogue Squad/Wraith Squad film like the Bacta War or something with Wedge, Wes, Hobbie, Tycho and Corran but instead we're getting something else completely.
Ive always said that Disney should have said "Ok fuck it, theres 2 universes. Theres the "Star Wars Expanded Universe" which will be M rated, aimed at adults and Star Wars Canon Universe which will be PG and more family friendly.
And yes, I want a Rogue/Wraith Squadron series as bad as you do. Id even settle for Dinner or Silly Squadrons.
I liked solo, a difficult story to shoehorn in, a tricky script to weave without much retcon, still a great story and surprisingly good Han (lacking only some darker hair dye) and Lando (no notes; outstanding)
I loved rogue one, and not just for the perfect ending.
Andor was perfection tarnished only by the knowledge it was ending.
TFA was derivative but still good. TLJ killed the sequels by killing the story and setting up the third movie as all but unmakeable. It's maybe killed anything else after it, and I pin the lack of a 10-11-12 series on that mess.
Mando was good until it focused too much on the child. It could have been Caine, traveling the universe and helping people in need while catching bad guys. 81 episodes at least.
Obi+wan was fucking incredible and, like Andor, only tarnished by ending.
These were, on balance, good years. We're gonna get Abrams or Berman, and know what franchisicide looks like.
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She will not be missed.
Good? There hasn't been a good Star Wars movie in the last 14 years.
I thought Revenge of the Sith was pretty good. I actually liked Attack of the Clones. I'd also forgive anyone for saying Return of the Jedi or even The Empire Strikes Back was the last good Star Wars movie.
Personally, I think Star Wars itself is the only great Star Wars movie. The rest are just sequels (or prequels). I will admit that Empire was good and that Jedi was fun, but The Phantom Menace was fun, and it gets shit on for it. And I liked the other two prequels.
At least we can agree all the sequels from this generation were shit. I actually enjoyed parts of The Last Jedi, but mostly Luke at the end. The gravity from the bombs in space to "oh I guess Leia has been a Force user this whole time" annoyed TF outta me. And, while I do enjoy Daisy Ridley's and Adam Driver's work, I really don't like anything in the sequels associated with Rey or Kylo.
Wha? How about Rogue One? We might be of different generations, but I didn’t find any of the prequels enjoyable at all. The Force Awakens was a fun remake of A New Hope, but the two following were absolutely terrible. The Last Jedi destroyed any chance of the third movie saving the trilogy.. Rogue One was fantastic..
Rogue One was an incredible idea to take a single line and expand a story, and then use that later on to develop the Andor series was brilliant and changed how I see Star Wars. I'm actually surprised that not only was Kennedy involved, but supposedly was key in making Andor get completed. I can't understand how that occurred and yet other train wrecks happened.
I liked the end of Rogue One where it tied into the beginning of Star Wars. The rest was just okay. It may have been the best new Star Wars movie, but the bar is very low, and I wouldn't watch it again by choice.
I guess you forgot Rogue One (2016), unless you think it was bad too.
Yes.
My son is a big cinephile, and he tells me that the first three chapters of Star Wars are undergoing a critical reevaluation, and are generally considered to be pretty good these days. It's probably in response to the awful last chapters, which make the first three look like masterpieces.
It's more that the Clone Wars and other animated series filled in the gaps and made the odd decisions in the movies feel more justified.
But I never watched those, so they still seem like bad movies to me.
Also due to people who loved it as kids growing up and retaining their nostalgic love
Star Wars is too busy chasing ideas that easily lead into merchandising.
Mr Lucas says so right at the start: Star wars, later known as "a new hope", always had massive product tie-in. Every production after that can but match the naked greed of the first.
The relief is ours. Leave show business.
Finally!
That's 14 years too late and if they kept her that long with all the good franchises she fucked up i won't hold my breath for the next one they put in charge.
Does this mean we might finally get a good star wars movie sometime soon?
I wouldn't hold my breath. I think the franchise has been saturated now. The ONLY way I could see it happening is if they retconned the sequels or if they retconned all the stuff prior to the Disney purchase and made that all canon again. i'm talking books, comics, games, etc. I know Filoni has tried doing that one piece at a time but I really wish they'd just full out say "yeah this stuff is all canon again"
that being said I feel like it's too late for that stuff as the majority of those stories all revolved around Luke, Leia, Han, and their kids. I would have loved to see a Shadows of the Empire film. I would have loved to see a trilogy about Jacen, Jaina, and Ben and how they deal with all that. I REALLY wanted to see a Rogue Squad/Wraith Squad film like the Bacta War or something with Wedge, Wes, Hobbie, Tycho and Corran but instead we're getting something else completely.
Ive always said that Disney should have said "Ok fuck it, theres 2 universes. Theres the "Star Wars Expanded Universe" which will be M rated, aimed at adults and Star Wars Canon Universe which will be PG and more family friendly.
And yes, I want a Rogue/Wraith Squadron series as bad as you do. Id even settle for Dinner or Silly Squadrons.
No.
Say what you will.
I liked solo, a difficult story to shoehorn in, a tricky script to weave without much retcon, still a great story and surprisingly good Han (lacking only some darker hair dye) and Lando (no notes; outstanding)
I loved rogue one, and not just for the perfect ending.
Andor was perfection tarnished only by the knowledge it was ending.
TFA was derivative but still good. TLJ killed the sequels by killing the story and setting up the third movie as all but unmakeable. It's maybe killed anything else after it, and I pin the lack of a 10-11-12 series on that mess.
Mando was good until it focused too much on the child. It could have been Caine, traveling the universe and helping people in need while catching bad guys. 81 episodes at least.
Obi+wan was fucking incredible and, like Andor, only tarnished by ending.
These were, on balance, good years. We're gonna get Abrams or Berman, and know what franchisicide looks like.