Three supporting acts quit Ed Sheeran’s tour after Macklemore is dropped over Palestine comments
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- Sheeran in defense of a few billionaire's right to close conversations they don't like
I read his statement as:
i don't really listen to ed sheeran, but i hope his lyrics are better than his prose
He's Taylor Swift for 50 year old women.
Doesn't that also describe Taylor Swift?
Nah Swift is for 36 year old women.
Taylor Swift appeals to women who are mad at their ex boyfriends for not appreciating them. Sheeran appeals to older women who wished they had found a better partner than they did.
But not better in any measurable way, because that's not Sheeran's vibe. Just "better" while still being comfortably the same.
Wow, how depressing.
Naw swift is for a lot of 30 year olds male and female.
Now, I wonder if a PR team writes his lyrics.
I doubt it would have any impact on the lyrics
I think it's a joke implying the PR team wrote the statement.
I wooshed myself.
He has pros?
Iron helps us play!
He has iron in him, right?
he was at krafits wedding, he performed there.
Unless you're a Palestinian child. Fuck those kids.
Maybe Pink can fill in. As long as there aren't any Palestinians or anti-Zionists in the audience. Otherwise she might feel uncomfortable.
We must make the world a safe place for milennial wine moms
As a Gen-xer, we don’t want her. She’s got big time boomer energy
The sooner you realize there are boomers in every generation, the sooner you accept that age isn't the old issue leading people to be complete cunts.
Idk man the boomers were an especially awful generation.
Their parents called them “the me generation”, before the baby boom became a term, because they were so selfish.
Then turned around and raised gen-x through Gen Z and called them lazy …
The boomers were a product of their time and we got fucked by them hard.
True. Boomer is a mindset.
she fully physically transformed into a Karen now.
Pink also sucks now?
When the "stopantisemitism" organisation wrote an article about macklemore pink posted it on insta and simply said "awful" or something. a week or so later she provided a more detailed stance which was kinda mixed. something like "everyone hating on me. I'm a jew. Violence is bad. hamas is bad."
She made specific allegations that Macklemore brought out a costume designed to resemble a Jewish stereotype (black hat, beard, prominent nose) and in doing so implied that Jews had responsibility for Gaza. Was she lying or distorting things?
It was 12 years ago. He wore a disguise on stage that kinda looked like a Jewish caricature. Bad costume choice, but not antisemitism IMO.
It was an antisemitic caricature. He is in the good side of the conflict, but we don't need any of this stuff.
Is there more context that obviously identifies it as a Jewish caricature?
I'm pretty sure this guy tried to sell me a moped in Macedonia.
--edit--
Here's Macklemore's response to the accusation:
Lmaoo this is you rn
sure it might hurt some feelings
how many kids did that costume bomb?
Doing this shit is collaborating with the Zionists. They love shielding behind that antizionism is antisemitism.
The shit going on there doesn't excuse racism/antisemitism
When was that ?
I too missed something.
And Kid Rock.
Honestly fuck her too. I used to like her and clearly I have terrible judgement.
I hope people start demanding refunds. Teach the daywalker that actions (or lack thereof) have consequences.
If everyone’s lack of action was persecuted we’re all going to climate change jail
Climate change jail is just Earth.
I lold
If it's relative to the level of damage then 80% of the world would only spend a day in climate change jail.
My minimum wage earning ass is getting a diversion
What does daywalker mean in this context?
It's a South Park reference, referring to his being a ginger.
I've seen the episode. I thought it meant something else.
As I understand it, all the supporting acts are out now, including his own touring band.
The touring band part illustrates his complete cowardly failure pretty well.
Yep it seems that way. Feels like a big deal. Great to see all these acts taking a stand despite the lost revenue.
Fuck pink. Fuck ed. Fuck Israel. Fuck Robert Kraft. Free Palestine!
Need a site to note genocidal zionists.
See Ed this is what you could have done called the bluff you are not powerless.
Genocide Ed there is worth an estimated $400M USD. I can't imagine having that much money and thinking "can't cause a ruckus and lose my income." Fucking coward.
You’re forgetting the other, equally likely option: he personally likes the genocide.
Perhaps the reason he has that kind of money is because the people that give it to him know that he doesn't have principles to begin with.
Pink, kid rock, and Metallica need money. You can tour with them
What did Metallica do now?
Some people are still upset about napster.
yeah I am. fuck them.
they were only anti establishment until they got rich off of said establishment, then they were all like ohhh yes establishment yes give me more more establishment yeesssss.
/probably lyrics to their shit songs. idk.
Are you me?! I've hated them since all the Napster shit back in the day and always turned the radio when "Mandatory Metallica" would come on. I'd rather sit in silence.
Then they did everyone a favor and made music after the Black Album that was absolute garbage. Load & Reload we're both Loads of shit... pun intended.
maybe you are me? I agree with all that.
that's where that's from?
dead internet theory confirmed. we are all me.
Soul fracture theory? Ugh... fine
Wow, I didn't know Mandatory Metallica was a thing, I just thought the local DJ really liked them.
I still rock out to Master of Puppets but I think bad things about James Hetfield afterwards
have you listened to "Torturing James Hetfield" by Chumbawamba? It's pretty amusing!
https://www.grunge.com/790537/the-biggest-scandals-to-ever-hit-metallica/
Is it any of these?
Their post-black-album shittiness predates the Napster idiocy by 4 years. They went to shit before they shot themselves in the foot.
I still think Master of Puppets is a fantastic album though.
was this just a Milwaukee 102.9 (if I remember right) thing or also in other regions??
Basically every rock and roll radio station has it
They did something else too, it's on the edge of my memory, ugh, in the last 5 years, something they said, oh that's going to bother me all day till it randomly pops in my head later (at 3am).
Ffs is this the reason why I get along with so many folks on the fedi?
This needs to be researched fully.
Did napster directly lead to the fediverse? Brave researchers, begin!
well I'm here because fuck spez and reddit. I was relatively unaware of fediverse and activity pub. ...but somehow totally aware of how slow matrix is going.
I mean me too, I'm talking core though.
The kind of people who would get pissed off about reddit like with the apicalypse are the same kind of people who would get mad about metallica and napster, don't you think?
And the rest are still upset about St. Anger.
Why use a snare without snare wires? BONK BONK BONK BONK BONK, is all I hear when I listen to st anger
And here's Lars, on the trash cans...
You say that, and I hate that album, but it's a legendary meme now and that's probably better than if it was Load/Reload 3.0.
Fuck Lars
They are also just kind of shitty people in general.
They've spent their entire lives with everyone telling them they were gifted musical idols, and they are to an extent. That doesn't make them great or useful people though.
They won't build you a house, or heal the sick, or drill a well, or take away your garbage, but they are good at what they do.
Funny enough. Vanilla ice would build you a house.
I'm upset about the human pile of shit they call a drummer. Clearly, when Cliff Burton died he took all the talent with him.
Are you a drummer? Cause I feel like drummers always hate Lars. I know nothing about drumming, and they all seem the same to me.
He's just a giant asshole, that's my main beef with him. For example, when they played in Bulgaria back in the day, he did an interview on TV and he was wearing two rolexes, one on each wrist.
oh, gotcha. This is probably legit.
i'm just a percussionist, not a drummer (if you ask i will lie and say i play wood block) and i wouldn't say hate, but i really dislike lars. if he bought me a drink i'd decline.
you'd think they'd have moved on, we have soulseek now
With it being so not-mainstream I actually feel safe on soulseek sharing my lib.
My name was on that first list of 150k. I never really liked Metallica to begin with and only snagged like 2 songs for a gym mix someone requested for track practice.
yea that’s when I gave up on those shills
The Metallica show I saw they were touring with Five Loser Death Punch. FFDP made plenty of right wing dog whistle comments through their set, and there’s no secret about how they want to be percieved.
I have never been to a tour where the main band doesn’t choose supporting bands that generally align with their views. Sometimes the less-popular band gets to say what the main one doesn’t want to themselves.
The atendees flew trump flags, thin blue line flags, amd Gadsden flags in the parking lot. They wore militia-style shirts and hats (crossed rifles, “freedom” slogans, raggedy flag shirts, etc). They were everywhere.
Metallica’s public image is highly curated, but everything I found about them points toward “highly conservative rich white dudes with few consequences” beliefs. The attendee’s display of thier politics just seals it.
I was a very long time Metallica fan, from the RtL, MoP, and AJfA days. I thought they were way out of line when it came to threatening fans over the whole Napster thing, but the right wing BS I saw at the concert ensures I’ll never listen to them again.
did you watch the documentary too
Yes
So... Grunt Style?
Among others.
The promoter really said, “we support genocide in this house,”
and all the supporting acts responded, “we don’t take blood money! Bye Ed.”
Yesterday, Ed Sheeran said he couldn't cancel tge tour because it would screw over his other amazing supporting acts. Today, headline went like
Robert Kraft is ultra zionist pro genocide Trump donor, btw. Owns the tour, afaik, or at least some of the arenas.
The same guy who went to rub 'n tugs
specifically at places that were under investigation for human trafficking
Eds eyes watching them walk away in different directions.
That's how you can tell he's not a predator.
Have seen this a couple times lately, and I'm apparently way out of the loop, as I don't get the joke?
Ed Sheeran just plays the standard pop chord lineup when he plays guitar. E, G, C, A, D. The rest of the guitar is wasted space in his hands. It’s definitely a joke about a musician specifically for musicians to laugh at.
His music is childishly simple and uses pretty much a singular method of music theory and the circle of fifths and caters wholly to the major scale. He writes baby music to be played on a baby guitar.
I never really could describe that until now, great term, "baby music" is exactly how I'd describe it. It's not like most pop has loads of depth, but his has like none. I literally felt like dozing out when I listened to a few clips.
No hate for people who like that, but it feels like listening to an uninteresting podcast for me.
Right, like elevator music but it hurts in your ears.
"I make elevating music, you make elevator music."
–Eminem
"I make elevators" - Elisha Otis
Hell, even elevator music isn’t afraid to noodle a scale from time to time.
I'm guessing Ed Sheeran has no neck? Lol
I was going to say short pale thin dick. I think we can all be right
He's small. That's it.
Aaron Rowe,
Beoga,
Lukas Graham,
Finneas
I feel like their names should be said.
They are not large bands who make millions and deserve your support!
Ed Sheeran stands to gain most from this from the free publicity.
Lukas Graham is pretty big. And Finneas is Billie Eilish’s brother and producer. He makes a ton of money.
The other two though are absolutely standing on business and taking a hit.
Fair enough, I didn't know any of them before but it's not really my style of music. I still feel like they are nowhere near as popular as Sheeran.
Beoga actually sound quite nice classic irish folk music!
Well I guess Lukas Graham only had the one big album a while back. So good on them too for standing up.
You are right that none of them are as big as Ed Sheeran though.
All of this could have been avoided if Ed Sheeran had the balls to quit Ed Sheeran's tour.
Dude he's so fucking dumb. He should have just said the tour was no longer being planned. Now the assholes who own the arenas get nothing, and have to find a new show for the dates that were being negotiated. Less money and more work for then
Keep in mind, him making a public statement wouldn't really mean anything. It's not legally binding. But it would probably get the hungry old money in line
I imagine those people got contracts, and If one side gets offended and prevented you from playing, you are not breaching the contract they are, and you get to be a Hero, and people would love you, but He made His choice and He prefers to be on the side of someone literally on the epstein files.
Robert Kraft is a Zionist POS.
a bigger kunt, because he got mad, and told all the stadium owner/sports team to ban him too.
He is a massive prick.
Oh gee, won't you think of the poor workers who wouldn't be able to do setup and tear down for his tour if he took a stand against genocide. It's awful really, just awful.
Does anyone here have any song from the supporting acts you would recommend?
Lucas Graham - 7 Years, Mama Said, and Drunk in the morning.
Mischief Brew - Boycott Me!
Haven't cared about his music, but didn't know he was this out of touch...
he did perform at Kraft's weddings, hes trying to not bite the hand that feeds him.
I didn't know that since I'm not following him, but yeah, it tracks.
How I felt too. Found a few new bands to add to my library though. Fuck sheeran
Its good. I almost wish they went and gave the exact same speech. You can only defeat the nazis by punching them in the face.
"I am not complicit. I have my personal views on this devastating conflict. Just because I choose not to speak publicly, it doesn't mean I don't have them, and it doesn't mean I don't care." what do you guy think?
https://twitee.co/collinrugg/status/2099981022083584296
Wow, the replies to that post are crazy. I’d like to believe these are some Israeli bots, especially the crazies with USA flags in their names, but fuck it’s hard to distinguish what’s real.
tinfoil hat time
Ed Sheeran purposely made this decision with the hopes it would lead to everyone else backing out and if he had stood his ground it's possible that the tour, or at least that venue appearance, would have been canceled with little to no fanfare.
I know it's stupid and that's why I put the tinfoil hat on.
I do feel kind of bad for the guy he got put in a shitty situation even Macklemore said so.
Nobody worth almost half a billion could ever be in a shitty situation regarding future income.
"Palestine comments" wtf is this cope framing? He dressed as a hook nosed Jew stereotype on stage. The only reason Ed is a coward is he didn't cite him being a rabid dog of an antisemite as the reason he was kicked out.
Is Israel committing a genocide in Gaza?
Am I the only one who feels this is a manufactured outrage? I don't listen to either Pink or Ed, but there is so many other issues to be outraged about. Or are people just channeling their anger towards Ed.
All the reactions just seems out of proportion to me.
You're probably not the only one. I'm sure there's plenty of folks who either support or deny the genocide who feel the same way.
Having said that, I disagree with you. To give an analogy, imagine that Macklemore had said something along the lines of "the holocaust is a bad thing, and the jews, Poland, France, etc deserve to be free" and then got kicked off the tour. The backlash would've been immense. There would be calls for cancelling the tour, and rightly so. It would be completely backwards to kick Macklemore off the tour, and people would wonder if Sheeran was some kind of neo nazi. Nothing manufactured about that.
The only difference here is the target of the genocide and the countries being invaded. But denying it or supporting it, or harming people for speaking up about it is equally terrible.
My comment has nothing to do with the genocide. It has to do with fact that to me it's such a strong reaction and now being fed by the media, that it feels manufactured. Like some distraction tactic from all the real shit that is happening. To me, I don't understand why everyone is just piling on. It seems disproportionate. Or people using this situation to target their anger about other issues.
To be clear it is the reaction that feels controlled outrage, not the cause of the issue.
Just look at the Reddit /all main page and more than 50% are all posts about Ed.
Like the genocide? Idk, this feels related to the genocide.
Do you feel like the same reaction would be equally manufactured if Macklemore was talking about the holocaust? Because to me in either case the outrage feels like a very normal reaction. Sheeran's doing the exact opposite of the right thing, with the context being one of the worst crimes that a group of people can commit.
And the media reporting in this seems part of the normal manufacturing consent operation, right? "Antisemite kicked off of tour, antisemitic supporting groups follow suit" fits zionist framing perfectly.
Genocide isn't real. Got it.
We're privileged not to have to be living it day after day. We're privileged to be able to scroll on our phones and ignore news that makes us feel icky.
So many others aren't. Silence is speech and Ed's choice to speak on behalf of Israel's judeofascist government is and ought to be news.
Like, for real bro... What the hell are you even saying with your complaint?
he's not changing the image of gingers being degenerate freaks
Fuck you firstly for spreading Nazi eugenics propaganda bullshit, which is exactly what the term "degenerate" is.
And then an additional secondary fuck you for the unprompted, unwarranted, unnecessary shitting on anyone for the genes they were born with.
We gingers get bullied for being ginger more than enough as it is throughout childhood and teenage years, we don't need comments like this adding to it.
no orange cunt went to the gas chamber for being an orange cunt you drama queen.
they didn't care about you.
stop being a cunt
Bro. Grow up.
You could've apologized and moved on, but instead you doubled down. It's like your skull is full of really stupid bees.