Trump calls on Ukraine to halt strikes on Russian diesel, saying attacks are causing a shortage
Donald Trump on Sunday called on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to halt strikes on Russian diesel, saying the attacks are causing a fuel shortage.
Ukraine’s long-range strikes have been targeting Russia’s oil and gas industry for months, which Kyiv says both funds and directly fuels Moscow’s more than four-year-old invasion of its neighbor.
The Ukrainian drone campaign has caused fuel rationing across Russia, despite the country being a key oil and gas exporter. Other Ukrainian strikes targeted major Russian online retailers, bringing the war ever closer to the public.
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The Orange Shitbag Russian asset can piss off. The Muscovites should leave Ukrainian territory, which includes the Crimea.
Oh ffs. Putin could retreat from Ukraine anytime.
Yeah, I know he can't. He'd be done for politically and possibly also physically.
US should let Seal Team 6 handle this new oil crisis like they handled Bin Laden. Just send the them to Putin's Datscha and boom, Russia would retreat from Ukraine, Ukraine would stop hitting Russia. Problem solved.
1 man
This is probably not correct, and seal team six would likely have much higher risk trying to go I to Russia, and neither AL queda nor venuxela have nukes.
I'm not convinced this ends with Putin though. Yes, there's a chance the next guy in line will want to pull out, blame Putin for all the shortcomings, and act like this shit never happened. But that's not the Russian way. The Russian way is fuck all the poor people, let's start a war that is surely going to help us domestically. This could still mean pulling out of Ukraine, but then invading some other more defenceless country, just to show that Russia is still powerfull and manly.
So no, I'm not convinced cutting the head off the snake is really the solution.
Uhh was America buying Russian petroleum? Thought there was an embargo?
Deisel is a resource used globally. The US doesn't have to be purchasing Russian oil for Russian supplies to impact oil prices in the US.
It's also why the whole argument about drilling in the US to make oil cheaper falls apart. Oil from Venezuala, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Texas, Trinidad, Abu Dhabi, or Alaska all end up in the same international commodity markets.
Like most presidents, Trump's term will end with a helicopter ride.
Except it won't be Marine One.
Trump will be evacuated from the White House by an FSB extraction helicopter.
Yeah, I figure as soon as he is out of office he will vanish to somewhere without extradition.
America is super tough on tgeir criminal leaders i heard
Literally the point
Halt strikes on Iran and you'll get more supply
This is too fuckin funny man. This gives me a tremendous amount of joy, and strengthens my support for the Ukrainian war effort. Keep going Volodymyr!
Lol the shortage is caused by starting a war with Iran
Hit Russia harder Ukraine, make sure that they remember this the next time they think of invading!
Make them give up thr nuclear weapons.
Well, actually, the diesel thing started with the Ukraine war because Russia is a massive diesel producer and the sanctions drove diesel prices up starting 3 years ago.
lol
To be fair, this graph doesn't really counter the above comment.. you'd need a graph from ~2020 (or before) to disprove their comment around prices rising 3 years ago.
Of course it doesn't, because they're being disengenuous; retail diesel was under $2 in 2021.
2021 was also just pulling out of the pandemic that sent oil prices negative for a while because demand destruction was so radical. I don't think that's a fair comparison.
Better look is here for complete data back to 1990... Diesel was pretty stable mostly through 2012 to 2020 at around $3/USD. It dropped during the pandemic, then spiked again after Russia's invasion. It was slowly returning to an average baseline before Trump stuck his dick in it though.
So it looks stable until all of the US wars in the middle east around 2000s
That sounds like he does not have the cards if he has to beg like this.
Donny boy's hand: 2♣, 🟥, 🦤, 2+2=, Four Seasons Landscaping 📇
I'm pretty sure that's not a winning hand.
He might have them after the mid terms, but the libs keep scalping them with the magic ones because they hate baby Jesus
Instead of calling on Russia to end the war which would also stop the attacks and have the benefit of stopping the fucking killing of families and shit
Stop or what? You'll pull all aid? You'll pressure Ukraine to surrender to the Russians?
Oh wait, you've already done that.
Get fucked, Russian puppet Trump.
While I don't want to be a Negative Nancy, I also don't want the remaining forces of the West to lose touch with reality, so I feel I should point out that there are still things Trump could do to put even more pressure on Ukraine, so we shouldn't be flippant about the threat he still poses.
Nah, fuck that. Trump shouldn't threaten a tiny country.
To be clear, I don't disagree with the fact that Trump needs to take a long walk off a short pier. My point is that we can't afford to convince ourselves that Trump has already done all the damage he's going to do.
Shouldn't? 100%.
Wouldn't? 0%
I feel the fuck Trump mentality to my bones. And I get that talking shit in our little corner of the internet will accomplish fuck all either way, so have at it.
But in the big picture, Tango is right, Trump has the power to make things much worse for Ukraine, and the emotional maturity of a two year old. The means don't justify the ends, especially when those ends are Trump switching from passive fucking with Ukraine, to active.
Shut the FUCK UP, DONNIE! YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR GOD DAMNED ELEMENT!
Unfortunately he could have a colouring book with crayons and still not be in any element he's qualified for.
Oh this is the guy slightly half of actual participating voters in that country voted for too. Though I do think there's a good chance not all totals were valid, every fucking swing state? Even their God Reagan didn't get that blowout, but whatever their system that they decided to fuck over the world with. Good luck on any deals once the orange turd has been flushed.
The conservative movement has spent decades cultivating plyable idiots for the purpose of enriching the few in charge. I sometimes wonder if they were caught off guard by how deeply stupid their base is.
he called for a strait to open on his way to the golf course
Did it open?
The golf course? Yes.
Fuck that. Slava ukraini.
Ukraine President Zelenskyy calls on President donald trump to halt strikes on Iranian diesel, saying the attacks sre causing a fuel shortage.
This was the funniest bit :
Lol this is all Zelensky's fault! If only they would let Russia win. What a pathetic pos trump is
It could be that Trump is afraid that he will be usurped as the greatest destroyer of diesel supplies. No one chokes fuel like Demented Don!
That's literally the goal of the attacks...
It is great to get confirmation that it has the intended effect from putins lap dog himself though
Strange because Russian could stop it themselves… very simply.
This. Why doesnt pedo president call pukin to halt their invasion of their neighbours
Same reason my car doesn't tell me where it wants to go, but instead it's the other way around
If Ukraine keeps beating Russia, they may have to release the pee tapes
P as in pedo.
Unfortunately, they could release a 4k dolby atmos IMAX film of trump raping a schoolbus full of kindergardners, and MAGA would foam at the mouth trying to defend it. I don't think anything can touch him at this point.
100% this. At this point all the "ohh, but don't talk about (shitty thing The Dictator did this week), talk about the Epstein files" bullshit is just a smoothly running distraction campaign that works for MAGA.
American's do not care that Trump is a rapist and a paedophile. They made their peace with that long ago and elected him anyway.
Honestly, I can't even understand the motivation. "Ohh, if only the Great American People knew he diddled kids, we'd get rid of him. The millions of dead overseas (between wars started or extended and USAID), the rebuilding of the US Federal machine as a tool of fascist oppression, state control of media, masked goons disappearing people in the street, all of that stuff we're pretty fine with, but diddling some white blonde kids is where we draw the line." Do you think this makes you look good?
I've already seen people on Facebook saying "I don't care if he's a pedo as long as he deports all the criminals", and things can get even worse on the front of defending Trump...
Someone always comes along with almost exactly this reply, as if its a valid reason to keep hiding whichever gross pedo evidence is in question.
Its a valid point though, there is enough out there now to bury anyone in a real nation. In the us they have punished the victims and paid the perpetrators. Its not as if they should not release more info, more that just releasing it does nothing if no charges are laid.
that's about all the motivation the need to go on
Oh now he's suddenly concerned lmao.
Funny, he didn't seem concerned when fucking the Hormuz Strait and then lifting oil sanctions for Putin to sell off oil at a premium.
Hope Ukraine doubles their strike rate.
No, now he suddenly sees somebody else to blame for diesel suddenly shooting up above $6 a gallon
That's because increasing the price of oil so Russia could sell at a premium was a nice side effect of attacking Iran, if not part of the main reasons in the first place. It wouldn't surprise me if documents declassified decades down the line reveal that was a primary reason for attacking Iran alongside doing whatever Israel wants.
But Donald said fuel prices weren’t up.
But he also said he didn't care about fuel prices and how they were up.
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
Fuel prices are down 1500%, didn't you hear?
nice. can't wait to get paid to fill up!
No one listens to chump anymore. It's lake Ontario forever.
Amazingly enough, Mr. Orange Turd, that is Exactly. The. Fucking. Point.
quiet krasnov!
pssst Ukraine, go harder.
Hit them harder 🇺🇦
4 years into the weekend long special military operation.
Slava Ukraini!
Bro, what?
Once again, Putin's running dog.
Trump calls on US to halt strikes on Iranian oil, saying attacks are causing a shortage.
"Stop defending yourself and lose already so I can buy cheap fuel from your invader."
You'd think one of the three letter agencies would have stopped this Russian asset by now.
Pretty sure they're all Russian assets as well, at least the leadership.
I am on the phone with Ukraine right now telling them to strike much harder. Please take all our weapons and go get them!
I chipped in for a mobile battery station for their drones. It's cool because you can buy stuff for the troops directly, they state their outfit and their need and you donate towards a goal and it can be like a battery supply, combat gloves, whatever.
I can't fight but at least maybe I can keep our boys' trigger fingers warm.
https://u24.gov.ua/
Gotta research a way to do this with decent OPSEC.
Today's "funding a free nation under assault" could quickly turn on a dime into "financial evidence of SpOnSoWiNg TeWwOwiSm"
So THAT'S why Ukraine wouldn't take my call.
Didn't you hear? Kegsbreath used all the cruise missiles up on Iran
Help me to understand this. The US has sanctioned oil and diesel exports from Russia, so the US isn't getting oil from Russia, right? So, if Russian oil exports are reduced or stopped, this would have no impact on the US. The US is only concerned about what happens to the US, so what am I missing?
Distraction. He's trying to distract the world of the fact that his war on Iran has fucked the oil supplies of the whole world and he's having a crisis at home because of it.
Blaming Zelensky for it makes his base believe the war against Iran is not the real problem.
That shit doesn't actually work outside America, even if in America the "Child Fucking Is Fine When Done By My Favorite Politicians" MAGA types will find a way to support and believe pretty much everything spewed by their "heroes" no matter how derranged.
No, the world oil market is more or less interconnected, so if the total supply of oil reduces, the price will increase throughout the world.
Yeah. Also the US exports more oil than it imports. The total supply of oil reducing means American oil companies will be forced to sell their supplies for even more money
There's no logic here to find, other than Trump making shit up as he tries to deflect blame for high oil prices he created with his stupid fucking war.
I believe that is the point.
I wonder why he would say that
Yeah, nah
Instead of pressuring Russia to pull their forces and end the war.
In what way could the US pressure Russia that it isn't already doing? There are sanctions on top of sanctions. Ukraine seems to have plenty of offensive weapons, and the thing they do need (Patriot missiles) are globally in short supply.
And? Ukraine has no reason to pull back anything. They've been invaded. The only reason Trump wants this is because he wants Russia to win.
You're the one asking Trump to "dooo something". Trump doesn't give a shit about Ukraine. He's scapegoating Zelensky over high fuel costs, that he's caused himself by fucking around with Iran.
No, I'm commenting on how he is doing what Russia wants.
And I'm asking: how? What actually, could Trump do differently? As I said, there's nothing left to sanction. Ukraine is able to project attacks against valuable Russian assets. It looks to me that what Ukraine is lacking is missile/drone defense which just doesn't exist. I mean maybe Trump could take them away from Israel, but good luck with that!
There's probably other equipment/intelligence that the US could supply to Ukraine. Maybe something more productive than telling Ukraine not to attack, or to not try and bully Zelenskyy when he visits the US.
I mean the US is? I'm sure they are assisting (as is Europe) with intelligence/targeting. I'm saying, that all seems to be working fine as evidenced by so many successful strikes in Russian territory. The one thing that Ukraine desperately needs is air defence, and we've used it all up losing a fight with Iran! Look, fucckk Trump. He's a total piece of shit. But the reality of his policy towards Ukraine isn't much different from what Biden's was. It seems pretty clear to me that US policy is to maintain a stalemate in Ukraine. They like keeping Russia bogged down, and the MIC making money.
Meanwhile the US is disrupting diesel supplies by bombing.... Dumbest timeline ever!
It's very convenient for USA an blackrock to keep the war going and Ukraine in debt....
Not if the US runs out of diesel because of it lol
Blackrock's main thing is ETFs and of course the best ones are broad index funds like S&P 500, Dow Jones, etc. Tons of companies still depend on physical products, which all depend on diesel fuel
Oh, poor baby, did Daddy Putin pull your chain?
"saying attacks are causing a shortage". The pedo is a genius.
“You don’t have any cards”
Part of being President of the United States is understanding the global scale of conflict and how our actions affect resources. Maybe you should have considered that when you provoked Iran, fucktard.
It was a lot more than a provocation.
It was an illegal attack of war and a war crime already on day 1.
He should tell US military apparatus to stop assisting Ukraine with targeting. It's all US controlled satellites that permit all Ukrainian terror strikes.
Russia can end the war they started today by conceding the loss, give territory back to Ukraine, and let Putin accidentally fall out of a window.
Always depressing to see so many supporting your demonic fiction. That debate aside, point is Trump doesn't need to ask Zelensky for anything. He just needs to stop US military/GPS support operations. So this is yet another distraction from the 100 other distractions focusing away from failures. But also, that Trump supports his oligarch donors profits from high oil/diesel prices.
Only demonic fiction I see is the idea that Ruzzia can win this war.
Over 1,200 days into Putin's weekend long special military operation.
That's what wars are GOOD for.
WHY would Trump START a war if he didn't want prices to go up?
So he's forgotten the countries are at war. There's literally no other explanation for thinking this is new information, and not the entire motherfucking point. Trump's forgotten Ukraine and Russia are at war.
Sure, just as soon as Russia withdraws from all pre-2014 UA territory. 👍
Of course the world should just lie back and take it while these thugs (Trump, Putin and their oligarchs) gang rape the rest of us.
He's talking about diesel prices in the US. Which is true in absolute, but not in magnitude. Impressive way to distract from the US-Israel war on Iran that created the bulk of the global shortage. :D
Sounds like Ukraine has some cards. Can’t poor Russia defend itself?
Trump wants Ukraine to allow its enemy to make money off of oil sales. Trump should allow his own enemy to sell oil first.
Sounds like negotiations for patrion production licence are in order.
Trump failed successfull again
Exceeded at failing, is more like it
The cope in this thread is out of this world.
Oh look, an ML siding with the invaders.
What a surprise.
I am lost on where this "cope" even is? If russia was winning why would the orange king need to ask Ukraine to stop? What is the cope in this case in these comments? I don't get it.
Kids that don't understand what's going on around them like to accuse others of "cope".
That seems mean to children, they tend to be better then you describe.
I don't actually know, come to think of it.
... I thought Russia was super sanctioned and would be flat broke in a few months? Also, they've been out of missiles and soldiers for what... four years now?
I'm not a five-star general economist rocket professor, but something isn't adding up...
Agreed, Ukraine needs to keep blasting and ignore obvious market manipulation bullshit.