JD Vance says Republicans got tired of being ‘called racist’ for noticing America ‘becoming dirtier’
While speaking on the final night of the GOP midterm convention, Vice President JD Vance said the country was “poorer” and “dirtier” before President Donald Trump was reelected for a second term.
“We were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer, and less safe and less prosperous,” Vance said on the final day of the two-day convention in Dallas, Texas.
His sentiment appeared to reflect the administration’s efforts to combat rising immigration rates in the U.S., a key campaign point during the 2024 election. Vance himself promoted unsubstantiated claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, in September 2024, spreading misinformation about the community abducting and eating pets.
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The billionaires are the only group of "welfare queens" making the world a dirtier place.
Nobody has made America dirtier or poorer than MAGA has.
American workers have been getting poorer since the 1970s.
Every President, bOtH pArTiEs, American workers are poorer.
Poland now has better benefits for their people, with benefits that most Americans will never see (and they're paid almost as much, with less taxation, on a smaller budget).
Family leave (41 weeks!). Vacation time (20 days!!!). Universal healthcare. Sick leave. "Occasional" leave, for the love of God. Sounds nice.
I guess their labor party can do so much more with so much less, for some reason.
https://www.dudkowiak.com/employment-law-in-poland/employee-benefits-in-poland
Ah perpetual victimhood
The Turd Reich
JD Vance: "Am I racist for wanting those filthy dirty Haitians to take a shower and go back to their country?"
Whether or not America was "dirtier and poorer" before Trump is immaterial here. Ascribing that to immigrants and people who look like immigrants is racist.
I'm sure they are tired of being called racist, but that doesn't mean it's not true.
It also wasn't "less safe", violent crime has been dropping for quite a while in most areas
No the FBI changed the definition of violent crime under Biden administration and have specifically ignored certain areas to bias the numbers.
I just saw you're a weird e-Christian so I'm not going to bother replying to you :) good luck!
Even if we pretend that is true, the statement you are responding to is about statistics that predate Biden... by decades. Violent crime has been going down since the 90s. On average people are probably safer today than they were fifty or even thirty years ago.
Is there a place I can get the raw data? That's what I want raw data
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality.
https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/downloads
Nice! I shall see for myself
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality and ignores the deaths of minorities.
Also, not to engage with the point too much, but what do they think of Muslim immigrants? Ethnically speaking, people from that culture is particularly strict on cleanliness.
When they say dirty, they don’t actually mean hygiene. They mean melatonin.
I mean I know what they think of them, sigh, I don't know who I pretend there's even a kernel of a good faith argument here
The U.S. has become safer and safer every decade since the 90s. It didn't matter who was president...always safer.
"Poorer and dirtier" says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash.
source: was also raised white trash, but did manage to develop class consciousness.
Guy who was actually not raised as "white trash", and who has been lying and changing his tune constantly throughout his public life.
Exactly. A true conman at heart.
Elvis Jell-O molds are MY CULTURE, VANCE, NOT YOURS
congrats on starting your journey to recovery.
Translation: Republicans are tired of being called racist for being racist.
You realise that this is still better than republicans don't mind being racist, which is still better than republicans being proud to be racist.
They love being racist, they just don't claim it.
'I only fuck white couches and sofas'
Welp
JD Vance on why it's ok to lie about immigrants if it makes his base like him more. There is no comeuppance great enough for what they're doing, and he knows it. A lot of the base may be too brainwashed, but he can see that he is ruining the country and he not only doesn't care but is reveling in it.
I wonder if anyone today even remembers wondershowzen.
Kids on the beat, kids on the street, Beat Kids
I didn't. I would seem like something I might have enjoyed were I still watching MTV at that late date. Post 95 I only watched MTV's interstitial programming on the weekends exclusively. 120 Minutes and AMP. And when those ended so did me watching MTV . The gif itself was all over somethingawful.com, 4Chan etc though.
Kid's show, kid's show, change the channel forrrr.... Kids
I do. I got my nephews to watch it so as to pass it down. Great show.
I started watching it last week even though I'm old enough to have seen it on TV.
This is so funny because to the people he's pandering to, his children are the dirt in this country.
It's baffling to me that he is in an interracial marriage and is... Fine? With saying this kind of stuff? Idk maybe she is a monster too and it's just cherry picking what is considered bad in their moral compass...
She must be a monster, she married JD Vance.
A few days ago Vance also got really riled up when discussing this kinda stuff. He said something about El Sayed not being the kinda person his hick granpappy would approve of and El Sayed shot back asking if the hick granpappy would approve of his wife. It really set him off, going on about how El Sayed shouldn't bring Vance's family into this. It was kinda funny to watch him squirm.
JD Vance is nothing. He's not evil or stupid or whatever like the other MAGA people. He' just a guy that nobody likes.
Wait, sounds like Vance brought his family into the convo first. The mental gymnastics these sad sacks of shit perform boggles me.
He does that a lot. He tries to sneak in some "veiled' attack or remark and when people call him out for it he says they're attacking him or his family. He's a pathetic little man that thinks is somehow smarter than everyone else.
Here's the article about the El Sayed bit if you wanna see it yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/01/abdul-el-sayed-jd-vance-evil
That's a very common conservative trait: playing victim in situations you caused.
Thanks for the link, it was a fun read.
They roll over and play victim the moment someone pushes back on them
He’s a grifter. James is an ivy leaguer who makes hay about his single mother and “hillbilly roots” while wears eyeliner and pretends to be a tough guy.
It’s no surprise he talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Monster for staying married after already having kids or monster for marrying? The Vance of the early-mid 2010s was very different before the Thiel money kicked in. He compared Trump to Hitler.
He was very easily bought though.
JD Vance is the Ted Cruz of the administrative branch.
Usha Vance is a very pale skinned, high caste (Brahmin), wealthy migrant who was set up with JD Vance by Yale Law kingmaker Amy Chua.
This was a political marriage in the feudal sense. Vance is married in order to secure a social tie to Indian power brokers, as part of a generations-long effort by American elites to encircle Asia and control their domestic politics.
Same reason why Mitch McConnell married Tiawanese shipping magnet Elaine Chao.
She is not pale skinned by any Indian measure. Look at the actresses, they are a good bar to compare to.
That’s really interesting. Crazy this shit still happens. I guess I’m just not rich enough. And I’m gonna be pedantic, it’s magnate when you’re referring to someone who is a pillar of industry, not magnet 😉
This is as much a Yale thing as a Rich thing. Lots of weird freaky Trad types in the Ivy League.
That part checks out. There's a lot of weird creepy over conservative trad types amongst the 1%.
Remember this is the guy who called the pedo a traitor for his role in Jan 6, then like a year later accepting the position as his VP.
His words are whatever he needs them to be.
Just because the couch is leather, does not mean he's in an interracial relationship.
Indian people tend to be considered white in a lot of American spaces. May have to do with the amount of Indian immigrants that are higher caste/lighter skinned. They tend to be super racist towards black people and darker Asians
Don’t know why you’re downvoted like that, casteism/colorism is well-known within the Indian community. The Brahmins and White nationalists are like-minded in that sense, although the White nationalists still see themselves as superior.
They are religiofascist to a degree and demonize Muslims and enforce the “superiority” of Hinduism. There are definitely some mirrors to what has happened in their government versus ours.
I mean, some Indians have a fetish for Hitler, rooted in stupid legends about Aryanism. The pick-me-ism is insane.
I think the down votes are probably because I've never encountered a space where Indians are considered white, maybe in Silicon Valley? I hear more racist jokes about Indians than any other ethnic group in the Southeast US, though I hear more racist comments about black people and Hispanics.
Maybe it's because I'm from a weird Californian region but I fell like Indians are generally pumped into the "dirty Asians" category regardless of caste or skin tone. But also I've seen really racist assholes defend the local Sikhs in particular so maybe my region is just weird.
I think exceptions and tokens play an important role in permitting the followers of fascists to deny the general principles of the people they follow, even in their own minds. For example, if Vance's wife is brown, then Trump can't hate all brown people, right? Then he must be rounding up those other brown people for some reason other than their being brown. The news keeps saying they're rounding up criminals, many of whom happen to be brown, and the Left keeps screeching that Republicans hate all brown people, but his wife is brown... so the Left must be lying. The evidence to the contrary is right in front of your eyes.
And so on. Tokens are kept around by Republicans because they provide the thinnest possible veneer of plausible deniability to people who are afraid of non-whites but don't want to think of themselves as racists. It's a convenient off-ramp from a road that would otherwise tempt them to think difficult thoughts about themselves and the policies they approve of or at least willfully ignore.
My theory is that he's slowly and deliberately trying to poison his own marriage so his wife will divorce him, then he'll try to marry Erika Kirk.
The leather pants she wore during her Charlie Kirk grief tour reminded him of his couch and it hasn't left his mind since.
Not to sound like a Vaush fanboy, but think he has a point when he says these people don't actually believe what they're saying. It's just an excuse for cruelty.
Fascism has taken on a new form when it comes to race. I think people focus too heavily on the historical examples of fascism in an attempt to "reason" it as an ideology.
The racial structures of fascism are there to uphold white supremacy, patriarchy, and class. The contradiction is useful for the fascist. It is not a flaw or something that will cause conflict to other fascist. JD vance's wife being Indian is seen as "useful". Nothing more. That's primarily how fascism operates. It's why the definition of "Aryan" changed throughout place and time under Nazi rule. It's the reason why who is considered "White" didn't even include Germans when Benjamin Franklin used was using the term.
Maybe he hates his kids?
I've never heard him say he doesn't
"We are tired of being called racists for noticing America is getting dirty. Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently lesser."
I mean, not to get too deep into the weeds here but it seems like he’s literally saying dirtier because of the people in it, not like trash dirtier. It’s not even a misdirect on the phrase it’s a straight up dogwhitsle calling poor people dirty and equating that to non-white people. Your analysis is pretty spot on but more specifically “ Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently dirtier. “ which is straight out of hitlers handbook. Almost like Trump has said handbook nearby, at the ready, like at his bedside table or something…
Totally agree, thinly veiled racism is this administration's calling card.
That’s what I’m saying tho it’s not thin. It’s not barley even a dog whistle but we’ve pulled that window so far right that saying America is dirty (not trash, but literally the people) is just blatant racism. And you got some guy in here saying it’s paranoia. Ha
Here we go with the dog whistle bullshit.
do you think racists don't use dog whistles? or that Republicans haven't been using racist dog whistles since the southern strategy?
It's democratic paranoia.
it would be great if you could answer the question. Are you saying Dog whistles don't exist? are you claiming the Republican party hasn't been using dog whistles since the southern strategy of Nixon's third presidential campaign?
I didn’t even think conservatives could find their way out here. Fascinating. Do you think dogwhistles don’t exist? Cuz I see dudes around who have em tattooed on them… even tho thier tat doesn’t say heil Hitler, it says 1488, it’s literally what it means. It’s called a dog whistle because it’s meaningless unless you know what the true intentions are.
(Or quite literally, you blow a whistle only dogs can hear, meaning you can only “hear it” if you’re a certain kind of person that’s “in the know”) Trump does it all the time, too, I can prove it if needed. Usually I wouldn’t explain the concept but if you’re a right winger it’s gonna be totally necessary for this conversation to work out.
The origins of the pet eating accusation is some woman complaining her cat was missing and accusing their neighbour of eating it. The cat came back the very next day.
The cat came back It couldn't stay away Meow kitty Meow so pretty Meow what a pity But the cat came back
Dunno if these are the exact lyrics but close enough...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJl_4IsQJ2g
This isn't why they were called racists. They were called racists for claiming that Barack Obama wasn't American, for trying to build a wall to keep out Central and South Americans, and for banning immigration from countries where most people are Muslim.
Let's not forget "they're eating the cats"
Do you think they're arguing in good faith?
I wouldn't trust Vance on faith matters, good or otherwise. This is a man who thinks he's Catholic but disagrees with the Pope on some pretty basic stuff.
You should look into what's happening in France.
It is getting dirtier and poorer, and all the guys responsible sat pride-of-place at the inauguration.
Yeah, that's racist.
In the past year, I've been called racist, commie, Trumper, Nazi, transphobic, tankie, fascist, fundamentalist, sexist, and Satanist.
Buck up Vance, you little bitch
Retard
Sure thing Just Dumb Racist. It is shocking to see voters that continue to support the racist neo-Nazi losers that are making every attempt to weaken the USA.
We see where all the money went dipshit
Racist doesn’t like being called a racist. What kind of rebrand are they asking for, nazimaxxing?
What'll probably help you with the racist label is if you stop doing and saying racist things all the time 🤷♂️
The kkk just can't wrap their heads around this.
Counting or not counting gang racism?
Such precious little snowflakes.
Weird. Why does JD tie those two things together in his mind? I mean, if he's not racist?
And I’m tired of being called a woke blue haired sjw socialist get the fuck over it pussies.
It's so still so bizarre to me that a social justice warrior is supposedly like a bad thing.
I've come to understand it as is used, but on its own I still expect people who are hearing it for the first time being like hey that sounds pretty awesome, someone who fights for social justice in this shit hole world
It's not that surprising. Language has been doing it for ages, probably forever.
A "bleeding heart", mocking someone who is too empathetic. A goody-two-shoes. Terms have always been made for people that "indulge" too much into something regardless of whether it's the polar extremes of acquiring money or donating it.
If you're just surprised at the name, then idk, shit's gotta have some kinda name.
I said it's bizarre to me.
You said it's not that surprising.
Do you understand the difference in our 2 opinions?
Mine is a personal opinion, while you arrogantly tell me I'm wrong to express my personal experience.
Think about that for a second while you reread our 2 comments.
Your choice for words determines how people understand you.
I don't see where I said you're "wrong to express your personal experience."
But you're a literal stranger to me, and there's no accounting for "taste". Such is life.
You said "It's not surprising." As a statement of fact. As you wrote it, it offers no leeway for an argument or an opinion and that means you are saying I'm wrong.
The way I see it... in my mind... I don't think...I think that... You didn't say these any countless ways to allow for my opinion to be anything other than wrong.
You chose words that didn't allow for any other opinions in direct response to me clearly stating an experience i am currently having and have held for decades.
That's pretty rude. Unintentional or not, that's what you did with your word choice, or lack there of.
This is text, you have the responsibility to clearly say what you mean. You chose not to
"It's not that surprising." is what I wrote. It's the very first sentence.
Not that surprising. A relative phrasing requiring the first measure to be a benchmark, e.g. "yeah, it's kinda sad but not that sad."
So hung up on what I "said" when it seems like you misread and misinterpreted it.
"It's not that surprising" and then I gave examples of how you could reframe "social justice warrior" into the long history of people mocking well-meaning people who were viewed as excessive...
Well, do you have blue hair?
Yes, this is the important detail.
And pubes! don't! count!
I'm tired of fielding this very frequent question, that I get often.
Just the ones on top of your head. And/or a tattoo of hair, if you're follicularly-challenged.
Racists.
If it's poorer and dirtier, that's on the majority whites who are overwhelmingly in charge of shit. The quality of the white people has gone down because you don't even have to pretend to be qualified for leadership anymore. Just coast through ivy league or whatever, get in business or politics by nepotism, and then you get to abuse your power indefinitely while you blame minorities for all the problems you ignore while grifting.
Since the orange cancer was elected "our country
washas becomeingdirtier and poorer".'After' and suddenly it becomes factually accurate.
Eat shit, couch fucker.
And "average" Americans continue not caring.
“He’s right, of course. That dirty slut he married got through.”
Isn’t that sorta what you’re saying, JD?
They don't even believe the stuff they preach. They manipulate the dumbest and laugh about it later.
Ok, if you’re not racist, then why do the people who like nazi salutes only march in support of your party?
I think the big tell is that he said something super racist in his very denial of being racist
So here is the thing. Fox News is abhorrent, its a fact. Except, Fox didnt create these monsters from thin air. In fact, Id bet it was years of probing and market research to maximize viewership that manifested their siren song.
The way I see it, fox just wants control. They have no ideology but will mask how ever the public wants to get them to listen. Once they have the right mask they start programming.
This is a long way of saying if racism wasnt just an inherent trait of being evil it could have been anything else and people like trump or vance would play along to get their way.
I'm not sure if fox is to blame here. I think a lot of it is citizens continually seeing corruption in the government. Politicians can do whatever they want and get away with it. Insider trading, tax fund laundering, everything. And people see their money get taken from them and go to absolutely nothing. NOTHING.
Fox obfuscates the corruption.....
“We’re tired of being called racist so I’m about to say something racist!”
Gonna choke on that dog whistle slobbing it so hard
They only "notice" because they're racist.
He's repeating the same shit that Tucker was saying - Tucker was saying if he or other dumbasses turned fascist, it's because the liberals made them do it.
It's just more DARVO and Murc's Law bullshit.
When Republicans behave badly, it's someone else's fault. If they get even worse, it's because some liberal told them they were behaving badly or called them an appropriate name (racist, fascist, etc.).
They remind me of dogs after you give them a bath when they have gotten really stinky (rolled in something dead, for instance) - right after their bath, they'll run all around, desperate in an attempt to get all dirty again. Republicans are the same way after someone has reprimanded them - they run all around and try to find some shit to roll in.
The country became poorer and dirtier. Poorer because your billionaire pedo friends were allowed to take everyone’s money. Dirtier because your dotard boss coaxed the deplorables into the sunlight and made himself their king.
JD Vance is speaking at a MAGA rally in my area next week.
This please send me your ideas for what I should write on a sign that will make him cry.
"Move a bit to the left. We need a clean shot." Then have a friend with a flash camera take a photo of him.
JUST A PHOTO.
"Your parents will never love you."
How about, "Stop molesting furniture JD!"
JD'S FURNITURE
molestingSUPERSTORE
Hot single couches in your area want to meet you!
"Peter Thiel doesn't actually like you, James."
or
I mean, you might throw up in your mouth a little, sure. But that's one effective way to go. I'm not even joking. Something that permanently links Vance with Trump, but as the forever lesser of the two. The Lone Ranger and Tonto. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Vance is desperate to distance himself from Trump, yet must keep Trump happy: he has to remain in Trump's orbit long enough to pick up the mantle of power when it inevitably drops. So he is walking a tightrope of old man crazy that he hopes will drop him in the president's chair, meanwhile trying to quietly leak enough inner circle info that he thinks makes him look good but also doesn't get him outed.
(If you read through that entire unlocked NY Times article, the info very clearly came from inside the Oval Office, and it leaves Vance smelling the best while throwing everyone else under the bus.)
So if you wanna make Vance cry, but with a message lowkey enough to make people think you're a sincere believer, wear a red shirt and tie him to Trump in the loudest, most worshipful and sincere way you can, any thing that convincingly says, "I will never think about you without also lovingly remembering
Daddy Pedo WarmongerTrump!""Best VP ever!" or "Thank you for supporting our President!" is also a jab, but maybe just a hair too lowkey to be obvious.
I think you aren’t wrong. I actually did read that NYT article when it came out, I think. I remember some of it anyway.
Why are all the dogs on my street howling?
Change the battery in your hearing aid; these modern whistles ain't just heard by the dogs anymore.
fucking actually wild to claim the country is getting dirtier when objective data shows the exact opposite. overall littering in America has dropped by more than 60% since the 1970s, with roadway and public trash dropping another 34% just in the last six years alone. American metro areas and highways are significantly cleaner today than they were a few decades ago. Municipal waste management, street sweeping, and public cleanup efforts have vastly improved at keeping actual trash off the ground.
All they can do is blame brown people for all of our problems. Like fuck, when was the last time a republican has talked about a coherent solution to a social or economical problem? people are dealing with actual fucking problems: high prices, housing costs, healthcare, wages, infrastructure, energy, and the cost of raising a family. And all the GOP cares about is Muslim and trans people
I just assumed he meant skin colour, not actually dirt/trash in the streets.
You know, the racist way to phrase it, which I simply assume this Republican is being in front of other Republicans(racists)
Yeah most likely he didn't mean corporations are doing less polluting
...dirtier
If a few true words are all it takes to tire him out, he clearly doesn't have the stamina for the presidency. Like his boss, Sleepy Don.
Okeedokee, tell me what exactly is getting dirtier then, as you simultaneously tell us that immigrants are the cause of all our problems? This would be a great opportunity for you to set the record straight!
No? Ok then
Mostly red states where they've rolled back state level protections against pollution. Some blue states too since the fed is allowing many companies to essentially ignore pollution regulations.
Well yeah, it’s racist and you’re grifting all of the money for yourself to line your pockets, while ignoring infrastructure and the necessity of redistribution. This explicitly targets vulnerable groups more than the White, hetero, affluent, and privileged.
This will always be the end result of capitalism. Social degeneration and alienation.
The only war is class war.
aw too bad. tire as you like, youre still racist as hell
Maybe try distancing yourself from the people who associate with you and who you pander to? Cause they certainly have no qualms about flying the Confederate flag and people on the same political spectrum cheering on. Kinda seems like a ya'll problem and not just the problem of a single individual. That's just me, though.