Parents are 100% the problem. You need to instill a sense of wonder, a willingness to learn, and some notion of a work ethic well before the kids first enter school. Like racism and misogyny, stupidity is learned.
As I like to say "little shits grow up to be big shits"
And there a lot of big shits around. One of them is president of the US.
On a brighter note my friend with kids who are about 11 years old had to explain to their kids what racism even is and that there were wars fought over skin color. The kids were very confused and said "that is just sutupid. Why would it matter what color they are ?" (This was prompted because the kids have a half black friend and someone said something about it)
But yeah. I'm not even old and I really sound like a boomer but I'm seriously scared for most kids of today, raised by an iPad programmed with malicious intent to addict them and make them worship corpos, its ingrained in them now.
Totally, it can happen (I also came from a death cult family who is now 100% maga, hardly talk to them now) but let's be honest, who people are at 13-16 is who they are their whole life 98% of the time. Even look at music taste. The large majority never listen to anything outside what they liked at 16.
I don't think it's any one group's fault. Everyone has been getting progressively more stressed - the parents, the kids, the teachers, and even administrators. Budgets are getting tighter. Teachers and school administrators are being paid less and there is more expected of them. It all contributes.
If you need someone to blame, blame the ultra wealthy. They are hoarding all of the money, propagandizing us against each other, ignoring existential threats, demanding fewer taxes, and push for longer hours for the rest of us.
Usually the ones in power are to blame for the policy/lack therefor of which leave those who are doing daily interactions with others are left to fend for themselves. We always need to direct our malcontent and constructive urge to promote change towards those who hold actual power!
My thoughts: kids aren't bored enough anymore to care about learning anything. Even poor kids now seem to have endless access to the internet and social media. They are used to life in 15second or less clips and statements. They don't need to know anything other than how to Google or AI and answer and therefore don't know when they are getting a fabricated answer. It's kind of like the kids that only eat crap food and weigh 300lbs in elementary school. Their choices might be horrible but adults made those the choices available to them. I have a nephew who want to learn cursive but his parents are against it because 'neither of them have good handwriting'. Under 30s are in a bad time for learning but they aren't the ones responsible for it. The billionaires want uneducated serfs.
I don't think it's that, kids are just bored. The education system is rudimentary and outdated and boring; I learned pretty much everything through self study. School was never useful for me. Cursive is pretty useless as well; I wish I was just taught to write in Japanese. I don't think uneducated people is what anyone wants either, complacent and compliant people is what is sought after. I don't think anyone is looking for a woopsies, that 200k machine broke, or the fire suppression system turned on, etc. Oh yeah, I worked in education, I tried to make a change and failed.
I have watched a 26 year old open tiktok, click on search bar, and type "java hello world" once, so it's definetely not a kids-exclusive thing either. People actively shy away from even static text recently.
"Which of the following is not an insect" - the difficulty of this question largely hinges on what the options are. Is the non-insect something obvious like a bat, or something you have to actively read about to know, like a spider?
I see plenty of students who are quite capable, but then I also seen students who are in classes like calculus, but should probably be in Algebra I. Granted, the students unusually see as from quite privalaged backgrounds and I don't see how they do handwritten sentences.
I was taught to never begin a sentence with a numerically-formatted number, so both comments visible in the screenshot get docked points from me. While it is not technically incorrect, it is unprofessional.
I also was 'gifted', reading and writing at a college level by the fifth grade, and didn't learn anything new through and including graduating from high-school. My peers, though? Another 7 years, and most didn't absorb much else, playing catch-up.
Though I am absolutely against homework and studying at home. Usually you would think that those who dedicate time at home to studying will achieve higher grades, and to a limited extent that is correct, but it's more like an edge case than the norm. The classroom setting, while dreadful, does seem to help with information retention - at least in my experience. Beyond that, it falls off a cliff.
my elementary schooler hasnt brought home homework in a couple years, i hope this is a trend. in kindergarten they were sending them home with "solve for X" math homework and they were soooo frustrated.
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As always, to be clear, I'm not blaming teachers. It's admin and above forcing teachers to pass students and tying their hands.
Parents are 100% the problem. You need to instill a sense of wonder, a willingness to learn, and some notion of a work ethic well before the kids first enter school. Like racism and misogyny, stupidity is learned.
As I like to say "little shits grow up to be big shits"
And there a lot of big shits around. One of them is president of the US.
On a brighter note my friend with kids who are about 11 years old had to explain to their kids what racism even is and that there were wars fought over skin color. The kids were very confused and said "that is just sutupid. Why would it matter what color they are ?" (This was prompted because the kids have a half black friend and someone said something about it)
But yeah. I'm not even old and I really sound like a boomer but I'm seriously scared for most kids of today, raised by an iPad programmed with malicious intent to addict them and make them worship corpos, its ingrained in them now.
I don't know man, I've done a whole 180 from who I was raised to be. Give the kids a chance.
Totally, it can happen (I also came from a death cult family who is now 100% maga, hardly talk to them now) but let's be honest, who people are at 13-16 is who they are their whole life 98% of the time. Even look at music taste. The large majority never listen to anything outside what they liked at 16.
us society is the problem
parents as an issue are largely tied to income
This is not a us-only problem.
TikTok brain rotted kids with an attention span of 20 seconds is a worldwide problem.
Classes having a low bar for passing, so basically every student passes happens in many countries.
Parents doing the opposite of helping the education system happens in many countries.
Income, overtime, 2nd jobs...
yep, burnout
I don't think it's any one group's fault. Everyone has been getting progressively more stressed - the parents, the kids, the teachers, and even administrators. Budgets are getting tighter. Teachers and school administrators are being paid less and there is more expected of them. It all contributes.
If you need someone to blame, blame the ultra wealthy. They are hoarding all of the money, propagandizing us against each other, ignoring existential threats, demanding fewer taxes, and push for longer hours for the rest of us.
Usually the ones in power are to blame for the policy/lack therefor of which leave those who are doing daily interactions with others are left to fend for themselves. We always need to direct our malcontent and constructive urge to promote change towards those who hold actual power!
This is a massive education crisis to put it lightly
Universal and Well-funded public education is needed now more than ever
My thoughts: kids aren't bored enough anymore to care about learning anything. Even poor kids now seem to have endless access to the internet and social media. They are used to life in 15second or less clips and statements. They don't need to know anything other than how to Google or AI and answer and therefore don't know when they are getting a fabricated answer. It's kind of like the kids that only eat crap food and weigh 300lbs in elementary school. Their choices might be horrible but adults made those the choices available to them. I have a nephew who want to learn cursive but his parents are against it because 'neither of them have good handwriting'. Under 30s are in a bad time for learning but they aren't the ones responsible for it. The billionaires want uneducated serfs.
I don't think it's that, kids are just bored. The education system is rudimentary and outdated and boring; I learned pretty much everything through self study. School was never useful for me. Cursive is pretty useless as well; I wish I was just taught to write in Japanese. I don't think uneducated people is what anyone wants either, complacent and compliant people is what is sought after. I don't think anyone is looking for a woopsies, that 200k machine broke, or the fire suppression system turned on, etc. Oh yeah, I worked in education, I tried to make a change and failed.
I have watched a 26 year old open tiktok, click on search bar, and type "java hello world" once, so it's definetely not a kids-exclusive thing either. People actively shy away from even static text recently.
"Which of the following is not an insect" - the difficulty of this question largely hinges on what the options are. Is the non-insect something obvious like a bat, or something you have to actively read about to know, like a spider?
Considering the nature of the other example question, though, I suspect the choices were not all THAT difficult…
"I think they know capable workers aren't coming"
And I think they designed it to be this way. They've been setting up a genocide of the "others" for 100 years now
I see plenty of students who are quite capable, but then I also seen students who are in classes like calculus, but should probably be in Algebra I. Granted, the students unusually see as from quite privalaged backgrounds and I don't see how they do handwritten sentences.
I'm thinking the '15 year teacher' doesn't write many sentences either. #commaSplice
Especially in response to the other commenter who I guess, is 31 year old AND a teacher. I assume the second one is not 15 years old and a teacher.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Every time I am reminded of Three Cuing, I am filled with rage.
I was taught to never begin a sentence with a numerically-formatted number, so both comments visible in the screenshot get docked points from me. While it is not technically incorrect, it is unprofessional.
I also was 'gifted', reading and writing at a college level by the fifth grade, and didn't learn anything new through and including graduating from high-school. My peers, though? Another 7 years, and most didn't absorb much else, playing catch-up.
Though I am absolutely against homework and studying at home. Usually you would think that those who dedicate time at home to studying will achieve higher grades, and to a limited extent that is correct, but it's more like an edge case than the norm. The classroom setting, while dreadful, does seem to help with information retention - at least in my experience. Beyond that, it falls off a cliff.
Unprofessional posts? In Reddit? Goodness gracious! What's the world coming to?
:p
But not to avoid splitting an infinitive? :P
What is this, a language where the infinitive is actually just one word? Our infinitives are already split, look around you.
my elementary schooler hasnt brought home homework in a couple years, i hope this is a trend. in kindergarten they were sending them home with "solve for X" math homework and they were soooo frustrated.