Most Dangerous Jobs
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If a policeman ever tells you to get out of your car during a traffic stop, you have to comply based on a ruling from Pennsylvania vs Mimms that they can remove you from your car if they have reason to believe you're dangerous and want to be able to see you at all times for officer safety.
So whenever you get asked to step out of the car, make sure you say, "I know you're scared." They love that!.
Haha, "don't be scared little man."
People at gas stations are at more danger then police.
I've had at least three jobs that are always listed as more dangerous than a cop, but I've never gone around demanding respect because "I risk my life with every shift."
How risky is a cop's job, really? They have the full force of the entire government on their side, and an arsenal on their waist, and an even bigger arsenal in their vehicle. With a quick click on the radio, and they have a nearly unlimited army who will come to their aid, all armed to the teeth as well, and willing to back any cockamamie story he tells.
You kinda answer your own question; those are the exact reasons why it's not that dangerous these days.
That aside, nobody backing you up can teleporter, so cops act like they're on their own until backup arrives - because they are.
Seriously?
This combines fixed wing and helicopters, Look up the stats on remote bush pilots and helicopter pilots it makes a lot more sense
Fail to land correctly a commercial plane. Either:
Fortunately landing a plane is only done by the most trained experts.
Flying the plane is statistically safest way of travel. Dying as a pilot is far less likely than dying in car accident. Even if you count all the passangers, flying is still safer than driving a car.
I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Yeah being a cop is dangerous but not like being a pizza delivery guy dangerous
In large part because pizza deliverers aren't allowed to carry a gun and trained to fight off attackers.
The station master/signalmen/signallers 💀
Maybe loggers just need a service pistol.
Or military grade axes 🤷🏻
Sadly, falling trees are neither deterred by nor stopped with a gun, as opposed to people who attack cops.
I don’t think anyone thinks Police Officer is the most dangerous job - even cops.
they use that as the excuse to get away with killing people who are no threat to them.
Which one said it was the most dangerous job?
police officers, the ones depicted as the show boat in 15th+ place in the meme.
when ever a five year old black kid is mag dumped on, it’s always the same excuse, he may not have a gun, but the police have uniquely dangerous jobs, and their protection is elevated over those they serve, and we can only judge them by there own mindset of the risks, and not the facts of the situation.
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Just write "I made it up" next time; it'll save time.
i don’t see the guy biting the medal and shooting champaign everywhere in the meme saying he got first place. and yet he is acting like he has special privilege. police are given unholy latitude for wanton murder based on their perceived danger, and not their actual danger. literally used as a defense against even just indictment for murder. Nurses don’t get special murder privileges. and the only reason they are even that high is because of their own stupidity regarding road safety. though no one claimed they were very bright either
You're moving the goal posts to a new, pedantic position, but fair enough:
Who's the woman in the meme declaring it's the most dangerous job? I see you struggle with basic English so maybe you missed the "MOST DANGEROUS JOB(S)" on the top and bottom.
Nurses act under the authority of doctors, who do get special murder privileges. Medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the United States, killing around 250,000 people per year, according to a Johns Hopkins study.
But before you say "any time doctors kill someone it's by mistake, but any time cops kill someone it's murder," I hope you chew on that bias for a minute, and then I hope you discover that medical malpractice deaths follow the same racial bias trends that law enforcement killings do.
In other words: Yes, they do get special privileges to murder people.
an embarrassing deflection.
first, your comparison with doctors is a false equivalency, and includes everything from medication defects, and insurance related posturing. second doctors face exorbitantly high malpractice suits. and yet still face jail for negligent murder. police do not with out riots and world wide protests. no other profession gets the protection of specialized legal doctrines and unions who organize the blue flu.
you then declare that because the medical system has a racial bias that police get to have special murder privilege. and yet forgot to tie that privilege to a need, so doctors get to murder minorities, so police should get to as well! OPPS!
… enforcement by necessity get a monopoly on violence, except it’s abundantly clear that the police can not be trusted with that power, ESPECIALLY with out actual oversite. with great power comes great responsibility, not a shield from it.
Saturation divers is pretty high too.
IIRC, automobile accidents are the number one cause of death for on duty police deaths. Oftentimes their own fault not following policy during pursuits.
‘Not following policy’ means they don’t wear their seatbelts. Cops are so fucking stupid.
Yeah safety last, no PPE for me toxic masculinity.
I remember huge pushback from officers when ballistic vests were first introduced. I was in a police science class and instructors had so many reasons; too hot, too heavy so can't chase down perps, will impede quickly exiting vehicle (same with seat belts), will give officers false sense of security and are more dangerous. Saw the same in media countrywide.
It was neck-and-neck with gun deaths, one outpacing the other and then swapping places, until CoViD.
What makes you say that?
Reading news articles and following links to research cited
It's a shame you can't bring yourself to share them with the class.
What percent of gun deaths involved painting the ceiling? Real shame is how many police stigmatize getting help with mental health.
Holy Red Herring, Batman!
No, you brought up gun deaths
I can't tell if you're confused or intentionally arguing in bad faith, but I don't think I can fix either.
Best of luck to you.
Or doing the pursuits at all, for that matter.
In a society where the government is surveiling every other person and have cameras everywhere, the old "if we don't get our perp now he's gone forever" trope is bullshit.
As much as they make for entertaining TV and make cops feel all macho and accomplished, car chases are COMPLETELY unnecessary reckless endangerment in almost all cases.
From what I understand most police agencies have a no-pursuit policy. It's generally more hazardous to chase the person than it is to just phone ahead in the direction that the person's driving and have a blockade setup or just show up at their house
Generally illegal as of 1989's Bowyer v. Inyo and impractical regardless; you vastly overestimate how many patrol cars are in a given area.
Assuming the driver is the registered owner, their address is up to date, and they change their mind about fleeing. I guess now that Flock is getting popular that's increasingly less of a problem, though.
Most agencies these days have incredibly restrictive pursuit policies for this reason.
In other words, your message is apt for 2000 or so, but not 2026.
You'd think it's from dangerous assignment-based activities but it's not. It's from doing stupid shit in traffic stops and getting hit by innocent drivers. It's what happens when superficial authority meets 3 tons of metal at a mile a minute.
They initiate traffic stops based on infractions that had no impact on safety at all, like rolling through a stop sign at an intersection with no other cars, and cause a far more dangerous situation with a roadside stop.
This came up in a brilliant way in a manga I was reading.
Two combat pros are facing off in a back alley, the aggressor trying to “test” their victim. The loser protagonist, who’s useless in a fight, hears the altercation from his store job, and rushes out to help his friend. He throws a paint bomb, used by stores to identify robbers, at the assailant.
The assailant runs, and spends the rest of the issue in a panic about how to conceal the paint; since they’d very much been relying on the option of being able to sneak out through crowds.
less pronouns, more well-defined references please. I had to read that last paragraph three times before I understood who you meant by "They".
Thanks for the feedback. Been working on creative writing recently, and it helps to know when my attempts at brevity are making things unclear.
You're welcome, "the assailant" is much more clear now :) (I mean - as clear as it could be)
...So Flock cams need laser projectors, and they can just mark criminals with a big red X as they drive around. Maybe a different color for whatever they're wanted for. And then let the vigilanteism fly!
Imagine if other professions were allowed to use the logic police can in court.
"Your honor, I acknowledge that I did run over that entire kindergarten class with my big rig, but if I had swerved there would have been a slightly elevated risk of me rolling over and crashing, so I had to. Truck driver safety has to come first, after all."
"Well, since no court has ruled that this exact situation is a violation of anyone's rights, you are legally immune!"
What the hell are "garage men"? 😆
MC Grindah is a prime example of a garage man
The people who go around in big trucks to collect the garbage. Also known as garbage collectors, bin men, sanitation workers, etc.
No, them's 'garbage men'. I assume garage men are just mechanics.
Garage men are similar, but they collect people’s unused garages each week. The trucks are VERY large.
Have you tried "US Presidents"? With a 10% chance of getting assassinated on the job?
Those are amateur numbers. Trump will raise them
I think Trump might win the award for the most assassinated US President.
They were all staged attempts, though.
The country that gave us the NRA can't shoot straight? Surely not.
Delivery workers should be in there too.
Uhh, isn’t the presidency marked by the highest mortality rate amongst professions in the US?
Can't really compare a position that only 45 people have had over a 250 year period with regular jobs, though.
Besides, the last time a president died in office, my boomer dad was 12 years old. The last time a logfighter died on the job was probably some time this month if not this week.
I think it might be a typo, but I’m absolutely referring to lumberjacks as “log fighters” from now on.
Nah, I did that shit on purpose, inspired by this comment on gender neutral job titles on the original post from [email protected] 😁
I genuinely have no idea why someone would downvote source information like this.
Could be bots or misclicks. I accidentally downvoted a comment just a few hours ago. It felt surprisingly bad even though I quickly fixed it.
2 misclicks? That seems unlikely. And the accounts aren’t bots, I checked that. One commented in this comment section and seems human, with a year+ old account. The other is active elsewhere. I dunno. It’s probably not worth considering the deficiencies of silly people.
Some people are just joyless husks, I guess 🤷🏻
wtf are pilots doing on that list? it has to be one of the safest professions, unless you count military ones and even then i am not sure it applies.
garbage men? are they fighting radioactive mutated rats, or what? fishermen? do they get drunk, fall into water and die, or what? truckers? what? why?
this comics is garbage.
Just because something is outside of your personal knowledge or experience doesn't mean it's wrong. You have access to the internet with plenty of information available on these topics. Strange to just assume the information is entirely incorrect without bothering to look into it.
Here is a random article that comes up and links to a full database on the topic: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/03/02/most-dangerous-jobs-america-database/11264064002/
You can certainly argue with data collection and such, but most related lists are pretty similar.
Pilot surprised me as well. Thank you for the link. Here is the pilot section:
Oh it includes helicopter pilots, suddenly I'm not neatly as surprised
Yeah when i first heard "pilot" i thought exclusively of airline pilots. But if you include all pilots it makes sense.
so, lets have some arbitrarily chosen group and then generalize the findings on some other group to make a headline. that's how you do the tabloid, kids.
just because you saw cool picture on the internet does not mean you have personal knowledge. i actually do have some knowledge, which is why i reacted.
in 2025, there were 300056 (three hundred thousand) pilots with either cpl or atpl - these are pilots legally allowed to accept reward for piloting a plane.
so it would seem that the tabloid story in usa today drawing some conclusion out of 37k "workers" - roughly 8 times smaller number, has very loose connection to reality.
I openly said you can take issue with the data collection, but the link makes clear they're talking about specific commercial pilots. My understanding is that the cpl and atpl do not expire. I have no idea how many of those people are in the workforce anymore, or in aviation at all, much less the specific segment in question.
Even if you took that stat and spread it over all of aviation it'd still be more than cops, but just for fun here's an article using data from the bureau of labor and statistics. They happen to link pilots with flight engineers, but the pattern still holds: https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-police-officers-die-in-the-line-of-duty/
You can disagree with whatever data collection or collation you want, but acting like the meme is misleading seems disingenuous, especially when you consider the brevity of the format.
thank you for your permission. my issue is more with studying small subset of the data carefully chosen to support your theory and then presenting it as if it applied to the whole group.
the link makes it anything but clear. it ultimately admits that the sample is manipulated, but doesn't say how and why.
it would be more than "no data"? 😂
https://hostux.pics/images/2026/08/25/Screenshot-from-2026-08-25-14-27-0984d2800ddf65be81.png
one number manipulated, one non-existent, but the conclusion is one is bigger than the other?
the "meme" is tabloid trash. brevity of the format is not an excuse, no one forced the author to present misleading data.
10800 forestry workers in the us in 2024: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/farming-fishing-and-forestry/forest-and-conservation-workers.htm 53 deaths (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cfoi.t03.htm) = a death rate of about .5%, 1 in 200.
826,800 police workers in the us in 2024: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/protective-service/police-and-detectives.htm
132 deaths (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cfoi.t03.htm) = a death rate of about .02%, less than 1 in 2,000.
Edit math and spelling, but check for yourself. Still the difference in magnitude is obvious and always has been.
Only guess on pilots is heat attack.
But Truckers? Come on that's a pretty easy one to figure out. Traffic deaths are probably the majority (most cop deaths are traffic deaths, not getting shot). Truckers also work around large moving trucks, and forklifts that have a massive solid steel counterweight on the back that will not notice when is grinds your pelvis into hamburger against the nearest warehouse column or concrete loading dock.
Garbage men also spend a lot of time on the road(traffic deaths) and are constantly working around equipment that also won't notice, even a little bit, when they tear off a limb or crush a whole body.
Don't be an ass, try thinking sometime.
yeah, it is pretty easy to speculate. verifying that speculation is another story, and "funny" image comparing manipulated data to non-existent ones is not the best way to do it.
same to you.
Pilots are actually way more likely to die then you think. You're just thinking of commercial airlines. But the smaller planes go down a lot more often.
small planes go down often. that is because these are hobby pilots who don't have enough training, practice, and oversight. but we are talking about JOBS here and professional pilots are one of the best trained, constantly retrained and scrutinized groups in the world.
There are a ton of JOBS involving those little tiny planes.
yes, ton of jobs involve small plane. but when there is an accident of small plane, it is usually the hobby pilot for the reasons stated.
sure, there are some bush pilots in america, but the data in that usa today article make no sense. they compare some deaths to a sample of 37k pilots. there are about 300k holders of cpl or atpl in usa. i don't trust that article at all, it is tabloid bullshit.
I have no idea what USA Today article you're talking about. Or why you continue to just spout nonsense. There's tons of crashes involving things from tours to surveys to crop dusting to flight instructors, that's way more common you might think, even small transport. Pilot death is very high compared to other jobs. This is an incontrovertible fact.
i am talking about the article that was linked in this thread as the source of the data.
of course it is, darling. hey, there is johny and jimmy, both are pilots and jimmy died last year. the mortality among pilots skyrocketed into 50%!
I don't see any article linked by op and I don't see any article linked by you so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you're having a conversation with a different individual who linked an article then talk about it with them. If you want to talk about with me then you should link it yourself.
The second half your comment is so brain dead I'm not even going to dignify it with a response.