I don't know much about Japanese work or family culture, but.... Why does everybody hate you, including your wife AND kids? Either you're a giant piece of shit, or everybody else is.
No work to do, no upward mobility, no future opportunities
Collect a steady paycheck every two weeks. Feels-Good-Man.jpg
New PM takes office. Goes full MAGA nationalist. Picks trade wars. Starts fights with neighbors. Alienates people inside our own sphere of influence even.
Oh shit, bros. Looks like its another All-Ramen month again.
Her party (the LDP) has been in power (except for like 4 years) for 6 decades straight. Turns out classic liberals (ie conservatives) don't have any answers when things start going to shit.
I just looked it up and 26 out of the nation's 28 presidents have all been LDP. They have dominated since 1955.
In other words, Japan has also seen tremendous growth under the LDP. So it seems a bit reductionist to judge the party based on the performance of the past 10 years.
They can but it's unusual. They have an honor system and expect people to quit. They'll go as far as sticking people in a room with nothing to do and not able to sleep until they give up, essentially adult time out.
Interviewed for a job there. They asked how long I would want to work for them. Told them I'd absolutely love to work for them as long as they can host my visa, and I'd love to even become a citizen.
That... Was not the right answer.
The interview was over from them on.
I still do not know what I said wrong. They don't allow remote work so... Do they want me to become an illegal just to work for them?
I don't know the full story, but that is apparently somewhat true. That's why you'll hear in games and manga that someone in a fairly auspicious position will get punished by cleaning toilets or something.
Yeah, no, when someone’s secluded, they’re often put in an empty room without so much as a window, and given literally nothing to do, but sit there. Can’t even have a phone out. It’d drive me mad enough to quit, and the same is true of lots of people.
Not legal in countries where you cant outright fire people. You have to get them tasks. No phone out wouldnt be enforceable unless they sit you in a bunker with no connection.
Is it? It's your boss' duty to provide you with work and they cannot dock your pay (outside of special circumstances) if they don't have work for you, but they can absolutely pay you to sit around and drink coffee in case work comes around.
People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly
Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA
I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.
Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.
All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.
On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.
Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.
No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.
Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway.
Nope. The same happened In Austria with our ex-state owned telecommunication business; because it was state owned before privatization, they had quite a lot of nearly unfireable workers outside of extreme circumstances - state businesses often used "pragmatization" to secure people they thought weren't replaceable and to provide those people with security with a bit of a lower pay grade (at least it started that way - later on this system was ripe with corruption, using "pragmatization" as a bonus for people who were loyal to whomever).
Those workers often had pretty high salaries in comparison to the newly arriving employees, accumulating pay raises for the last 20-30 years. And they didn't want to leave their jobs, because many knew that their skillset was severely outdated and they would struggle to get another job at 50 years of age. The new owners had no use for them because they simply were too expensive and the large amount of unfireable personell dragged stock prices down.
So these workers had to come in every workday, just to sit in an nearly empty room for 8 hours - no work, no entertainment, nothing. Even the most lethargic person gets depression, anxiety and desperation after a few years of that. If you stopped coming in, they actually had leverage to get rid of you. If you called in sick, i heard of quite a lot of cases where they tried to make sure that they really were sick, because if not, it would be a fireable offense.
One of my uncles was one of the people just sitting in the "Pool", as it was called. He was NOT happy, but he was one of the few people who actually still had some useful skills even in a modernized telecom company (there's always need for people who are able and willing to competently work on phone lines high up on poles, and at that time nearly every phone line was copper cabling, VoIP was just starting to spread), and later on was able to at least get assigned some normal work, but most people who were sitting in the "pool" surrendered sooner or later when getting offered a golden handshake.
There are things like this in the USA, too, usually for people who have contracts that make them unfirable, but still fuck up something huge at work. Most famous example is probably the NYC Dep't of Education "Rubber Rooms" that they euphemistically call "Reassignment Centers."
fake: anon has a wife
gay: anon is punished by his boss and likes it, which is clearly a euphemism for the forbidden but very kinky relationship between anon and his boss
The entire not leaving until your boss leaves (who also must leave after her boss leaves) leads to a chain where only the CEO gets off first, leading to the really toxic 14 hour days. At least layoffs don't seem to be as prevalent there.
From my limited knowledge Japanese CEO's at least take personal responsibility when the company does wrong. Not that that actually changes anything lol.
They're also paid a lot less than American CEO's. Like ten- or hundred-fold less, if I recall correctly. Japanese work culture is fucked up but a portion of its negativity seems to be self-enforced. As opposed to American work culture, which is just largely totalitarian
WHY IS NOBODY CREATING MORE MEAT FOR THE MACHINE!?!?!?
Politicians unable to get people to make fuck trophies because they can't afford crap, have to slave away until they're 70, return to a shoe box as a home, breathe polluted air from birth to death, and survive a burning planet.
No idea why people don't want to pump out more than 2.1 units per woman. It's a total mystery!
My entire message is filled with hyperbole and you go "all the other stuff is fine, but I draw the line at 'fuck trophy'". You're the type of person who will break up a peaceful demonstration because somebody wore the wrong clothes that day.
No idea why people don’t want to pump out more than 2.1 units per woman.
People living in significantly worse conditions have historically produced significantly more children.
But the modern post-industrial lifestyle discourages people from having children primarily because of easy access to birth control. That means you can fuck without risk of having babies. For young people, this is a no-brainer. Condom use, UIDs, and hormonal birth control have tanked teenage/early-20s birth rates everywhere it has been introduced. Combine this with good health care, globally, and many people no longer fear they will lose half their children to some infant malady or childhood accident. Low Child Mortality -> Lower Propensity to Have Kids.
If you want higher rates of reproduction in your population, you need younger people having babies. And you need more people convinced that the kids they do have won't live to see adulthood.
Say what you will about the current Trump government, but we're definitely moving in those directions.
Right-wing bullshit propaganda. Freedumb of screech for beta males who can't recognise they're being controlled by wealthy, Christian nationalists, but freedom of choice for women is a problem.
The earlier women have kids, the greater the chance they will not have a degree, be successful earlier in their carrier and the greater risk of being controlled, and that's exactly your goal. You and your kind just want obedient, subservient women who don't talk back and suck your tiny stinky peckers when you need it.
Keep your pedophile hands away from the kids. Grow a modicum of self-respect to stop bending over backwards to suck Epstein class dick and spreading their filthy propaganda.
Fucken hell, its not right wing to want a birth rate above replacement. I swear you people are hell bent on occupying the most unpopular positions of all time.
The only thing I've seen of ‘Star Wars’ is ‘Attack of the Clones’, but I was thinking of watching the new trilogy sometime. Are you saying it's not worth it?
To be quite honest, I didn't even bother watching them. But everything I have seen and heard about them convinced me that I made the right choice with it.
But then again, that's just the opinion of an old grumbler. If you want to watch them and like them go ahead.
Episode 8 is the best Star Wars movie out of all 9 of them. You will see the truth once they drop the next 3 movies. That is because you suffer your own confirmation bias and self fulfilling prophecy.
And Andor. Then I could take the bare plot details of the prequels. And Clone Wars is good too. Nice well rounded experience with that, and forget the rest.
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I don't know much about Japanese work or family culture, but.... Why does everybody hate you, including your wife AND kids? Either you're a giant piece of shit, or everybody else is.
I assumed it was the typical boomer "my family hates me" dynamic, a.k.a OP is indeed a shit
Be Japanese
Have dead-end job in back of office
No work to do, no upward mobility, no future opportunities
Collect a steady paycheck every two weeks. Feels-Good-Man.jpg
New PM takes office. Goes full MAGA nationalist. Picks trade wars. Starts fights with neighbors. Alienates people inside our own sphere of influence even.
Oh shit, bros. Looks like its another All-Ramen month again.
The new PM started on Oct 2025, clearly according to the graph the economy was already bad by then
The Liberal Democrats have been in charge since 2012.
So in your comment why did you call out just the new PM? And the LDP has dominated since 1955, so Japan did quite well under them too, for many years.
Her party (the LDP) has been in power (except for like 4 years) for 6 decades straight. Turns out classic liberals (ie conservatives) don't have any answers when things start going to shit.
I just looked it up and 26 out of the nation's 28 presidents have all been LDP. They have dominated since 1955.
In other words, Japan has also seen tremendous growth under the LDP. So it seems a bit reductionist to judge the party based on the performance of the past 10 years.
Japan has had a "Lost Decade" of economic stagnation since the 1990s.
But that exact thing happened in USAmerica when they did it? Who could've predicted this result!?!?
I read the whole thing as a psyop from Russia and China. How to break up NATO? Get its members to disrespect each other
And not the Ramen Shop kind
I wonder if that balances out with the tariffs. Maybe I could start buying stuff from there again.
well obviously this is not real
They can but it's unusual. They have an honor system and expect people to quit. They'll go as far as sticking people in a room with nothing to do and not able to sleep until they give up, essentially adult time out.
They expect to own you until the day you die.
Interviewed for a job there. They asked how long I would want to work for them. Told them I'd absolutely love to work for them as long as they can host my visa, and I'd love to even become a citizen.
That... Was not the right answer.
The interview was over from them on.
I still do not know what I said wrong. They don't allow remote work so... Do they want me to become an illegal just to work for them?
Probably the visa aspect. Japan is like famously racist and xenophobic.
I'm so at my wits end with hiring managers that I would just email "okay so what was the right answer??"
I don't know the full story, but that is apparently somewhat true. That's why you'll hear in games and manga that someone in a fairly auspicious position will get punished by cleaning toilets or something.
I see. That's incredibly based then?
Yeah, no, when someone’s secluded, they’re often put in an empty room without so much as a window, and given literally nothing to do, but sit there. Can’t even have a phone out. It’d drive me mad enough to quit, and the same is true of lots of people.
This would be considered power harassment in Japan and you can sue for it. Companies try to do it anyways though.
This is the story of a man named Stanley...
imaginary friend game weak
So you're saying it works.
Not legal in countries where you cant outright fire people. You have to get them tasks. No phone out wouldnt be enforceable unless they sit you in a bunker with no connection.
Is it? It's your boss' duty to provide you with work and they cannot dock your pay (outside of special circumstances) if they don't have work for you, but they can absolutely pay you to sit around and drink coffee in case work comes around.
I believe what they're saying is you can't use work assignment to pressure someone to quit as a way around labor protections.
As with a lot of legal stuff, the intent matters.
It being illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.
Take the company to court and get a fat payout 🤷
People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly
Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A
I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.
Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.
My bad
All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.
On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.
Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.
That's crazy
And then never get hired by any company again.
Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic.
No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.
Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway.
Taking them to court is also realistic.
In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem.
Your task is to hand write copies of the company slogan for every working hour.
How is using apostrophes so hard that you just ignore it?
you can't reassign them to paint watching?
In Japan, thats the whole point. The business will do this to make you quit instead of them firing you. They have whack employment laws.
Sounds good in a way because you can take as long as you like applying for other jobs without losing your current income.
Often comes with a job title change and people notice those sorts of things in Japan.
Aren't they given a computer at least to "work" on
Nope. The same happened In Austria with our ex-state owned telecommunication business; because it was state owned before privatization, they had quite a lot of nearly unfireable workers outside of extreme circumstances - state businesses often used "pragmatization" to secure people they thought weren't replaceable and to provide those people with security with a bit of a lower pay grade (at least it started that way - later on this system was ripe with corruption, using "pragmatization" as a bonus for people who were loyal to whomever).
Those workers often had pretty high salaries in comparison to the newly arriving employees, accumulating pay raises for the last 20-30 years. And they didn't want to leave their jobs, because many knew that their skillset was severely outdated and they would struggle to get another job at 50 years of age. The new owners had no use for them because they simply were too expensive and the large amount of unfireable personell dragged stock prices down.
So these workers had to come in every workday, just to sit in an nearly empty room for 8 hours - no work, no entertainment, nothing. Even the most lethargic person gets depression, anxiety and desperation after a few years of that. If you stopped coming in, they actually had leverage to get rid of you. If you called in sick, i heard of quite a lot of cases where they tried to make sure that they really were sick, because if not, it would be a fireable offense.
One of my uncles was one of the people just sitting in the "Pool", as it was called. He was NOT happy, but he was one of the few people who actually still had some useful skills even in a modernized telecom company (there's always need for people who are able and willing to competently work on phone lines high up on poles, and at that time nearly every phone line was copper cabling, VoIP was just starting to spread), and later on was able to at least get assigned some normal work, but most people who were sitting in the "pool" surrendered sooner or later when getting offered a golden handshake.
There are things like this in the USA, too, usually for people who have contracts that make them unfirable, but still fuck up something huge at work. Most famous example is probably the NYC Dep't of Education "Rubber Rooms" that they euphemistically call "Reassignment Centers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reassignment_center
In the land of Hitler, I'm not surprised.
fake: anon has a wife
gay: anon is punished by his boss and likes it, which is clearly a euphemism for the forbidden but very kinky relationship between anon and his boss
The entire not leaving until your boss leaves (who also must leave after her boss leaves) leads to a chain where only the CEO gets off first, leading to the really toxic 14 hour days. At least layoffs don't seem to be as prevalent there.
CEOs work in Japan?
From my limited knowledge Japanese CEO's at least take personal responsibility when the company does wrong. Not that that actually changes anything lol.
They're also paid a lot less than American CEO's. Like ten- or hundred-fold less, if I recall correctly. Japanese work culture is fucked up but a portion of its negativity seems to be self-enforced. As opposed to American work culture, which is just largely totalitarian
Hey, customer relations in brothels is hard work!
Politicians unable to get people to make fuck trophies because they can't afford crap, have to slave away until they're 70, return to a shoe box as a home, breathe polluted air from birth to death, and survive a burning planet.
No idea why people don't want to pump out more than 2.1 units per woman. It's a total mystery!
I agree with you but people who call other humans fuck trophies or crotch goblins are usually just the fucking worst most insufferable people ever.
My entire message is filled with hyperbole and you go "all the other stuff is fine, but I draw the line at 'fuck trophy'". You're the type of person who will break up a peaceful demonstration because somebody wore the wrong clothes that day.
The enemy of good, the friend of perfect.
holy straw man.
You don't think I should call human children fuck trophy's? You must be pro police brutality.
Jfc I clocked you perfectly it seems.
Sure you did. What are you, a cop that pulls over minorities by "clocking" them by instinct? GTFO
People living in significantly worse conditions have historically produced significantly more children.
But the modern post-industrial lifestyle discourages people from having children primarily because of easy access to birth control. That means you can fuck without risk of having babies. For young people, this is a no-brainer. Condom use, UIDs, and hormonal birth control have tanked teenage/early-20s birth rates everywhere it has been introduced. Combine this with good health care, globally, and many people no longer fear they will lose half their children to some infant malady or childhood accident. Low Child Mortality -> Lower Propensity to Have Kids.
If you want higher rates of reproduction in your population, you need younger people having babies. And you need more people convinced that the kids they do have won't live to see adulthood.
Say what you will about the current Trump government, but we're definitely moving in those directions.
Right-wing bullshit propaganda. Freedumb of screech for beta males who can't recognise they're being controlled by wealthy, Christian nationalists, but freedom of choice for women is a problem.
The earlier women have kids, the greater the chance they will not have a degree, be successful earlier in their carrier and the greater risk of being controlled, and that's exactly your goal. You and your kind just want obedient, subservient women who don't talk back and suck your tiny stinky peckers when you need it.
Keep your pedophile hands away from the kids. Grow a modicum of self-respect to stop bending over backwards to suck Epstein class dick and spreading their filthy propaganda.
Fucken hell, its not right wing to want a birth rate above replacement. I swear you people are hell bent on occupying the most unpopular positions of all time.
LMAO. yes, you pedophiles are occupying the most popular opinions of all time "fuck the kids (literally) and take away their contraception, mkay"
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Sounds fucking amazing compared to my life
Yeah, you can't unsee Star Wars: The Phantom Menace
The sequel trilogy did a lot of work to make the prequels more bearable.
The prequels would have been a collective masterpiece if Lucas followed through with Darth jar jar.
TRUTH.
It's not that the prequel trilogy somehow got better, it's just that it no longer is the worst trilogy.
The only thing I've seen of ‘Star Wars’ is ‘Attack of the Clones’, but I was thinking of watching the new trilogy sometime. Are you saying it's not worth it?
IMO they're all skippable except for the original trilogy of A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and the Star Wars Holiday Special.
To be quite honest, I didn't even bother watching them. But everything I have seen and heard about them convinced me that I made the right choice with it.
But then again, that's just the opinion of an old grumbler. If you want to watch them and like them go ahead.
I've also been recommended something called ‘Holiday Special’, they say it's an item of particular interest.
Episode 8 is the best Star Wars movie out of all 9 of them. You will see the truth once they drop the next 3 movies. That is because you suffer your own confirmation bias and self fulfilling prophecy.
How dare you
They hated me because I told them the truth.
The wife and I are about to watch the first 6 movies for the first time together. Both of us have only ever seen the first half of episode 3
I think you mean 3 movies, right? Because that's how many Star Wars movies exist. There are 3 movies.
Rogue One is pretty good.
And Andor. Then I could take the bare plot details of the prequels. And Clone Wars is good too. Nice well rounded experience with that, and forget the rest.
Bit of an odd choice to cut it off at ‘Revenge of the Sith’.
Buckle up buckaroo
This is about to be pod racing!
But what about your dreams anon 😫