I just wanted to know how bad Lead really is and end up here
NB: I was on the wiki page for Lead to read about all the fun things it does to your body and end up on this page. I don't know if I would have noticed anything off about this article without this note at the top, but something sure seems off about it. Either that, or scientists really did come up with this theory in 2025.
If this violates rule #6 too hard I'll remove this post.
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I definitely heard about this kind of thing earlier than 2025. It's pretty well-known that the Romans were fond of lead items, including lead-sweetened wine. Seems unlikely that it significantly impacted the decline of the empire, but it probably didn't help, either.
What tripped me up was that out of 17 sources, 11 are dated 2025. Granted, I don't usually look closely at the sources section, but this spread feels unusual. Also the user seems to be using LLMs not just for this one page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Daniel_Mizen
Fuck. Ever read Anathem by Neal Stephenson? They can't use the internet anymore because it's so rife with misinformation created by AI (they used a different term in the book iirc) that it is inherently useless.
I'm not a huge reader so no, I haven't, but it sure does sound interesting. As long as we have shitposts tho I think the internet is not yet prone to becoming entirely useless, at least for now.
Yeah, not yet; hopefly not ever. In the book the tech was eventually used by governments to rewrite everything on the web to be in line with their propaganda so anything posted would be rowlitten multiple times by bots.
Pretty much right out of 1984.
Are they poisonous?
Ok but if this thing happened right now that would be pretty good for us actually. If LLMs rewrite everything, this only leaves LLM output as training data for the next LLMs, leading to relatively fast model collapse, and basically popping the AI bubble with TNT.
And lo, the scholars wept for finally it was over.
... yeah that sounds pretty bad.
Lead poisoning probably didn't impact empire in any significant way, also romans were aware that lead is poisonous. Insane instability of later empire might have much bigger impact on fall of western empire.
I went to look for a new video and didn't see it. It's on the Extra's channel. Here's a link if anyone wants some free range chaos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxl8PgXbFd0
That’s the first video where I’ve seen the camera guy nope out (and I don’t blame him). I swear to god half of chemistry YouTube is going to drop dead 30 years early.
That wasn't the camera guy. It was Tom from "Explosion&Fire" / "Extraction&Ire" who is a pretty cool chemostry youtuber from australia. I think it was a bit or he had something different to do, because he does some pretty sketchy stuff on his own channel sometimes
Are you shitting me?? Sometimes I doubt that I’m face blind and then stuff like this happens. I missed the bit because I didn’t recognize him, lol.
(They still both give me gray hairs!)
halfway through the video they do use a body double for Tom
NileRed got something about lead out? I thought the latest was air booze.
It's on his NileLead channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxl8PgXbFd0
Ah yes! Just watched, incredibly stupid things happen (seriously, don't burn random things without knowing what they are)
How else am I sposed to get high doe? /s
Fully believed I was about to discover his NileLead channel when I clicked this link