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Contradicting Russian anti-Ukraine narratives on Lemmy.ml is bigotry (rule 1) and a 3 month site ban according to Dessalines, head Lemmy.ml admin, lead Lemmy dev

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sh.itjust.works

I was banned from lemmy.ml outright for asking if someone that was responding to me with obvious Russian propaganda was a Russian, because he was spouting obvious russian propaganda, I thought maybe he was and was being fed that propaganda.

I was banned for being racist by asking if someone was a Russian. Which is a nationality not a race.

And yes, I was also pointing to facts that where contradicting their made up stories about Nato etc.

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

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Barging in on this week old thread. Had Dessalines also accusing me of "racism" after commenting "found the russian" on what was obvious pro-russian propaganda.

anyway, fuck the tankie developers. fuck Dessalines.

edit: typo

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fakereply
sh.itjust.works

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

Yes, but they don't even get paid. Schmucks.

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Hanrahanreply
slrpnk.net

It seems to me that lemmy.ml is a Russian misinformation outlet.

yes but they have good communities like their Linux and privacy communities etc, i ignore their weird pro fascist stance

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Clutterreply
sh.itjust.works

No. We have a saying: When you are at a table with 10 people, and one of them is a Nazi. There are 10 Nazi's at that table.

There is no "neutral" in this case.

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lemmy.world

If there's anything the Right and the Left agree on, it's that the worst thing you can ever do is be Neutral.

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Clutterreply
sh.itjust.works

There is no Left vs Right when it comes to Fascism. There is only the rich and the rest.

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Fascist movements have no allies, rich or poor. It's all about how useful and trusted you are by the paranoid maniac in charge.

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jimmy90reply
lemmy.world

if scientologists made open source software would you use it?

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That, my friend, is actually an awesome question. I have the same question about Harry Potter and the biggot know as Rowling, or Hugh Jackman and his Trump and Murdock friends, Michael Jackson and pedophilia, Eric Clapton and his racism, etc, etc.

Can we / should we, separate the art from the creator?

I think we must. Not a single person alive is "purely good or purely evil" in all things (?)...

We do not turn a blind eye, we can acknowledge that Hitler was a human being and also evil. Same with Netanyahu and Trump. I will acknowledge they probably did some good in this world (perhaps only privately for their own people), but that does not mean we look away from their evil and vilify them for it.

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It depends on what the software does, and how well reviewed it was. A lot of cases I'd say yes, but if it was (as an example) a personal therapist app I'd be pretty suspicious of it.

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They get so mad over there when you remind them that Russians would stop dying if Putin would pull his army out of Ukraine's territory, including Crimea.

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A 3-day "operation" getting stretched out into a 4-year-war is clearly a winning strategy you guyse

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Yogthos is such a stupid person I literally can't believe how anyone takes them seriously. He's been saying this for genuinely YEARS

He's like those trump supporters waiting for "the kraken" with that whole Sydney Powell shit. I remember a guy who had fuck Joe Biden on his roof in Christmas lights and then had a sign in his yard that said "RELEASE THE KRAKEN"

6 years later the kraken sign is down and you can still see the outline of fuck Joe Biden on his roof from where the sun and rain wore on the more exposed parts.

Fucking loser that guy is.

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Don't even bother they're brainwashed and determined to stay that way. I'm sure there are legitimate Russian propagandists among them, but most of them are poor deluded souls.

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AGPL license, nothing stopping anyone from forking it anytime.

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I'm using the thunder app, how do I shut them out? I'm getting rather sick of their garbage too.

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pawb.social

Eh, I'm kind of willing to give them this one. The "Your orcishness is showing" line is pretty close to bigotry.

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lemmy.zip

'> complains about being banned for bigotry

'> claims that an entire nationality is worse than a fantasy shorthand for inherently and irredeemably evil species

I think the mods got it right dude.

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lemmy.cafe

Maybe that entire nationality shouldn't exhibit exclusively traits of an inherently and irredeemably evil species.

MLs are banning everyone who disagrees with their narrative regardless of rules, and you know it.

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feddit.org

Don't collectively condemn Russians just because their government and most of their boomers suck.

Like there are a lot of Russians who hate the current situation. But Russia is at a point that speaking out means prison.

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lemmy.cafe

My life is literally at risk just by me living and working in Ukraine. Forgive me if I don't have much sympathy for russians living their lives safely and funding the terrorism with their taxes.

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feddit.org

You think many Russians voluntarily joined the military? A lot of them were forced to join the military and there are many political prisoners who protested Putin who were sent to their deaths because they were forced into the military.

Holy crap dude.

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Way to move the goalposts. I'm talking about the majority of the population that doesn't give a shit about Ukraine or anything outside of their cozy little lives. The ones that only say something when it personally inconveniences them. The ones that watch their husbands, brothers and sons get killed in a senseless war and move on with their lives, content with the scraps putin throws them.

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lemmy.zip

Maybe, maybe not, but in this case you are pretty clearly breaking their rules about no bigotry, and then doubling down on it repeatedly.

So once again, they definitely got it right this time.

I'd also point out that this type of rhetoric is an excellent way to make Russian propaganda against the west seem accurate.

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lemmy.cafe

Me? That's not even my post, my guy. Though I agree with OP. Anyone who directly or indirectly supports the terrorist nation (including by inaction) more than deserves to be called an orc and worse.

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lemmy.zip

Directly and indirectly, including through inaction, huh? So pretty much every baby in the world is a literal manifestation of evil or worse.

I rarely take claims of russophobia seriously. You sir are a russophobe.

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You sir must be a really good farmer with how quickly you build strawmen.

You instantly zero in on anything you can stretch into "bigotry" that is directed against russia but ignore blatant systemic bigotry in support of them. If pointing that out makes me a russophobe, then I'm clearly not trying hard enough.

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lemmy.world

Oh thanks. I'd blocked a lot of communities from .ml manually, but didn't ever notice that instance block option down there.

If only the other groups of rabid culty nuts on Lemmy were so centrally located. :/

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