When I first saw Subaru impresa back in 1998 I was a child, but I could see how special the car was. In fact, during late 90s and 2000s we had some very special cars coming out of rally.
When I see a rally car, I see a Lancer careening through a missed curve at high speed and flying off into the forest only to get wraped around several innocent trees.
Only the best navigators could hold the map quest printout up at dashboard height with one hand and simultaneously watch the road signs, the road, and the turn by turn instructions simultaneously. Many failed and simply drove off the face of the earth.
Oh God that anxiety when the printed directions tell you to turn right in 3.5 miles, and you feel like you've gone about 5 but you're not sure, and maybe that slight split in the road counted as a right turn, and now you should be moving on to the next step but you're not quite sure.....
No argument there. I'm very glad to have had GPS whenever I've been on a boat/ship, but if I absolutely had to, the BSA taught me to use a compass and astrolabe with a current OSRS chart.
Looks like the good old "Didn't took a right at the crossroads and continued forward instead and then kept on insisting 'I know the way'" driving problem.
Pretty sure you can still take Rt 13 and Rt 20 most of the way. Going through each town and hitting lights will add some time, sure, but we're talking an hour, maybe 90 minutes. Odysseus has no excuse.
Everyone's talking about driving... but you actually can take a boat from Troy to Ithaca. Just take the Erie Canal west until you reach Montezuma, at the confluence proceed to the Cayuga-Seneca Canal, and continue south through Cayuga Lake, and at the end you'll reach Ithaca.
Easy enough and only takes a couple days at the most. I have no idea why they needed to make some movie about this.
The problem is they turned onto Chrysler Ave instead of hitting 890 off crosstown and once you get on Chrysler Ave it's impossible to get off and then you're just stuck at Schenectady.
If you're making this arduous journey, I strongly recommend stopping by the Hi-way Dairy Bar in Candor on 96B. Grab a Berry Twist, you won't be disappointed.
It's a hell of a lot better than it used to be. I remember being scared to be there in the '90s. They've put a lot of money into cleaning up downtown and the waterfront. Crime has plummeted through the floor. New construction and new restaurants have moved in. These days, it's nearly the hipster Brooklyn scene of the Capital Region.
If you had to push a Greek penteconter the whole way down that freeway, with occasional side trips for special requests, it might take you a long time too.
I noticed when he finally stepped back on his land again, he brought milk, because he told Telemachus back then that he was stepping out to get some milk. /s
I've been through booth, Overall nothing I'd ever plan a trip specifically for, but everyone has their own interests.
Ithaca - the town itself; no. There's a lot of cool hiking trails, and some water falls/scenic views nearby if you're into that. Cornell University is also there, if you like exploring old architecture there's some neat buildings.
Troy also no, unless you want to visit a town that looks like it hasn't changed since 1980. It is right next to Albany, the state capitol, so there's that.
Neither are well known enough that I, a resident of Texas, knows anything remarkable about them. I've heard if Ithaca New York, never heard of Troy.
There are things to do and see in any city or town in America, but I expect that kind of travel is an aquired taste.
(By comparison: the small towns around my city boast things like: peanut festival, strawberry festival, highland games. I expect you could find similar events in Ithaca or Troy, but you would need to enjoy that kind of 'state fair' atmosphere. These are things I would drive an hour for but wouldn't travel out of state unless I was there incedentally already)
Troy is part of the Tri-city Area of Albany/ Schenectady/ Troy, so it is really part of the State Capital. If you are into state capitals, which generally have a mild historical interest, then there you are.
Ithaca is just another small central NY city. Central NY is one of the most beautiful parts of America to drive through, with old stone houses and rock walls dividing farm fields. It's not really known for some big historical event or location, it's just one of those old historical areas where you hit the antique stores, and have meals at quaint little cafes, and stay at a B&B somewhere.
Yeah, it's a nice region, if you aren't expecting wild Disney like stuff. Lots of history, antiques, scenery, quaintness. Its a great romantic couples weekend trip, you'll get some something-something.
I went to school in the fingerlakes.
I like Ithaca a lot. Its this town sitting on top of a mountain surrounded by other mountains. It feels serene and surreal to be there. I think the food is good and the locals really seem to care about their town. Idk about Troy. Most people who live there don't seem to love it when you ask them about it, but my fav video game shops is there. It's really small, but the town itself is cute.
If you're ever going to the area as a tourist, id recommend the fingerlakes wine trail. Angry Orchard hard cider is also produced around there. The wine trail is most popular in the fall and its so worth it. My favorite winery is Montezuma and their tasting comes with a wine glass! (And they make fudge and its soooo good).
Summer time all the creamerys open and the fun ice cream flavors and wines slushes are such a treat.
If I ever have money, I'd love to buy a home in Skaneateles off of the water and just live the rest of my days in peace.
Long story short, I like the area so much id say its worth a visit.
Ithaca is sort of a charming college town, a lot of art/nature/hippy vibes. If you had to be in central ny for some reason it wouldn't be a bad place to spend some time. I would not make a special trip for it tho.
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Reminds me of this
I am going to downboat you because I'm a Subaru fan not because you are incorrect in your choice of vehicle.
(I actually upboated you)
When I first saw Subaru impresa back in 1998 I was a child, but I could see how special the car was. In fact, during late 90s and 2000s we had some very special cars coming out of rally.
Most movies would end faster if the main character was driving a Lancer.
The exorcist would be a VERY different movie though...
The new testament
Ok I'll throw in mine too, SHERP!
This is actually the correct answer. The journey to and within Mordor would be nothing for a SHERP!!
"Sam, you're breaking the car!"
I don't know not sure there is usable road? And this isn't quiet the nazgul would be waiting for them and an ambush would be easy to set up.
One does not simply drive into Mordor...oh hell you have an Evo? Go on you're good
Lol. Reminds me of Moses wondering the desert for 40 years to go like 400 miles.
When I see a rally car, I see a Lancer careening through a missed curve at high speed and flying off into the forest only to get wraped around several innocent trees.
Idk, maybe one of those Dakar cars could take gnarlier shortcuts
The Odyssey happened a long time ago. Before Google Maps. Those were the MapQuest days so things weren't so accurate and they probably got lost
You'd need to print them out for reference on the journey.
Look at Mr. Moneybags with a printer.
My parents would make me copy down directions by hand.
and even then it was early MapQuest days and I'm sure Odysseus "knew a shortcut".
Only the best navigators could hold the map quest printout up at dashboard height with one hand and simultaneously watch the road signs, the road, and the turn by turn instructions simultaneously. Many failed and simply drove off the face of the earth.
Oh God that anxiety when the printed directions tell you to turn right in 3.5 miles, and you feel like you've gone about 5 but you're not sure, and maybe that slight split in the road counted as a right turn, and now you should be moving on to the next step but you're not quite sure.....
I used to have to do food deliveries in a van this way. Just thinking about this still elevates my heart rate.
Also taking a boat overland takes forever, they don't sail well on land
Troy was under flash flood warning yesterday, so I probably should have had a boat. It was very wet.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PQcdE14Z7A4WwdVk6?g_st=ac
Were they stupid?
No, they were just drawing it out for the Odysseus Cinematic Universe.
They took a boat, clearly a detour
They used Bing maps.
That explains it. No direct water route. The Erie canal hadn't been dug yet.
Wait. France is the land of the dead?
Always was.
Land of the dead
Empire of the deadl
This guy was so bad at sailing, it's astounding.
I mean, he was a victim of the wrath of Poseidon, not that much you can do about that when at sea.
True, that's a fair point.
Which sort of paints Poseidon as incompetent. You'd imagine that the God of the sea would be able to reliably kill people at sea.
Sounds intentional to have Odysseus suffer and long for home, instead of killing him off quickly. The gods want to be entertained as well.
Then why not sink his ship five minutes from his home?
Poseidon was pissed off, not a complete asshole. Like not 100% anus - a bit less.
Zeus wouldn't let him. Odysseus was fated to return home eventually.
599/600 isn't a terrible performance.
Seems to be decent at the sailing part. Navigation doesn't seem to be even a minor part of his bailiwick
Sailing with no navigation skills is a risky endeavour, as he amply demonstrated.
No argument there. I'm very glad to have had GPS whenever I've been on a boat/ship, but if I absolutely had to, the BSA taught me to use a compass and astrolabe with a current OSRS chart.
Looks like the good old "Didn't took a right at the crossroads and continued forward instead and then kept on insisting 'I know the way'" driving problem.
Most of the bad stuff happened in Italy
That's... a creative attempt at the traveling salesman problem.
Honda Odyssey is a good choice for that type of trip, but I'm more partial to a Crystler Pacifica, my self.
I prefer the Christler Pacifica, personally
I have one of those I love that thing
Yeah, but once you factor in traffic ...
Just off the upper left of the map there’s Greece, NY. It’s a Rochester suburb. Just throwing that out there.
Looks like Rome is right there too.
Also Syracuse. And Marathon is in the map area but not labeled at this zoom.
If there's a new York, why not also a new Troy?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=41.876111&mlon=-86.549722&zoom=12#map=16%2F41.87637%2F-86.54866
Turn off highways and watch what happens.
Pretty sure you can still take Rt 13 and Rt 20 most of the way. Going through each town and hitting lights will add some time, sure, but we're talking an hour, maybe 90 minutes. Odysseus has no excuse.
I did it by accident. It was interesting.
20 goes coast to coast still i think
Almost like he shouldn't have pissed off Poseidon.....
Everyone's talking about driving... but you actually can take a boat from Troy to Ithaca. Just take the Erie Canal west until you reach Montezuma, at the confluence proceed to the Cayuga-Seneca Canal, and continue south through Cayuga Lake, and at the end you'll reach Ithaca.
Easy enough and only takes a couple days at the most. I have no idea why they needed to make some movie about this.
It was back in the days before cars
Also probably not in New York
Probably? Do you have proof it wasn't?
New Amsterdam?
That was the whole point, wasn’t it?
Most of that time was just hanging out on an island not traveling
Scranton doesn’t seem to be on the route. If they’d take a detour like in the original though…
Come on, how can you not make that detour...
Don't eat the lotuses in Schenectady.
The problem is they turned onto Chrysler Ave instead of hitting 890 off crosstown and once you get on Chrysler Ave it's impossible to get off and then you're just stuck at Schenectady.
Hi neighbor! I love seeing other locals on lemmy.
Still accurate if you’re in the Russian army
If you're making this arduous journey, I strongly recommend stopping by the Hi-way Dairy Bar in Candor on 96B. Grab a Berry Twist, you won't be disappointed.
Troy NY is a fucking psychotic place
It's a hell of a lot better than it used to be. I remember being scared to be there in the '90s. They've put a lot of money into cleaning up downtown and the waterfront. Crime has plummeted through the floor. New construction and new restaurants have moved in. These days, it's nearly the hipster Brooklyn scene of the Capital Region.
That’s good to hear, I think around 2005 was my last experience there. Hope they figure it out!
That's with a car, is it's totally different.
If you had to push a Greek penteconter the whole way down that freeway, with occasional side trips for special requests, it might take you a long time too.
It's easy to lose track of time when you're having fun.
(Dragon made a mistake and edited her comment)Ohio's is 35 mins
Ok, now show me the trip estimate for making that trip in a big boat…
I noticed when he finally stepped back on his land again, he brought milk, because he told Telemachus back then that he was stepping out to get some milk. /s
That's not the most unrealistic part, unfortunately...
As I probably will never see either: are any of the places on the map, especially itaka and troy (us) worth a visit?
I've been through booth, Overall nothing I'd ever plan a trip specifically for, but everyone has their own interests.
Ithaca - the town itself; no. There's a lot of cool hiking trails, and some water falls/scenic views nearby if you're into that. Cornell University is also there, if you like exploring old architecture there's some neat buildings.
Troy also no, unless you want to visit a town that looks like it hasn't changed since 1980. It is right next to Albany, the state capitol, so there's that.
If you don't get much fall foliage that drive can be majestic in autumn. Otherwise maybe
Neither are well known enough that I, a resident of Texas, knows anything remarkable about them. I've heard if Ithaca New York, never heard of Troy.
There are things to do and see in any city or town in America, but I expect that kind of travel is an aquired taste.
(By comparison: the small towns around my city boast things like: peanut festival, strawberry festival, highland games. I expect you could find similar events in Ithaca or Troy, but you would need to enjoy that kind of 'state fair' atmosphere. These are things I would drive an hour for but wouldn't travel out of state unless I was there incedentally already)
I grew up in that area as a kid.
Troy is part of the Tri-city Area of Albany/ Schenectady/ Troy, so it is really part of the State Capital. If you are into state capitals, which generally have a mild historical interest, then there you are.
Ithaca is just another small central NY city. Central NY is one of the most beautiful parts of America to drive through, with old stone houses and rock walls dividing farm fields. It's not really known for some big historical event or location, it's just one of those old historical areas where you hit the antique stores, and have meals at quaint little cafes, and stay at a B&B somewhere.
So, delightful for "getting away" and being somewhere pretty? Sounds wonderful.
Yeah, it's a nice region, if you aren't expecting wild Disney like stuff. Lots of history, antiques, scenery, quaintness. Its a great romantic couples weekend trip, you'll get some something-something.
I went to school in the fingerlakes. I like Ithaca a lot. Its this town sitting on top of a mountain surrounded by other mountains. It feels serene and surreal to be there. I think the food is good and the locals really seem to care about their town. Idk about Troy. Most people who live there don't seem to love it when you ask them about it, but my fav video game shops is there. It's really small, but the town itself is cute. If you're ever going to the area as a tourist, id recommend the fingerlakes wine trail. Angry Orchard hard cider is also produced around there. The wine trail is most popular in the fall and its so worth it. My favorite winery is Montezuma and their tasting comes with a wine glass! (And they make fudge and its soooo good). Summer time all the creamerys open and the fun ice cream flavors and wines slushes are such a treat. If I ever have money, I'd love to buy a home in Skaneateles off of the water and just live the rest of my days in peace.
Long story short, I like the area so much id say its worth a visit.
Ithaca is sort of a charming college town, a lot of art/nature/hippy vibes. If you had to be in central ny for some reason it wouldn't be a bad place to spend some time. I would not make a special trip for it tho.
Now you try rowing a boat on the highway!
It's a "fast food" version of the Odyssey compared to the original Michelin-starred meal.
Don't do it during fall colors or you'll be going 25 down one-lane roads.
Rome and Syracuse causally chilling in there...
Took a quick detour for a garbage plate i see