This is horrible! No one should definitely do this!
I glad the word is getting out, finally we can see for ourselves exactly how this crime is committed so we know what not to do in the future. Knowledge is power.
Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work.
@modus@SirSamuel In dire straits, I once wrapped duct tape around one end of a hacksaw blade as a handle and used that to cut the copper pipe. I am not a plumber.
These things are a pain to use. Especially the cheap ones require more force than you'd expect and occasionally get stuck. They make a good clean cut but it's so slow and awkward that if you were wanting to do vandalism they're impractical relative to a reciprocating saw or better yet portable band saw.
I also wouldn't underestimate the power of spray paint, even though it's simple to fix it's still expensive when the contract specifics all the maintenance must be done by flock themselves.
Nah, they wouldn't bother repairing the tube regardless of how it's cut. If they did and the repair broke, hitting someone, they'd have to take the liability. For a company with their funding, a length of ally tube and the cost to dig it into the ground is fuck all.
edit to add: but multiplied by hundreds of them being cut down, it's not not fuck all. and it's funny.
The people taking them dawn are heroes and criminals. "Criminal" just means they're not aligned with the law, not that they're in some way immoral. In a country as corrupt as this, it's a title to be worn proudly.
Ohh, I thought the headline meant members of organized crime were concerned about the increased surveillance, so they were making a concerted effort to reduce the network coverage
He literally points out that the recip is quieter, and he's got it chopped in seconds, so the fractions of such that a grinder'd offer are negligible. If anything, I'm curious what the comparative battery-life is between a reciprocating saw & angle grinder, but that's even more pedantic, honestly. 🤷🏼♂️
Actually, it would be extremely lucrative if flock was the people cutting down the cameras, wiping them, and selling them back to the user/municipality at the replacement cost stated in the contract, and using Antifa as a cover.
If you are an anti-antifa American who loves how much the government surveils us all and violates our constitutional rights, then you would never do anything like this.
Right, why didn't this guy film himself cutting down a real flock in his video about how to protect your identity that he posted to his public account. /s
I’ve seen this guy online before, he’s building a homestead out in the middle of the desert in like Arizona or something. No way he’d risk his account/income, I’m sure he checked with a lawyer before posting this
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This is horrible! No one should definitely do this!
I glad the word is getting out, finally we can see for ourselves exactly how this crime is committed so we know what not to do in the future. Knowledge is power.
Much quieter
And slower. Great for plumbing, not so much a 3" aluminum post with 1/4" walls
But hey, I might be wrong. 30yrs in the trades, but I've never tried cutting down an aluminum post with a pipe cutter
Also if the method varies from person to person, or one person uses a unique method, it's easier to get multiple vandalism charges to stick
It's only aluminium, you could probably chew through it if you wanted
wet the post with gallium and put a piece of duct tape over it, i'll fall over in an hour. no tools
Where would get Gallium? I saw a youtubr video of some dude (mark something, I think) and he did this to aluminium cans. Always wanted to try that.
Ahh, that's not the hard part; the hard part is how to get gallium without being noticed.
Hey, totally unrelated, but how does one cut copper pipes mounted close to the wall?
There's a tool that attaches to your drill or impact driver. Kinda expensive, but when you NEED it, it's worth every penny.
So throw money at it. Got it. ;) Thanks.
Its a big part of why plumbers cost money. Like the auto shop guys, a lot of money gets spent on tools that get used maybe once or twice a year, sometimes less. But you must own them to do the work.
"Oscillating cutters" are good for close cuts in tight spaces.
Cool. I saw those at the store when buying drill bits. Didn't know what they were. Thanks.
Oh, I should clarify, "the trades" isn't exclusively plumbing. I can sweat pipes and lay out a house but I'm no expert
That being said I always used a little stubby cutter for pipes close to walls
There's other designs, including ratcheting ones that look so much easier than what I used
@modus @SirSamuel In dire straits, I once wrapped duct tape around one end of a hacksaw blade as a handle and used that to cut the copper pipe. I am not a plumber.
Thanks. I was thinking hacksaw too. Not even sure what I'm doing yet so I'm probably going to stare at it for a few more years.
Oscillating saw with a semicircle blade and a piece of paneling behind the pipe in case you get squirrelly with it
These things are a pain to use. Especially the cheap ones require more force than you'd expect and occasionally get stuck. They make a good clean cut but it's so slow and awkward that if you were wanting to do vandalism they're impractical relative to a reciprocating saw or better yet portable band saw.
I also wouldn't underestimate the power of spray paint, even though it's simple to fix it's still expensive when the contract specifics all the maintenance must be done by flock themselves.
Would a straight cut be easier to add a union joint to and thus make the cost of repair slightly lower?
I guess it would depend on priorities
Nah, they wouldn't bother repairing the tube regardless of how it's cut. If they did and the repair broke, hitting someone, they'd have to take the liability. For a company with their funding, a length of ally tube and the cost to dig it into the ground is fuck all.
edit to add: but multiplied by hundreds of them being cut down, it's not not fuck all. and it's funny.
The people taking down flock cameras are heroes not criminals.
I think its the funny way of saying how its done without condoning it publicly.
If you can’t taste the sarcasm in this video the tism is strong in you ❤️
The people taking them dawn are heroes and criminals. "Criminal" just means they're not aligned with the law, not that they're in some way immoral. In a country as corrupt as this, it's a title to be worn proudly.
Criminals ✋
Privacy enthusiasts ✅
Ohh, I thought the headline meant members of organized crime were concerned about the increased surveillance, so they were making a concerted effort to reduce the network coverage
Even smaller criminal orgs can seem heroic, momentarily, when acting against a larger, more pervasive and communal threat.☝🏼
And all the onlookers suddenly become Skyrim guards... must have been the wind
Next thing you know we’ll have a criminal president!
I thought the criminals are the ones putting those things up there?
Weird.
I hate both short form and vertical videos, but in this case I'll make an exception.
If this is what need to get youth to act. I all for it.
*Heroes not Criminals
So criminals are doing it the same way as non-criminals?
He was the punkest motherfucker I ever did see
Aw, hell, he's even more punk than me!
Edit: kerning
Aren't the criminals the one's putting up the cameras? The heroes are actually the ones taking them down.
Damn, Septic Sam won out, rip Sean
Flock cameras are probably less than 1% of the total surveillance state (that needs to be dismantled)
Start with the low hanging fruits.
Every little bit counts.
Is a criminal to a criminal really a hero? Does a double negative become a positive? I think so.
I'm so glad this guy told me exactly what to avoid
*liberators
Criminals is the wrong word for soldiers of decency.
Good thing I now know what to be aware of.
✋ Criminals
👉 Concerned Citizens
Patriots.
criminals.A grinder will cut through a steel pole like that so much faster than a recip.
He literally points out that the recip is quieter, and he's got it chopped in seconds, so the fractions of such that a grinder'd offer are negligible. If anything, I'm curious what the comparative battery-life is between a reciprocating saw & angle grinder, but that's even more pedantic, honestly. 🤷🏼♂️
A carbide saw blade is even faster. Just get a battery powered saw meant for them. They spin at a different speed from the wood cutting saws.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ALH0t1uizEE
A 3d printed 22LR pistol would be faster. Print a suppressor too.
How do you know they're criminals?
I thought flock wasn't taking down the cameras?
Actually, it would be extremely lucrative if flock was the people cutting down the cameras, wiping them, and selling them back to the user/municipality at the replacement cost stated in the contract, and using Antifa as a cover.
Revolutionary hero**
Not a criminal.
It's way easier just take a hammer, smash the lens, or spray paint the lens and then remove only the camera
remove the battery
take it somewhere thats NOT your home, and press the button on the back enough times, and you enable adb
now you have a flock pc, which you can customize to remove the spyware through adb and do anything u want
Idk if that's easier, most flock cameras are up pretty high.
oh, I just took the one in the video as an example, srry
you could do this after cutting the pole too
Just put a bag or bucket over it, won't stop the RF gathering stuff, but cheap and quick
And makes it easier for others to finish the job
Only antifa criminals would do this.
If you are an anti-antifa American who loves how much the government surveils us all and violates our constitutional rights, then you would never do anything like this.
What's wrong with his face?
Nothing.
... too handsome?
I can’t take this person seriously. So thirsty for attention.
Right, why didn't this guy film himself cutting down a real flock in his video about how to protect your identity that he posted to his public account. /s
I’ve seen this guy online before, he’s building a homestead out in the middle of the desert in like Arizona or something. No way he’d risk his account/income, I’m sure he checked with a lawyer before posting this
So would I, were I publicly giving out advice for getting away with illegal activity. Doesn't undermine the message though, imo.
Don't make the cops' jobs easier.
Yep, he's just a journalist 😉